Newbie s-log and LUT for FS5 at DVinfo.net

Alfred Okocha · February 23rd, 2016, 05:23 AM

Hi there!

The FS5 is the first camera I own that shoots s-log and though I've read much about it I haven't really used it in a live situation yet.
Most of my work is broadcast with short deadlines so I don't have time to colorgrade a lot, BUT, if there is a quick LUT that could be applied so that I could take advantage of the full 14 stops and not having blown out skies for example it would be lovely.

My FS5 goes automatically to WB 3200 when i go to PP7 and PP8. Is there a way of changing that? (Or does it not even matter??)

When I apply the FCP X log processing Sony S-log2 and 3 to my footage, it looks... really bad... Is there more LUTS that you can apply to FCP somehow or do you have to use a different software? (Looks bad in part because WB is way wrong...)

Lots of stupid questions here I'm sure but I could really use some help to take my first insecure steps on the S-log path...

Any input is very welcome!

Thank you!

Doug Jensen · February 23rd, 2016, 04:59 PM

If you are on tight deadlines and don't have time (or the interest) in color grading properly with a program such as Resolve, the best thing you can do is not use S-LOG at all. You'll be much better off going with the camera's other gamma curves and complimentary paint menus settings to create a pleasing image right out of the camera with no messing around in post. In other words, you can't use S-LOG casually and expect to get great results.

Alfred Okocha · February 24th, 2016, 12:40 AM

Ok, that's what i suspected. Thanks Doug.

FCP X is not enough to do decent color grading?

Doug Jensen · February 24th, 2016, 06:34 AM

FCPX is not good enough for S-LOG grading. And neither is Premiere. Proper grading of S-LOG and Sony RAW requires a dedicated grading tool such as Resolve, Baselight, etc.

In fact, I would say that anything you can do with S-LOG in FCPX -- you could have just done it in-camera with a non-S-LOG gamma and then not had to do any grading at all. So what's the point of shooting S-LOG if you're only going to be able to make it look like normal video in the end anyway (and possibly a lot worse)? Make life easier for yourself and just use the other gammas.

I'm sure some people will jump on here to disagree with me, but that's my opinion from a lot of experience with S-LOG and speaking to other people who's opinions I respect.

February 23rd, 2016, 05:23 AM	#1
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	Newbie s-log and LUT for FS5 Hi there! The FS5 is the first camera I own that shoots s-log and though I've read much about it I haven't really used it in a live situation yet. Most of my work is broadcast with short deadlines so I don't have time to colorgrade a lot, BUT, if there is a quick LUT that could be applied so that I could take advantage of the full 14 stops and not having blown out skies for example it would be lovely. My FS5 goes automatically to WB 3200 when i go to PP7 and PP8. Is there a way of changing that? (Or does it not even matter??) When I apply the FCP X log processing Sony S-log2 and 3 to my footage, it looks... really bad... Is there more LUTS that you can apply to FCP somehow or do you have to use a different software? (Looks bad in part because WB is way wrong...) Lots of stupid questions here I'm sure but I could really use some help to take my first insecure steps on the S-log path... Any input is very welcome! Thank you!

February 23rd, 2016, 04:59 PM	#2
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,415	Re: Newbie s-log and LUT for FS5 If you are on tight deadlines and don't have time (or the interest) in color grading properly with a program such as Resolve, the best thing you can do is not use S-LOG at all. You'll be much better off going with the camera's other gamma curves and complimentary paint menus settings to create a pleasing image right out of the camera with no messing around in post. In other words, you can't use S-LOG casually and expect to get great results. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

February 24th, 2016, 12:40 AM	#3
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	Re: Newbie s-log and LUT for FS5 Ok, that's what i suspected. Thanks Doug. FCP X is not enough to do decent color grading?

February 24th, 2016, 06:34 AM	#4
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,415	Re: Newbie s-log and LUT for FS5 FCPX is not good enough for S-LOG grading. And neither is Premiere. Proper grading of S-LOG and Sony RAW requires a dedicated grading tool such as Resolve, Baselight, etc. In fact, I would say that anything you can do with S-LOG in FCPX -- you could have just done it in-camera with a non-S-LOG gamma and then not had to do any grading at all. So what's the point of shooting S-LOG if you're only going to be able to make it look like normal video in the end anyway (and possibly a lot worse)? Make life easier for yourself and just use the other gammas. I'm sure some people will jump on here to disagree with me, but that's my opinion from a lot of experience with S-LOG and speaking to other people who's opinions I respect. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools Last edited by Doug Jensen; February 24th, 2016 at 11:05 AM. Reason: typo