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Josh Bass · April 17th, 2003, 03:53 PM

I just did a paid gig, and the guy I worked for wants an invoice with several things on it, including my social security number. Is this normal practice? Isn't your social one of those things people can use to do bad things to yoU?

Harry Settle · April 17th, 2003, 04:13 PM

No, no, no, no! Don't do it! Uh UH! Ixnay! Fuggiddaboutit.

Not a good idea.

Chris Hurd · April 17th, 2003, 04:25 PM

Yes, you do need to include it, for tax purposes. They need either an EID (employer identification number) or your SSN. If you're in business for yourself, this will be a common practice. Whoever hired you will need to issue a Form 1099 to the IRS which identifies you as a receiver of their money, usually marked as "non-employee compensation" or "other income." You'll get a copy of it at the end of the year for your own tax purposes, but unless your business has a federal ID number, then you'll need to use your SSN instead. It's nothing to worry about; I've been doing it this way myself for years. Generally this is done any time an amount over $1000 changes hands as in paid gigs like this. Hope this helps,

Jeff Donald · April 17th, 2003, 04:28 PM

It think a lot of businesses have tighten up. I get 1099ed on almost any amount these days. Some companies have me invoice my labor separate from my expenses. So, I might submit an invoice for mileage and they 1099 me for $10.

Mark Argerake · April 18th, 2003, 08:49 AM

Yup - It's a tax thing. And like Jeff said any amout can be 1099'd. Whenever I contract anyone to do anything, they get 1099'd.

Josh Bass · April 18th, 2003, 09:15 PM

I've never been 1099d. . .

Chris Hurd · April 18th, 2003, 10:01 PM

If they're asking for your SSN, then you're about to be 1099'ed. Nothing to fear. In fact you'll have a hard time getting paid without it.

John Heskett · April 19th, 2003, 07:36 AM

I even got 1099'ed for a small job I did for an order of nuns. So is life.

Richard Alvarez · April 19th, 2003, 07:56 AM

Getting an EIN (Employers Identification Number) is part of being a business. Take it seriously, and you get treated seriously. It's a nine-digit number, like a SS# only it's divided differently.

Instead of 000 -12 -3456
It's 00-0000123

If you are dealing with professional businesses, they will expect your SS# or aTIN/EIN

Harry Settle · April 19th, 2003, 08:31 AM

The SSN thing has been a source of aggravation to me for years. While "they" are telling you to safeguard your SSN with your life, at the same time "they" keep demanding your SSN for everything.

I know as a Sole-propietor you don't need a federal ID, and can use your SSN instead. However, I have been advised that it may be well worth the hassel to get the fed number. Especially in light of the events going on with identity theft nowadays.

Just my opinion.

Josh Bass · April 19th, 2003, 07:31 PM

Well, if my identity gets stolen, I'll fly to Lousiana (where this guy's company is based) and kick his ass. They won't be able to charge me with assault as I'll have no identity, or they'll come to the conclusion that I kicked my OWN ass, and drop the charges.

April 17th, 2003, 03:53 PM	#1
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Social on invoice? I just did a paid gig, and the guy I worked for wants an invoice with several things on it, including my social security number. Is this normal practice? Isn't your social one of those things people can use to do bad things to yoU? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

April 17th, 2003, 04:13 PM	#2
Harry Settle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bemidji, MN Posts: 276	No, no, no, no! Don't do it! Uh UH! Ixnay! Fuggiddaboutit. Not a good idea. __________________ "DOH"!!!

April 17th, 2003, 04:25 PM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Yes, you do need to include it, for tax purposes. They need either an EID (employer identification number) or your SSN. If you're in business for yourself, this will be a common practice. Whoever hired you will need to issue a Form 1099 to the IRS which identifies you as a receiver of their money, usually marked as "non-employee compensation" or "other income." You'll get a copy of it at the end of the year for your own tax purposes, but unless your business has a federal ID number, then you'll need to use your SSN instead. It's nothing to worry about; I've been doing it this way myself for years. Generally this is done any time an amount over $1000 changes hands as in paid gigs like this. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 17th, 2003, 04:28 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	It think a lot of businesses have tighten up. I get 1099ed on almost any amount these days. Some companies have me invoice my labor separate from my expenses. So, I might submit an invoice for mileage and they 1099 me for $10. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 18th, 2003, 09:15 PM	#6
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	I've never been 1099d. . . __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

April 18th, 2003, 08:49 AM	#5
Mark Argerake Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 227	Yup - It's a tax thing. And like Jeff said any amout can be 1099'd. Whenever I contract anyone to do anything, they get 1099'd.

April 18th, 2003, 10:01 PM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	If they're asking for your SSN, then you're about to be 1099'ed. Nothing to fear. In fact you'll have a hard time getting paid without it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 19th, 2003, 07:36 AM	#8
John Heskett Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Terre Haute Indiana Posts: 181	I even got 1099'ed for a small job I did for an order of nuns. So is life. __________________ Illuminate the Vision

April 19th, 2003, 07:56 AM	#9
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Getting an EIN (Employers Identification Number) is part of being a business. Take it seriously, and you get treated seriously. It's a nine-digit number, like a SS# only it's divided differently. Instead of 000 -12 -3456 It's 00-0000123 If you are dealing with professional businesses, they will expect your SS# or aTIN/EIN

April 19th, 2003, 08:31 AM	#10
Harry Settle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bemidji, MN Posts: 276	The SSN thing has been a source of aggravation to me for years. While "they" are telling you to safeguard your SSN with your life, at the same time "they" keep demanding your SSN for everything. I know as a Sole-propietor you don't need a federal ID, and can use your SSN instead. However, I have been advised that it may be well worth the hassel to get the fed number. Especially in light of the events going on with identity theft nowadays. Just my opinion. __________________ "DOH"!!!

April 19th, 2003, 07:31 PM	#11
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Well, if my identity gets stolen, I'll fly to Lousiana (where this guy's company is based) and kick his ass. They won't be able to charge me with assault as I'll have no identity, or they'll come to the conclusion that I kicked my OWN ass, and drop the charges. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

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