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Mike Berlucchi · September 24th, 2004, 05:47 AM

i need a way to convince my parents to buy me the xl2 for my graduation present. this is all i want to do with my life is become a movie maker and it sucks cause my parents dont support it to much so if anyone has any good selling points or ways to convince them it would be greatly apreciated. thanks.

Jeff Donald · September 24th, 2004, 06:13 AM

Are you graduating from HS or college?

Mike Berlucchi · September 24th, 2004, 06:19 AM

im graduating from hs i just need some things to really get em to think about it.

Rob Lohman · September 24th, 2004, 08:18 AM

$5000 might be a bit much. Why not go for something a bit more
reachable in terms of money? Movie making is not about the
camera but what you can do with the resources you have and
the way you can tell a hopefully interesting story.

You can get second hand XL1S or DVX100a for a much lower
price with almost equal picture quality. Don't get hung on the
latest equipment that is out.

The GL2 is an excellent camera as well and is even cheaper.
Personally I would rather go for that since it is much cheaper
and can deliver almost the same picture as the XL1S.

Why would you need a XL1S or XL2? I doubt you will have the
money to buy extra lenses etc. to warrant such a camera and
I doubt 16x9 is that important to you. The only thing I can think
of is 24p, but a good movie should be able to work in 30p or
24p (in my opinion). The frame (semi progressive) mode on both
the XL1S and GL2 are very good as well!

Good luck!

Michael Wisniewski · September 24th, 2004, 09:03 AM

My movie making partner works for a very rich couple who love her to death. She casually mentioned that she needed to get a new computer so that she could help edit our movies and to show their appreciation, the couple bought her a brand new 17 inch G4 laptop.

The main arguments they gave: They wanted to support the arts and it was also a tax write off.

You might also make a show of good faith, by getting your parents to match every dollar you earn. Maybe they could pay for half?

Jim Giberti · September 24th, 2004, 10:10 AM

<<i need a way to convince my parents to buy me the xl2 for my graduation present. this is all i want to do with my life is become a movie maker and it sucks cause my parents dont support it to much so if anyone has any good selling points or ways to convince them it would be greatly apreciated. thanks.>>

My parents wouldn't even buy me a bicycle, but I'll give it a shot: suggest that you'll take care of them well in their retirement and never let them go to a nursing home.

Mike Berlucchi · September 24th, 2004, 10:22 AM

we have the money no problem they just think its a toy but thanks guys ill try your ideas out

Dylan Couper · September 24th, 2004, 10:35 AM

When I graduated from highschool I got a slap on the back and a "when are you moving out?" and had to work a crappy joe job for two months just to afford a second hand beaten up, single chip hi-8 camera of my own.

Get a job and buy your own camera. It'll actually make you appreaciate it, instead of getting it handed to you by daddy.

Greg Boston · September 24th, 2004, 11:59 AM

I wholeheartedly agree with your advice Dylan. My parents couldn't buy much for me. They said if I wanted it (car, guitars, etc) that I had to earn the money and buy it myself. And you're right in that I take VERY GOOD CARE of my equipment because it comes out of my own pocket.

Mike B,

You should really get a job, save your money and buy a camera. Maybe your parents can help out, but you should not expect them to buy it for you.

=gb=

Federico Dib · September 24th, 2004, 12:07 PM

I agree with Rob, get a GL2 or something less expensive, rent or borrow...

Then go out and make some movies...
Then show them to your parents...
If they are any good (the movies), your folks will know you are not playing around with a "toy".. then you can ask for the BIG ONE...

Unless you have allready shot something cool.. then that should be a good argument.

Also if you show interest in studying something related to filmmaking they might take it more seriously...

If nothing works, then go out and do as most of us... work, work, keep working, save your money, and buy whatever you can..

I sure wish my dad could have givven me something like this...
But don´t worry if you don´t get it right away, it will only hold you back a couple of years...

Spend those years learning, so when you have the BIG TOY you can make the most of out of it.

Mike Berlucchi · September 24th, 2004, 07:05 PM

i do have a job and i think i might just save up but it will take me a while. But i guess ill just save money cause i think im goin to columbia which is super expensive i guess.

Jared Thomas · September 29th, 2004, 11:30 PM

dude mike....i just graduated from high school like....december of '03....i graduated early because of home school stuff...but anyway....im gettin a xl1s tomarrow.....i bought it from a guy off this board....you should go check the classifieds and you could probably find somethin you want for cheap.

i worked forever to buy this camera....my parents pitchedin a grand and it still took me forever to buy this camera..it really will mean more to you if you work for it....

Mike Berlucchi · September 30th, 2004, 05:38 AM

hey jared thanks but hey i saw your sig emagdnim do you rollerblade cause that would be rad since i do to. but ya my parents said they would most likesly buy it for me if i didnt have a party or whatever. so im just savin for my computer. but ya jared you would be even rader than ever

Alfred Okocha · September 30th, 2004, 05:53 AM

Somebody must have changed the forum language. ;-)
I didn't understand a word.. rad..??

Jared Thomas · October 3rd, 2004, 11:26 PM

do i rollerblade?!?!?!?!.......DO I ROLLERBLADE?!?!?!.......the answer to that question would be hells yes i rollerblade.......message me sometime man......rjotoml (screen name)

September 24th, 2004, 05:47 AM	#1
Mike Berlucchi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brighton, Michigan Posts: 47	I Need Help i need a way to convince my parents to buy me the xl2 for my graduation present. this is all i want to do with my life is become a movie maker and it sucks cause my parents dont support it to much so if anyone has any good selling points or ways to convince them it would be greatly apreciated. thanks. __________________ Love Mike http://www.mikeberlucchi.com

September 24th, 2004, 06:13 AM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Are you graduating from HS or college? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 24th, 2004, 06:19 AM	#3
Mike Berlucchi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brighton, Michigan Posts: 47	im graduating from hs i just need some things to really get em to think about it. __________________ Love Mike http://www.mikeberlucchi.com

September 24th, 2004, 08:18 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	$5000 might be a bit much. Why not go for something a bit more reachable in terms of money? Movie making is not about the camera but what you can do with the resources you have and the way you can tell a hopefully interesting story. You can get second hand XL1S or DVX100a for a much lower price with almost equal picture quality. Don't get hung on the latest equipment that is out. The GL2 is an excellent camera as well and is even cheaper. Personally I would rather go for that since it is much cheaper and can deliver almost the same picture as the XL1S. Why would you need a XL1S or XL2? I doubt you will have the money to buy extra lenses etc. to warrant such a camera and I doubt 16x9 is that important to you. The only thing I can think of is 24p, but a good movie should be able to work in 30p or 24p (in my opinion). The frame (semi progressive) mode on both the XL1S and GL2 are very good as well! Good luck! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 24th, 2004, 09:03 AM	#5
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	My movie making partner works for a very rich couple who love her to death. She casually mentioned that she needed to get a new computer so that she could help edit our movies and to show their appreciation, the couple bought her a brand new 17 inch G4 laptop. The main arguments they gave: They wanted to support the arts and it was also a tax write off. You might also make a show of good faith, by getting your parents to match every dollar you earn. Maybe they could pay for half? __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

September 24th, 2004, 10:10 AM	#6
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	<<i need a way to convince my parents to buy me the xl2 for my graduation present. this is all i want to do with my life is become a movie maker and it sucks cause my parents dont support it to much so if anyone has any good selling points or ways to convince them it would be greatly apreciated. thanks.>> My parents wouldn't even buy me a bicycle, but I'll give it a shot: suggest that you'll take care of them well in their retirement and never let them go to a nursing home.

September 24th, 2004, 10:22 AM	#7
Mike Berlucchi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brighton, Michigan Posts: 47	we have the money no problem they just think its a toy but thanks guys ill try your ideas out __________________ Love Mike http://www.mikeberlucchi.com

September 24th, 2004, 10:35 AM	#8
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	When I graduated from highschool I got a slap on the back and a "when are you moving out?" and had to work a crappy joe job for two months just to afford a second hand beaten up, single chip hi-8 camera of my own. Get a job and buy your own camera. It'll actually make you appreaciate it, instead of getting it handed to you by daddy. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

September 24th, 2004, 11:59 AM	#9
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	I wholeheartedly agree with your advice Dylan. My parents couldn't buy much for me. They said if I wanted it (car, guitars, etc) that I had to earn the money and buy it myself. And you're right in that I take VERY GOOD CARE of my equipment because it comes out of my own pocket. Mike B, You should really get a job, save your money and buy a camera. Maybe your parents can help out, but you should not expect them to buy it for you. =gb=

September 24th, 2004, 12:07 PM	#10
Federico Dib Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 312	I agree with Rob, get a GL2 or something less expensive, rent or borrow... Then go out and make some movies... Then show them to your parents... If they are any good (the movies), your folks will know you are not playing around with a "toy".. then you can ask for the BIG ONE... Unless you have allready shot something cool.. then that should be a good argument. Also if you show interest in studying something related to filmmaking they might take it more seriously... If nothing works, then go out and do as most of us... work, work, keep working, save your money, and buy whatever you can.. I sure wish my dad could have givven me something like this... But don´t worry if you don´t get it right away, it will only hold you back a couple of years... Spend those years learning, so when you have the BIG TOY you can make the most of out of it. __________________ Messenger Boy : The Thessalonian you're fighting, he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him. Achilles : That is why no one will remember your name.

September 24th, 2004, 07:05 PM	#11
Mike Berlucchi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brighton, Michigan Posts: 47	i do have a job and i think i might just save up but it will take me a while. But i guess ill just save money cause i think im goin to columbia which is super expensive i guess. __________________ Love Mike http://www.mikeberlucchi.com

September 29th, 2004, 11:30 PM	#12
Jared Thomas Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: texas Posts: 60	dude mike....i just graduated from high school like....december of '03....i graduated early because of home school stuff...but anyway....im gettin a xl1s tomarrow.....i bought it from a guy off this board....you should go check the classifieds and you could probably find somethin you want for cheap. i worked forever to buy this camera....my parents pitchedin a grand and it still took me forever to buy this camera..it really will mean more to you if you work for it.... __________________ get me another job.

September 30th, 2004, 05:38 AM	#13
Mike Berlucchi Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brighton, Michigan Posts: 47	hey jared thanks but hey i saw your sig emagdnim do you rollerblade cause that would be rad since i do to. but ya my parents said they would most likesly buy it for me if i didnt have a party or whatever. so im just savin for my computer. but ya jared you would be even rader than ever __________________ Love Mike http://www.mikeberlucchi.com

September 30th, 2004, 05:53 AM	#14
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	?? Somebody must have changed the forum language. ;-) I didn't understand a word.. rad..??

October 3rd, 2004, 11:26 PM	#15
Jared Thomas Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: texas Posts: 60	do i rollerblade?!?!?!?!.......DO I ROLLERBLADE?!?!?!.......the answer to that question would be hells yes i rollerblade.......message me sometime man......rjotoml (screen name) __________________ get me another job.