Bottle Rocket (original and remake) at DVinfo.net

John Locke · May 7th, 2003, 07:09 AM

Has anyone seen both versions of Bottle Rocket?

It's amazing to see the jump in production quality between the two versions...though the content is good in both. How in the world does an inexperienced, young director go from low quality home movie production to a Hollywood production in two years?

Charles Papert · May 7th, 2003, 11:47 AM

Fortunately, Polly Platt saw through the low-budget exterior and recognized Wes Anderson's talent, and the rest is history! It just goes to show that making a killer short is possibly the best way in to the industry these days; there have been quite a few stories just like this. The crew that was assembled for "Bottle Rocket", including production designer David Wasco and cinematographer Bob Yeoman, have continued with Wes for all three of his films, and for me make a huge contribution to the success of his pictures.

But where did you see the original short, John? I would love to check it out. "Bottle Rocket" is one of my favorites.

"He's out. You're out, too. And I don't think I'm in, either. No gang!"

"Ca-Cawww!"

John Locke · May 7th, 2003, 06:59 PM

"How does an asshole like Bob get such a great kitchen?"

There are so many good lines in that movie, you'd practically have to paste the whole script here.

Charles, I saw the original online, then ordered the DVD of the remake. I just tried to find the original film I watched online again for you...but can't find it anywhere. Dang.

I wonder how Polly Platt saw the original? Was it submitted...or shown at a festival? It's amazing that anyone in the biz would've watched the original long enough to see how great it is...since the production quality was so low. The dialogue does grab you right away, though.

"Wasco"...I wondered where they came up with the name "Wasco State Penitentiary." (I recognized the jail where they filmed that...it's off IH35 between Austin and San Marcos...and knew that wasn't the real name)

Brad Simmons · May 7th, 2003, 11:59 PM

The interesting thing about Wes Anderson's movies for me and a lot of people, is that they are so much better when seen twice, or even three times. It takes a second viewing for me to really let the script and dry humor sink in. Rushmore and the Royal Tenebaums are brilliant films IMO. I've seen Bottle Rocket once. I couldn't really follow the plot, but I'm sure if I saw it again I would pick up on things. I'd love to see the original short as well.

Charles Papert · May 8th, 2003, 01:21 AM

John, that line about the kitchen is one that I have used many times since as an example of brilliant writing (or maybe it was a crack improv, someday I may find out which)...you never see the kitchen, you never care if you see the kitchen, you can barely hear that line spoken (had to crank the volume AND activate the subtitle feature) but man, how funny is that?

I believe Polly Platt saw it at a festival.

May 7th, 2003, 07:09 AM	#1
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Bottle Rocket (original and remake) Has anyone seen both versions of Bottle Rocket? It's amazing to see the jump in production quality between the two versions...though the content is good in both. How in the world does an inexperienced, young director go from low quality home movie production to a Hollywood production in two years? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

May 7th, 2003, 11:47 AM	#2
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Fortunately, Polly Platt saw through the low-budget exterior and recognized Wes Anderson's talent, and the rest is history! It just goes to show that making a killer short is possibly the best way in to the industry these days; there have been quite a few stories just like this. The crew that was assembled for "Bottle Rocket", including production designer David Wasco and cinematographer Bob Yeoman, have continued with Wes for all three of his films, and for me make a huge contribution to the success of his pictures. But where did you see the original short, John? I would love to check it out. "Bottle Rocket" is one of my favorites. "He's out. You're out, too. And I don't think I'm in, either. No gang!" "Ca-Cawww!" __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

May 7th, 2003, 06:59 PM	#3
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	"How does an asshole like Bob get such a great kitchen?" There are so many good lines in that movie, you'd practically have to paste the whole script here. Charles, I saw the original online, then ordered the DVD of the remake. I just tried to find the original film I watched online again for you...but can't find it anywhere. Dang. I wonder how Polly Platt saw the original? Was it submitted...or shown at a festival? It's amazing that anyone in the biz would've watched the original long enough to see how great it is...since the production quality was so low. The dialogue does grab you right away, though. "Wasco"...I wondered where they came up with the name "Wasco State Penitentiary." (I recognized the jail where they filmed that...it's off IH35 between Austin and San Marcos...and knew that wasn't the real name) __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

May 8th, 2003, 01:21 AM	#5
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	John, that line about the kitchen is one that I have used many times since as an example of brilliant writing (or maybe it was a crack improv, someday I may find out which)...you never see the kitchen, you never care if you see the kitchen, you can barely hear that line spoken (had to crank the volume AND activate the subtitle feature) but man, how funny is that? I believe Polly Platt saw it at a festival. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

May 7th, 2003, 11:59 PM	#4
Brad Simmons Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington DC Posts: 304	The interesting thing about Wes Anderson's movies for me and a lot of people, is that they are so much better when seen twice, or even three times. It takes a second viewing for me to really let the script and dry humor sink in. Rushmore and the Royal Tenebaums are brilliant films IMO. I've seen Bottle Rocket once. I couldn't really follow the plot, but I'm sure if I saw it again I would pick up on things. I'd love to see the original short as well.