Calibrating Monitors

Andre De Clercq · March 20th, 2005, 04:43 AM

1.Feed through setting has been covered by Glen. Daisy chaining monitors is not allways adviseable because most feed through filters introduce some image quality reduction.
2.Skew: a geometry setting to make the active image borders parallel to the display bezel (after keystone correction)
3.Are you shure it's "DISC SW"and not "DISP SW". The latter means switching the 50/60 Hz auto detection on or off.

Ian Stark · March 20th, 2005, 05:35 AM

Thanks, gents, for your responses.

Andre, definitely DISC.

Glenn, yes, I followed the instructions there. My monitor doesn't have an autocalibrate facility (it's fairly basic) but I have done what I think it is a reasonable job. I guess I need to find someone with some scopes to really do a good job though.

Thanks again for the help.

Ian . . .

Chris Bottrell · April 18th, 2006, 12:05 PM

Hi All,

I use a Canon XL2 and have just bought a Sony PVM 1440 Monitor, now the question is do i calibrate the monitor to the camera or to my NLE system or both? (i use premiere pro and after effects)

I am using a Geforce 6500 graphics card with the ability to change the colour profile do i leave this as standard or choose say STMP-C or Adobe 1998 or what?

The other way i thought is to attach the XL2 to the monitor and calibrate the monitor with the XL2 colour bars, then fine tune it with my eye to make sure all colour look correct to what i see with the naked eye? I have tried using the instructions on videouniversity but i cant get my monitor to display three grey bars down the bottom right.

Please help

PS all my equipment is PAL!!!

Glenn Chan · April 29th, 2006, 02:17 AM

What editing system are you using?

Generally speaking, only use the color bars generated from your NLE. Don't import pictures, the levels can be wrong.

hook up your XL2 via FIREWIRE (not S-video off the video card) and attach the monitor to the XL2.

Then use the instructions from video university.

2- If the XL2 has "7.5% setup" like the XL1 does, you should probably disable it (it should be disabled/off by default). It may be adding digital setup- I would only turn it on if you know what it does.

Jack Walker · July 26th, 2006, 08:27 PM

I read a post from someone who used a piece of hardware to calibrate TVs to use as monitors. I visited the website but can't find it again.

The company makes a triangular looking device that sits on the monitor/TV (there are a couple of models) for calibrating the monitor. The devices cost in the area of $200.

I think I saw it in this forum, but can't find it now. Can someome please point me to it? Thank you! I think it might have been one of the main moderators who made the post. I want to find it soon, because there was a sale that ends the end of July.

K. Forman · July 26th, 2006, 09:09 PM

Calibug maybe?

Jack Walker · July 26th, 2006, 10:53 PM

No, not the Calibug.

This is a device that sits on the face of the screen. It is possiblity about 10 to 12 inches in diameter.

On of the models is used to calibrate home theater system TVs.

Dave Rochelle · July 28th, 2006, 09:34 AM

Was it possibly the Spyder2 from Colorvision?

Boyd Ostroff · July 29th, 2006, 02:04 PM

Hey Jack, maybe you were thinking of this thread?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64809

Bill Edmunds · August 4th, 2006, 03:14 PM

Do you know of any way I can effectively calibrate the contrast & brightness levels of a monitor that doesn't have a blue gun? I've got a cheap Panasonic 13" S-video monitor and I really have no idea if the contrast & brightness are accurate at all.

Harold Schreiber · August 4th, 2006, 05:56 PM

Hi Bill,

Just use one of the Video Tweaking DVD's, like Avia or Video Essentials.

Harold

Dan Keaton · August 4th, 2006, 06:42 PM

Do you have a camera, such as a Canon Xl1s, XL2, or XL H1?

If so, use the Color Bars function to feed the monitor.

Then, using the procedures for monitor setup available on the internet to set the brightness, contrast, and hue.

If you do not have Color Bars available, do you have an editor, such as Vegas? If you do, setup Color Bars in your editor and route the signal to your monitor.

Please lets know what you have and we will try to assist.

Bill Edmunds · August 4th, 2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harold Schreiber

Hi Bill,

Just use one of the Video Tweaking DVD's, like Avia or Video Essentials.

Harold

Great idea!

Bill Edmunds · August 4th, 2006, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Do you have a camera, such as a Canon Xl1s, XL2, or XL H1?

If so, use the Color Bars function to feed the monitor.

Then, using the procedures for monitor setup available on the internet to set the brightness, contrast, and hue.

If you do not have Color Bars available, do you have an editor, such as Vegas? If you do, setup Color Bars in your editor and route the signal to your monitor.

Please lets know what you have and we will try to assist.

I have Final Cut Pro and a JVC HD100, as well as Sony PD170s. So I can easily generate color bars to the monitor. Then what do I do?

Daniel Wang · August 4th, 2006, 07:27 PM

setting up color bars.
http://www.videouniversity.com/tvbars2.htm

a decent guide, but it takes practice.

March 20th, 2005, 05:35 AM	#47
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Thanks, gents, for your responses. Andre, definitely DISC. Glenn, yes, I followed the instructions there. My monitor doesn't have an autocalibrate facility (it's fairly basic) but I have done what I think it is a reasonable job. I guess I need to find someone with some scopes to really do a good job though. Thanks again for the help. Ian . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

April 18th, 2006, 12:05 PM	#48
Chris Bottrell New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norwich UK Posts: 23	Calibration Question Sony PVM 1440 Hi All, I use a Canon XL2 and have just bought a Sony PVM 1440 Monitor, now the question is do i calibrate the monitor to the camera or to my NLE system or both? (i use premiere pro and after effects) I am using a Geforce 6500 graphics card with the ability to change the colour profile do i leave this as standard or choose say STMP-C or Adobe 1998 or what? The other way i thought is to attach the XL2 to the monitor and calibrate the monitor with the XL2 colour bars, then fine tune it with my eye to make sure all colour look correct to what i see with the naked eye? I have tried using the instructions on videouniversity but i cant get my monitor to display three grey bars down the bottom right. Please help PS all my equipment is PAL!!! __________________ Chris Bottrell Director R18 Wholesale LTD Canon XL2

July 26th, 2006, 08:27 PM	#50
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	Help Please Locate Monitor/TV Calibrating Hardware I read a post from someone who used a piece of hardware to calibrate TVs to use as monitors. I visited the website but can't find it again. The company makes a triangular looking device that sits on the monitor/TV (there are a couple of models) for calibrating the monitor. The devices cost in the area of $200. I think I saw it in this forum, but can't find it now. Can someome please point me to it? Thank you! I think it might have been one of the main moderators who made the post. I want to find it soon, because there was a sale that ends the end of July.

July 26th, 2006, 09:09 PM	#51
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Calibug maybe? __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

August 4th, 2006, 03:14 PM	#55
Bill Edmunds Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conway, NH Posts: 574	Calibrating a cheap-o monitor??? Do you know of any way I can effectively calibrate the contrast & brightness levels of a monitor that doesn't have a blue gun? I've got a cheap Panasonic 13" S-video monitor and I really have no idea if the contrast & brightness are accurate at all.

March 20th, 2005, 04:43 AM	#46
Andre De Clercq Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 804	1.Feed through setting has been covered by Glen. Daisy chaining monitors is not allways adviseable because most feed through filters introduce some image quality reduction. 2.Skew: a geometry setting to make the active image borders parallel to the display bezel (after keystone correction) 3.Are you shure it's "DISC SW"and not "DISP SW". The latter means switching the 50/60 Hz auto detection on or off.

April 29th, 2006, 02:17 AM	#49
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	What editing system are you using? Generally speaking, only use the color bars generated from your NLE. Don't import pictures, the levels can be wrong. hook up your XL2 via FIREWIRE (not S-video off the video card) and attach the monitor to the XL2. Then use the instructions from video university. 2- If the XL2 has "7.5% setup" like the XL1 does, you should probably disable it (it should be disabled/off by default). It may be adding digital setup- I would only turn it on if you know what it does.

July 26th, 2006, 10:53 PM	#52
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	No, not the Calibug. This is a device that sits on the face of the screen. It is possiblity about 10 to 12 inches in diameter. On of the models is used to calibrate home theater system TVs.

July 28th, 2006, 09:34 AM	#53
Dave Rochelle Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 58	Was it possibly the Spyder2 from Colorvision?

July 29th, 2006, 02:04 PM	#54
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,810	Hey Jack, maybe you were thinking of this thread? http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64809

August 4th, 2006, 05:56 PM	#56
Harold Schreiber Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olathe, Kansas Posts: 309	Hi Bill, Just use one of the Video Tweaking DVD's, like Avia or Video Essentials. Harold

August 4th, 2006, 06:42 PM	#57
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Do you have a camera, such as a Canon Xl1s, XL2, or XL H1? If so, use the Color Bars function to feed the monitor. Then, using the procedures for monitor setup available on the internet to set the brightness, contrast, and hue. If you do not have Color Bars available, do you have an editor, such as Vegas? If you do, setup Color Bars in your editor and route the signal to your monitor. Please lets know what you have and we will try to assist. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

August 4th, 2006, 07:27 PM	#60
Daniel Wang Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 113	setting up color bars. http://www.videouniversity.com/tvbars2.htm a decent guide, but it takes practice.