I Believe this is the largest Wedding film production in the UK - Trailer

Pete James · November 23rd, 2010, 10:21 AM

Mandi & Manjit's Wedding Trailer.
This is the Trailer from what I believe to be the largest scale wedding film produced in the UK( not including the Royal ones) please correct me if I'm wrong,

It took 5 crew, 2 cranes, 2 steacicams Glidetrack shooter and a host of other kit, Edited with Adobe CS5 Premiere and After efects using a myriad of plugins.

Travis Cossel · November 29th, 2010, 11:04 PM

First and foremost, I loved the way this trailer built up to the end. Overall I thought you did a great job. Was it perfect? No, but for me there wasn't anything that really bothered me except for maybe the slow zooms (just not my thing). Nice work!

I noticed you mentioned you spent 20 hours in post on this, so I couldn't help but go see what you charge for a trailer. 200 pounds divided by 20 hours leaves you making 15/hr. I loved the trailer but you need to be charging more (in my opinion) for something like this.

Pete James · November 30th, 2010, 07:06 AM

Hi Ethan,

A lot of what you said is obviously personal preference and opinion, I agree with the grade comments in places, the car shot maybe not too creative, but not totally out of place, and the zooms were done in post to flow with the music, zoom is used in cinema and if i see it in a film, it doesnt say 'video' to me!

The steadicam shot isnt perfect, had i had an empty room to shoot would have been tho, try filming perfectly on a 20 hour shoot filming at 6 locations with over 800 guests organising 4 crew and dodging 4 photographers all in one day!

That said, thanks for putting your points to me concisley.

Best Regards

Pete

Pete James · November 30th, 2010, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Cossel

First and foremost, I loved the way this trailer built up to the end. Overall I thought you did a great job. Was it perfect? No, but for me there wasn't anything that really bothered me except for maybe the slow zooms (just not my thing). Nice work!

I noticed you mentioned you spent 20 hours in post on this, so I couldn't help but go see what you charge for a trailer. 200 pounds divided by 20 hours leaves you making 15/hr. I loved the trailer but you need to be charging more (in my opinion) for something like this.

Hi Travis,

Thanks for taking the time to comment, I will achieve perfection one day!!!;0)
I'd like to pick up on your point about the charge for the trailer, as it was a good one!!
You are absolutely right, the charge for this has no correlation to the amount of work involved, but there is a reason for this.... I haven't spent a penny on advertising since September 2008 and the sole reason for this is the trailers, as soon as they are online, I can guarntee enquiries will come flooding in. For example 2 days after this trailer was released I had an enquiry for another Sikh wedding worth £7500 which I am due to complete on next week.

So I see the work I put into them as a form of paying for advertising, and it's worked a treat so far.

All the Best, btw Love your work

Pete

Kevin Shahinian · December 3rd, 2010, 04:53 PM

Two jibs? You're an animal, Pete. Kudos for the level of ambition. I'm glad to see you got to shoot Mandi's event, I felt bad we coudn't make it work for her, very sweet couple. I also agree with others here that you need to charge more for your services. Clients should value your time and effort, but they can't until you value it first. Don't be afraid to be firm. I'm planning a trip to the UK next year, I look forward to meeting up. Congrats also on launching Wedfilm Academy. Hope it does well for you.

Cheers,
-K

Sunni Bhandal · December 3rd, 2010, 10:30 PM

no words to say anythink. Its too good man. I love ur shooting and editing

Thanks For sharing with us. If u get chance to learn from u i naver missed it

Pete James · December 6th, 2010, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Shahinian

Two jibs? You're an animal, Pete. Kudos for the level of ambition. I'm glad to see you got to shoot Mandi's event, I felt bad we coudn't make it work for her, very sweet couple. I also agree with others here that you need to charge more for your services. Clients should value your time and effort, but they can't until you value it first. Don't be afraid to be firm. I'm planning a trip to the UK next year, I look forward to meeting up. Congrats also on launching Wedfilm Academy. Hope it does well for you.

Cheers,
-K

Hi Kevin,

Yeah it was quite a challenge, the biggest of my career so far, managed to pull it off, and they are chuffed with the results, as you said lovely couple, Mandi is so matter of fact she's so funny, her humour kept me going over the 18 hours of shooting!

Prices are allways a contencious issue, and I do try to keep them in direct correlation with the work rate, so I'm getting there slowly!

Do you have any dates for your UK visit, and do you still have plans we talked about before? If so, would be more than happy to help out with the project and promote it through WedFilm Academy.

Back to work, the mountain just got to kilimonjaro level now there is two businesses to run!!

All the Best

Pete

Pete James · December 6th, 2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunni Bhandal

no words to say anythink. Its too good man. I love ur shooting and editing

Thanks For sharing with us. If u get chance to learn from u i naver missed it

Hi Sunni,

Thanks for the kind words, and Im pleased to say you have a chance to learn from me with my new company Wedfilm Academy, check out the site and if you like what you see you can sign up for it.

Best Regards

Pete

Peter Szilveszter · December 8th, 2010, 06:35 PM

Excellent edit and consistent build makes an entertaining viewing.

Only thing I that took me out of the enjoyment of it was the grading, some shots looked really well graded and some seemed almost straight out of the camera. I didn't mind so much the different grades but more that, going from some real punchy images and then flat shots. but that's about it.

Pete James · December 9th, 2010, 05:02 AM

Hi Peter,

Appologies for spoiling your enjoyment, Im having a little bit of a hard time colour correcting from 5 camera sources, i'll get there in the end!!

Gianni Paolella · January 6th, 2011, 12:24 PM

Hi Guy and Videomakers collegue,Pete James is one of the best Wedding videomaker I saw here, you can see that every work he made is always very good for shooting, music,if you like epic style,and editing too.
Now with Wed Academy web site, with Richard, he made another great Job for all,newbie and not.
I like the Pete and Richard work a lot.
Gianni from Italy.

November 29th, 2010, 11:04 PM	#16
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	First and foremost, I loved the way this trailer built up to the end. Overall I thought you did a great job. Was it perfect? No, but for me there wasn't anything that really bothered me except for maybe the slow zooms (just not my thing). Nice work! I noticed you mentioned you spent 20 hours in post on this, so I couldn't help but go see what you charge for a trailer. 200 pounds divided by 20 hours leaves you making 15/hr. I loved the trailer but you need to be charging more (in my opinion) for something like this. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

December 3rd, 2010, 04:53 PM	#19
Kevin Shahinian Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 116	Two jibs? You're an animal, Pete. Kudos for the level of ambition. I'm glad to see you got to shoot Mandi's event, I felt bad we coudn't make it work for her, very sweet couple. I also agree with others here that you need to charge more for your services. Clients should value your time and effort, but they can't until you value it first. Don't be afraid to be firm. I'm planning a trip to the UK next year, I look forward to meeting up. Congrats also on launching Wedfilm Academy. Hope it does well for you. Cheers, -K __________________ www.PacificPictures.net

December 8th, 2010, 06:35 PM	#23
Peter Szilveszter Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yeppoon, Queensland Posts: 332	Excellent edit and consistent build makes an entertaining viewing. Only thing I that took me out of the enjoyment of it was the grading, some shots looked really well graded and some seemed almost straight out of the camera. I didn't mind so much the different grades but more that, going from some real punchy images and then flat shots. but that's about it. __________________ www.livinglens.com.au \| www.livinglens.com.au/blog

November 30th, 2010, 07:06 AM	#17
Pete James New Boot Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cardiff, Wales. UK Posts: 20	Hi Ethan, A lot of what you said is obviously personal preference and opinion, I agree with the grade comments in places, the car shot maybe not too creative, but not totally out of place, and the zooms were done in post to flow with the music, zoom is used in cinema and if i see it in a film, it doesnt say 'video' to me! The steadicam shot isnt perfect, had i had an empty room to shoot would have been tho, try filming perfectly on a 20 hour shoot filming at 6 locations with over 800 guests organising 4 crew and dodging 4 photographers all in one day! That said, thanks for putting your points to me concisley. Best Regards Pete

December 3rd, 2010, 10:30 PM	#20
Sunni Bhandal New Boot Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 18	no words to say anythink. Its too good man. I love ur shooting and editing Thanks For sharing with us. If u get chance to learn from u i naver missed it

December 9th, 2010, 05:02 AM	#24
Pete James New Boot Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cardiff, Wales. UK Posts: 20	Hi Peter, Appologies for spoiling your enjoyment, Im having a little bit of a hard time colour correcting from 5 camera sources, i'll get there in the end!!

January 6th, 2011, 12:24 PM	#25
Gianni Paolella Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MILAN ITALY Posts: 82	Hi Guy and Videomakers collegue,Pete James is one of the best Wedding videomaker I saw here, you can see that every work he made is always very good for shooting, music,if you like epic style,and editing too. Now with Wed Academy web site, with Richard, he made another great Job for all,newbie and not. I like the Pete and Richard work a lot. Gianni from Italy.