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Noel Lising May 4th, 2011 08:10 AM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent Oliver (Post 1638401)
It's funny how wedding photography has evolved. I started out as a stills photographer and would cover a full wedding with 10 rolls of 120 film (120 exposures max) Now I see photographers with digital cameras shooting hundreds if not one or two thousand pictures at a wedding. They all seem to need re-assurance that the last picture taken was OK. Maybe this is both the blessing and curse for digital capture.

Having said that, I wouldn't want to go back to shooting film. (or tape for video cameras)

I still run into a photog who shoots with film, and I agree film photographers are generally more conservative (volume wise) in shooting pictures. During the reception he was down to 8 shots (cake, bouquet and whatever else is happening). I guess they do it because they can, my buddy who's been a wedding photographer for 20 years, shoots hundreds of pictures with digital, something he can't do back then with film.

Chris Harding May 4th, 2011 08:12 AM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Hey Noel

That's my answer as well..a combined package and then I have the photog I want to work with and we respect each others space. However, more than often the bride has already booked a photog!!

The ladies last weekend were somewhat surprised when I asked nicely don't stand in front of my camera..I don't mind you crossing my field of view as I can cover that....the answer was "What if I need to take a shot from where your camera is????" She actually got in the way during the rings too!!!

I still like the Tazer idea with a warning....stand in front of my camera and you will get zapped!!!

Is taking just one step to the left or right going to make your shot impossible????

Chris

Michael Kenney May 4th, 2011 05:08 PM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Too funny watching that footage. Helped shoot a wedding this weekend and I know several shots of mine had to be adjusted or were just plain ruined by the photographers.. but one of the other camera operators had the worst of it.

One of the few times we have shot in a church where we could not move. This poor girl (college intern hoping to get into the business) is helping out for free. So we put her at the back of the church in the center of the aisle so she can get the central shots and the money shot of the bride and groom turning and exiting the church.. we're reviewing the tapes while they are being imported into FCP on Sunday.. right after the Bride and Groom kiss.. the screen is filled with the back of the photographer's head for the next ten seconds. Our camera girl slides to one side.. only to have the photographer's assistant block her shot with his back while he's holding the flash.

Thankfully, one of our spots was in the balcony by the organ just above that so we still got the shot. That taser idea sounds like a great solution. ;)

Johannes Soetandi May 5th, 2011 04:03 AM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
What about photographer who loves to direct?

I've worked with one who just love to tell the bride & groom what to do. And as I'm editing I lose almost all the natural conversation in it as the photographer kept chirping in..

"Look here"
"Smile here"
"Wear that vest"
"Now smile again"
"Look up a bit"
"Look there"
"LOL"
@#^*&^@#

And he stands very close to my camera so it was really loud. While it gets the B&G laughing with his joke (and he gets all smiley faces on his shots), I dont feel comfortable with what I'll be seeing (or hearing) in the final edit. Surely he doesnt have to direct everything. :(

Chris Harding May 5th, 2011 07:03 AM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Hey Johannes

I never hear directions from the photog cos they only near me during the ceremony and they dare not give directions!! I don't do any photoshoot with the photogs!! After the group pics I borrow the B&G for about 15 minutes and do a video shoot away from them..then the photog has them all to him/herself!!

I really cannot see the point of a videographer shooting footage of the photog taking stills of the bridal party...yet I see these guys doing it all the time????

Chris

Johannes Soetandi May 5th, 2011 08:21 PM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Chris,

I'm mostly concerned during the preparation. Because you can't really be separated from the photographer when they are putting on their blazer/dress. It only happens once anyway and sometime in a cramped room. But this photog likes to tell them how to pose rather then letting the event unfold itself. So the footage of them dressing up was pretty much full of photog audio commentary.

No problem during ceremony and photoshoot as I usually ask for special time for me to take some video shots anyway.

Nigel Barker May 6th, 2011 12:12 AM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Harding (Post 1645886)
I really cannot see the point of a videographer shooting footage of the photog taking stills of the bridal party...yet I see these guys doing it all the time????

Being ordered about by the photographer will be one of the couple's memories of the day so why wouldn't they want it recorded?

Johannes Soetandi May 6th, 2011 01:00 AM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
I agree with Nigel. It's actually a memorable time of the day too. Lots of laughter and behind the scenes footage that will be nice in the DVD. In my first few weddings, I didn't record much of it.. and a client have asked why there isn't much footage of the photo session in the DVD.

Chris Harding May 6th, 2011 02:29 AM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Hi Guys

Oh well, I like to be different!!! I actually do ask the couple and I have not yet had one that wants video of the photographer..in fact one bride was adamant that I don't have the photog in any shots nor any posed still shots. That sort of footage can be done by Uncle Bob with his Handycam if the bride really wants it!!

My brides seem to enjoy a special photoshoot with just the three of us that's totally different from the still shoot. Then again my entire video shoot of this part is done on stedicam too so static poses would really be a waste!!

Each to their own style...that's what makes us unique!!!

Chris

Michael Simons May 6th, 2011 08:10 PM

Re: Wedding nightmare
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Harding (Post 1646209)
Hi Guys

Oh well, I like to be different!!! I actually do ask the couple and I have not yet had one that wants video of the photographer..in fact one bride was adamant that I don't have the photog in any shots nor any posed still shots. That sort of footage can be done by Uncle Bob with his Handycam if the bride really wants it!!

My brides seem to enjoy a special photoshoot with just the three of us that's totally different from the still shoot. Then again my entire video shoot of this part is done on stedicam too so static poses would really be a waste!!

Each to their own style...that's what makes us unique!!!

Chris

Chris, how do you find that extra time in the day to take them off to the side for 15 minutes?


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