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January 12th, 2016, 10:16 AM | #16 | |
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I have been using the 12-35 and 35-100 and maybe it's just what I'm doing with it combined with the lenses only going to 2.8, but I haven't got very good lowlight quality out of it. Maybe a faster lens would help or maybe I need to do something differently. Let me ask you this. Part of the reason I wanted the A7Sii is not necessarily to bump up the light too much in those situations, but so that I could shoot at a higher frame rate to potentially slow it down during my highlight video. Do you ever do that? Does that make sense at all to do or do you normally just shoot it with as much light as you can get and not slow it for those videos? |
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January 12th, 2016, 12:08 PM | #20 |
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I have always heard to follow the 180 rule. So if you shoot at 50fps, you still stay at 1/50? Interesting. I should go test it out with my GH4 to see how it looks. I need to learn when and when not to break that rule.
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So let's say I rent the A7sii and want to shoot the entire wedding at 60fps. Would you advise me to shoot at 1/120 or lower?
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January 12th, 2016, 12:30 PM | #22 |
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Rules are there to be broken :) I don't visually see any difference between a shutter of 1/50 and 1/100 if I shoot at 50fps and because it makes a difference when shooting at low light I mostly have it at 1/50. If I have to shoot outside in the sun and if I don't have a nd filter I ramp the shutter up very high, you will notice a difference if something is moving but for talking heads it's also hardly visible. The clip I linked to is shot in that way and it's not noticeable something is not shot with the 'right' shutterspeed. Ofcourse you can always try to follow the general rules of filmmaking but at a wedding there is often not much time for that so you stick with what is easy and what works.
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I'm more a stickler for the 180 degree rule, mainly as I hate the fast shutter look that comes off as a cross between stop motion and the old 12fps footage of the old movies - at least to my eyes it does. After hearing of others breaking the rule, I did try in a Wedding last May and regretted it as soon as I saw the footage.
I think for 50/60fps, there is more latitude either way. Though if you're upping fps in order to slow down the footage in post, you'd get better results if shutter was set to 1/120 for 60fps. Though I suppose that depends if you're slowing down a romantic kiss or fast dance move. If simply using it for smoother motion in much the same way as 50i, then I don't suppose it matters if shutter is 1/50 or 1/60. Last edited by Steve Burkett; January 12th, 2016 at 04:05 PM. Reason: Grammar |
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i shoot at 60p with all my cameras and always use a shutter speed of 60 in lower light situations. I mostly use 1.8 lenses so I am usually not struggling for light but in rare cases I might drop to a shutter of 30 as long as there is not a lot of movement as there may be a strobing or stuttering look.
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In case anyone was curious as to what I did, I went ahead and rented a second GH4 with a metabones speedbooster. Since I already have so many canon lenses (70-200 2.8 IS ii, Sigma 35 1.4, Sigma 50mm 1.4, 100 Macro IS, tokina 11-16) I figured I could just use the GH4 with my lenses and it would make up for not having any fast micro 4/3 lenses.
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I hope it goes well, if you were a little closer, I could come out and hold your Pepsi.
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Haha thanks.
I guess now I'm just worried about being in the right place at the right time. Does anyone have a suggestion on camera placement during the ceremony? Reception? I had planned on having 1 in the back of the ceremony, me walking around with 1 on a monopod (70-200), my wife walking around with one on a tripod and a GoPro somewhere. Is that a normal set up? |
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Typically the bride is where I start my placement theory, then the walk. I'm a little odd in that I don't like to move, it's distracting, but that's just me.
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1 fixed camera on wide at the back; that's your safety camera. Try to avoid blocking it if you can; if you can get it up higher then do so. Its one to cut to when needed. The 2 roving cameras are your main ones. I suggest one at the front covering the couple and 1 behind or to the side of the couple covering the audience. However for rings, the camera behind the couple can often get a good shot down the aisle; depends on the service and layout.
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