Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Ian Stark · January 19th, 2004, 08:43 AM

Sorry Edward, I was making the suggestion rather than asking how - I didn't want you to think I was being curt!

But while on the subject of ways to make the binoculars mask look more realistic, I think that keyframing varying degrees of blur on the lower track (ie what is being seen through the binoculars) would nicely simulate the viewer focusing on the target.

Edward Troxel · January 19th, 2004, 09:37 AM

Sorry Ian. I mistook it as more of a question instead of a statement.

Kevin Maistros · January 19th, 2004, 09:42 AM

I posted in the filmlook forum about software that would convert 30fps to 24fps (XL-1s footage shot on framemode) and someone said Vegas would do it. How in vegas would I go about doing this? Would it just slow down the footage or actually convert it to 24?

Ian Stark · January 19th, 2004, 09:46 AM

No worries! My grammar I suspect, rather than your interpretation.

By the way, I wanted to say how much I enjoyed looking at your most recent newsletter. When I get home I'll be sure to subscribe and to trawl through the archives.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · January 19th, 2004, 10:32 AM

Assuming you don't plan on slowing the footage down or haphazardly excising frames, this is going to require some temporal interpolation, of which there are different varieties, none of which isn't going to cause distracting artifacting in the scenario you describe. How important is it to convert to this particular frame rate?

It's preferable to shoot in 60i when you intend to convert to 24 fps.

Rob Belics · January 19th, 2004, 10:32 AM

You can also whap the camera on the side during taping or playback.

Edward Troxel · January 19th, 2004, 10:34 AM

In Vegas, simply choose File - Render As and pick one of the 24p templates.

Ian Stark · January 19th, 2004, 10:38 AM

LOL!!

Edward Troxel · January 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM

There's also an interesting article related to this at:

http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/tu...s/filmlook.htm

Edward Troxel · January 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM

We get it when someone kicks the tripod!

Kevin Maistros · January 19th, 2004, 10:57 AM

Thank you, both.

Dan Lahav · January 19th, 2004, 02:34 PM

Thanks for your replys guys. Stretching the audio doesnt seem like the effect im going for. I'm going for the "deep and slow" voice effect or the opposite, which is the "chipmunk" voice effect

Graham Bernard · January 19th, 2004, 02:46 PM

er . . Guys . .did I read somewhere that one can set the "pitch" to go or not go with a VeloEnv? Or am I again having a "young" senior moment?!?!

Grazie

Edward Troxel · January 19th, 2004, 03:28 PM

Well, the velocity envelope does not come into play because it does not affect audio. But, yes, you CAN adjust the pitch of clips whether or not you stretch or shrink them via a CTRL-Drag.

Eric Hammonds · January 19th, 2004, 10:24 PM

It worked with the demo so I ordered a copy today. Stand by for a rash of newbie questions.

Eric

January 19th, 2004, 09:42 AM	#153
Kevin Maistros Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 129	Converting 30fps to 24fps? I posted in the filmlook forum about software that would convert 30fps to 24fps (XL-1s footage shot on framemode) and someone said Vegas would do it. How in vegas would I go about doing this? Would it just slow down the footage or actually convert it to 24?

January 19th, 2004, 10:32 AM	#155
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	Assuming you don't plan on slowing the footage down or haphazardly excising frames, this is going to require some temporal interpolation, of which there are different varieties, none of which isn't going to cause distracting artifacting in the scenario you describe. How important is it to convert to this particular frame rate? It's preferable to shoot in 60i when you intend to convert to 24 fps. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 19th, 2004, 08:43 AM	#151
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Sorry Edward, I was making the suggestion rather than asking how - I didn't want you to think I was being curt! But while on the subject of ways to make the binoculars mask look more realistic, I think that keyframing varying degrees of blur on the lower track (ie what is being seen through the binoculars) would nicely simulate the viewer focusing on the target.

January 19th, 2004, 09:37 AM	#152
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Sorry Ian. I mistook it as more of a question instead of a statement.

January 19th, 2004, 09:46 AM	#154
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	No worries! My grammar I suspect, rather than your interpretation. By the way, I wanted to say how much I enjoyed looking at your most recent newsletter. When I get home I'll be sure to subscribe and to trawl through the archives.

January 19th, 2004, 10:32 AM	#156
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	You can also whap the camera on the side during taping or playback.

January 19th, 2004, 10:34 AM	#157
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	In Vegas, simply choose File - Render As and pick one of the 24p templates.

January 19th, 2004, 10:38 AM	#158
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	LOL!!

January 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM	#159
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There's also an interesting article related to this at: http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/tu...s/filmlook.htm

January 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM	#160
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	We get it when someone kicks the tripod!

January 19th, 2004, 10:57 AM	#161
Kevin Maistros Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 129	Thank you, both.

January 19th, 2004, 02:34 PM	#162
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	Thanks for your replys guys. Stretching the audio doesnt seem like the effect im going for. I'm going for the "deep and slow" voice effect or the opposite, which is the "chipmunk" voice effect

January 19th, 2004, 02:46 PM	#163
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	er . . Guys . .did I read somewhere that one can set the "pitch" to go or not go with a VeloEnv? Or am I again having a "young" senior moment?!?! Grazie

January 19th, 2004, 03:28 PM	#164
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Well, the velocity envelope does not come into play because it does not affect audio. But, yes, you CAN adjust the pitch of clips whether or not you stretch or shrink them via a CTRL-Drag.

January 19th, 2004, 10:24 PM	#165
Eric Hammonds Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alexandria, AL Posts: 4	It worked with the demo so I ordered a copy today. Stand by for a rash of newbie questions. Eric