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Aaron Koolen May 27th, 2004 11:21 PM

Hmm, OK, when I go there it always says that it's $249 anyway for DVDA and Vegas upgrade....Maybe that's with some imaginary shipping which I wouldn't have as I'd download. Not shipping to NZ that's for sure.

Aaron

Douglas Spotted Eagle May 28th, 2004 12:43 AM

VASST tour update
 
Wow!! What a great time. Here in SFO, we've got Gary Kleiner, Jeffrey P. Fisher, Mike Downey, myself, and Leigh Herman from Sony. We've met some folks from the forums, had an awesome time with some of the user group folks, and tomorrow is the all-day ACID training event. Jeffrey P. Fisher will lead that one, and I'll be guest appearing in the "Scoring for Emotion" section related to ACID and Vegas 5.
Gary's script tools (Excalibur and Neon) are huge hits on the tour, but it's funny how many folks own these tools. Vegas 5 is attracting TONS of new users, evidenced by the new faces we're seeing on the various tour dates.
Congrats to the winners of the Opteron 64 processors and other great goodies on the road. The BOXX system and the VAIO systems are rockin' and rollin' along, even after a BOXX was destroyed in Chicago.

Looking forward to NYC, meeting the East coast crowds there too. Orlando, Atlanta, Dallas, Seattle, Phoenix, Toronto, and Honolulu are next stops, looking forward to those, too!!!

thanks to all that have been showing up in support of VASST and the Sony Media Software showcases. It's been great meeting so many of the DVInfo.net forum folks.

There are a buncha photos of the events on the VASST site if you'd like to see what sort of equipment we're flyin' around with.
http://www.vasst.com/tourstops/tourpix.htm
Finally, for those that have ordered the Vegas 5 FASST DVD's, that DVD started shipping yesterday, you should have them shortly.

Rob Lohman May 28th, 2004 04:52 AM

Lars: I'd be interested to see the script source on how you
call your DLL so it can access the Vegas functions / structures
etc.

I assume it isn't much code so you paste it in this thread for
everyone to see. Thanks!

Edward Troxel May 28th, 2004 06:19 AM

You're not looking at the "special" upgrade price which, as Bryan said, now expires on June 4th. Here's the full link from the e-mail I received:

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...2&keycode=6377

Lars Siden May 28th, 2004 10:02 AM

Hi,

OK, here goes:

lzvegas.js
--------------

import System.Windows.Forms;
import Sony.Vegas;
import lzVegas;

var _lzForm : lzForm = new lzForm(Vegas);


lzvegas.xml
---------------

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>

<ScriptSettings>
<AssemblyReference IsLocal="true">lzVegas.dll</AssemblyReference>
</ScriptSettings>

lzform.cs
-----------

This is the constructor:

public lzForm( Sony.Vegas.Vegas _INvegas )
{
// Our Application pointer
_vegas = _INvegas;

// Important, without this no window will show in Vegas.
this.Show();
}

Complete Visual Studio 2003 project can be downloaded here:

http://sidens.scorpionshops.com/lzVegas.rar

// Lazze

Mike Moncrief May 28th, 2004 03:58 PM

DVD Architect 2.0- possible to do this??
 
Hello,

Ok, Here is one.. if you have a 30 second piece of video as the background of your main menu, and you wish to have some text become one of your buttons .. And that text is part of the background footage and does not appear until say 10 seconds into the piece of video is playing.. can you map that background text as a button( I believe I saw Edward T. do this at his demo..) and can it be done if this does not appear until 10 seconds into the footage?

Thanks,
Mike Moncrief

Aaron Koolen May 28th, 2004 04:57 PM

OK, thanks Edward. It seemed a different keycode was being cookied or something so when I went via that link, it showed $249. Changing the keycode worked.

Thanks
Aaron

Andy Shrimpton May 28th, 2004 08:28 PM

Thanks Peter for the update.

Aaron Koolen May 28th, 2004 09:45 PM

Boris Graffiti LTD install probs.
 
Hi all, I've posted on the Sony forums but thought I'd try here too.

I got Vegas 5 which comes with the Boris software. Received serial number in email but for some reason, something's not being accept in the install and I can't get past the User Data screen in the installer.

Anyone had this problem, and know a fix? Maybe I'm just blind but I can't see anything that should stop me unless the serial # is wrong or something.

Cheers
Aaron

Magnus Helander May 29th, 2004 11:39 AM

Shuttle PRO vs Xpress w/ Vegas
 
Hi,
is there any point in getting the Contour Shuttle PRO
with all the buttons instead of the Xpress with 5 buttons?

I imagine reaching for the keyboard & mouse when it's time to edit - then Xpress should be fine..

Can anyone with experience of the PRO model help me out?
thanks
/magnus

Edward Troxel May 29th, 2004 02:18 PM

There was an update to the installation program. Are you using the updated version?

Aaron Koolen May 29th, 2004 03:10 PM

Edward, yeah I am as I just downloaded it yesterday after purchasing Vegas 5.


Cheers
Aaron

Andy Shrimpton May 29th, 2004 05:39 PM

Boris Graffiti LTD Text Roll
 
Hi All!

I am attempting to do a text roll (or credit roll) in Vegas, and can get it to work using
Vegas.

However I am getting a better look using the Boris Graffiti LTD that came with the
Vegas 5 Upgrade.

In Graffiti, the text roll is all happening, looks like I want it to.

When I export the movie as an avi, then load it in to Vegas, I cannot get the background to be transparent.

Is this possible? Or am I missing something in Boris?

Any help would be appreciated.

Andy

P.S. Thanks to Peter, Edward and Don who answered my previous post. Peter, the photoshop file I create is quite long, hence Vegas will only show the middle part of the file.

Don, I found the transparent scroll!

Irbbins Biarrieta May 29th, 2004 09:47 PM

Problem with 24p and fast motion
 
Hello all,
Long time reader, first time poster.
I've been following DSE's filmlook tutorial for use in a short film for school and my problem is this: There is a fight scene I'm currently working on, and the motion blur results in very obvious and ugly trails when rendering to 24p.
I've been able to run this same footage through Magic Bullet and the motion is very nice and crisp, very filmic as well. The resolution also looks better.
I'm not a big fan of magic bullet. Never found it to be anything special(redering takes sooo long!), nothing that couldn't be done with vegas and filters, but in this case, my eyes just can't deny the present advantage.
Have any of you experienced this? Were you able to overcome it in Vegas with different settings, etc?
Thanks in advance,
Irbbins

David Mintzer May 29th, 2004 09:58 PM

It depends on how "shuttle dependent" you want to become. I only use about four of the buttons on mine---mainly use the jog wheel but others will assign all the buttons and play that thing like a Stradivarius.

Edward Troxel May 29th, 2004 10:13 PM

The length of the photoshop file should have NOTHING to do with what can be shown. Just make sure you use Pan/Crop to move the image.

You can either use masking or chroma-key or render to an uncompressed AVI with Alpha-channel for your Graffiti method.

Andy Shrimpton May 30th, 2004 07:14 AM

Thanks Edward
 
Hi Edward.

I'll have to revisit both those methods, as I couldn't get any of them to work how I wanted them to. My long winded work around achieved the right effect, just didn't look as good.

Will repost when I've had more time to try them out.

Andy

Rob Lohman May 30th, 2004 08:09 AM

I think you need to split up the footage to do such a thing. What
might do the trick is to have the first 10 seconds play before the
menu (first play) and have the rest as a motion menu with the
a graphic button overlaying your text. Something like that.

Which demo from Edward would that be? The one you could
download or one in real-life? If the former then just watch it again?

Rob Lohman May 30th, 2004 08:52 AM

Thanks!!

Mike Moncrief May 30th, 2004 09:53 AM

Hello,
Thanks for responding.. umm, i was hoping that would not be the case.. one thing is i already have an opeing piece of video..
I guess i could split the second piece in half, and have it play into the third using end actions..??? ( have not yet tried it) I just wonder will it go to black between the two.. because i would really like to have them butted together..
By the way the demo with Edward was live about a week ago here in Orlando..

Mike

Rob Lohman May 30th, 2004 10:26 AM

You could also stick the first 10 seconds onto the end of the first
play movie.

Perhaps someone else has a better idea. I haven't looked too
good at DVD Architect yet.

Rob Lohman May 30th, 2004 10:30 AM

That sounds plausible. Different "effects" will yield different
results. Can you point to the exact technique you used (URL)?
I'm not familair with DSE's method.

Gary Kleiner May 30th, 2004 10:57 AM

You can create an invisible button by pulling the alpha channel to full transparency. Position it to where your text appears on your video background.

Gary

Mike Moncrief May 30th, 2004 11:00 AM

Vegas end encoding for web
 
Hello,

Another question(or questions), i have some video that needs to be encoded for the web from Vegas 5..Is there a size that is common to make the video for the web 320X240 ? or a different size?? And how are the codecs for rendering out Video from Vegas?? I see it has several, Windows Media, RealPlayer, Quicktime Mpeg..Do any one of these codecs in Vegas do a better job?? (Highest quality, smallest file size) Or should i look elsewhere for something to encode the files?

Thanks,
Mike Moncrief

Rob Lohman May 30th, 2004 11:11 AM

Vegas basically has all the tools you need. Which format you want
depends on what you like and what formats you want to support.

The two biggest are QuickTime and Windows Media Player. I would
not go with Real because a lot of people really dislike the client
and do not have it installed on their machines (me included and
I'm not going to install it whatever happens).

QuickTime seems to be the best served in the market at the
moment, but WMP seems to have a slightly better compression
scheme.

Most people swear by the Sorenson (3) codec under QuickTime.

Do some tests and see what you like! On our Lady X project
we used QuickTime with the previous version of the Sorenson
codec (check out the link in my signature).

Irbbins Biarrieta May 30th, 2004 12:46 PM

24p woes...
 
Rob, this is DSE's procedure for filmic look:
http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/tu...s/filmlook.htm

Actually, I've found the culprit!(and its accomplice--reading too fast and not following all directions) A part I glossed over, was disabling resampling on the video. At first, it didn't make a difference, but when I changed the deinterlacing method to interpolate frames---voila! No ugly motion trail!

It still looks like the bullet stuff has better resolution, I dunno.
Anything else I can do to get the best possible picture out of 24p and Vegas?

(By the way, loved the look of that Lady X episode! That thread on how you achieved the look was great help and guidance!)

Rob Lohman May 31st, 2004 04:17 AM

I'm glad you found the source of your problem. I don't have much
experience with de-interlacing myself since I always shoot in
progressive (or semi progressive with the XL1S). It is not really
suprising that the magic bullet stuff seems higher resolution. That
product was specifically made for things like this. Vegas just
added it. But if it is close to the magic bullet stuff then I'd say it
is doing a pretty good job!

Thank you for your comments on my episode. Much appreciated
and I'm glad you enjoyed it and the thread about it. Thanks!

Sunny Dhinsey June 1st, 2004 06:36 AM

I'm sure you've probably worked it out by now, but if not, you are missing the 'clip explorer' which you can reactivate from the drop down menu.

I figured it out (simple solution) a little while ago, but haven't been on the forum for some time.

Josh Bass June 1st, 2004 10:42 AM

Yeah, I did figure it out. I don't know how I made it disappear in the first place.

Edward Troxel June 1st, 2004 01:59 PM

Tsunami Update Available
 
Tsunami has been updated with the following corrections:

1. Extract Good Clips now works correctly when audio is selected.
NOTE: When extracting both audio and video, you will get TWO sub-clips placed in the media pool.
2. PIP tool now places the PIP in the proper location.

Send me an e-mail for details.

Dennis Vogel June 1st, 2004 02:09 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Aaron Koolen :Will have to take the gamble and hope I can use it's features in the future. -->>>

No need to gamble. Download the extensive description of the new features. Or, even better, download a demo version and try it out yourself.

Dennis Vogel

Brian Mitchell Warshawsky June 2nd, 2004 09:09 AM

Re-Render
 
>>>>Troxel One thing you may want to try is to render to a single DV-AVI file first, load that new file on the timeline of a new project, and then render that to whatever format you are wanting. >>>>
-----

Wouldn't this create a noticeable loss of resolution?

Brian

Edward Troxel June 2nd, 2004 09:29 AM

Re: Re-Render
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Brian Mitchell Warshawsky :
Wouldn't this create a noticeable loss of resolution?

Brian -->>>


No.

Sunny Dhinsey June 2nd, 2004 12:30 PM

You may have accidentally clicked the 'x' logo which closes the window :-)

Bryan Beasleigh June 2nd, 2004 04:33 PM

The scoop on Vegas5 books by DSE
 
I can't find much info on Instant Vegas 5. Is there enough of a difference to warrant another workbook? (from vegas 4 workbook to vegas 5 workbook)

Glen Elliott June 2nd, 2004 07:30 PM

"Record Time" in status bar?
 
What's the "record time" numbering in very bottom right of the screen in the status bar. Sometimes I have another # to the bottom left too. I'm sure it's something simple I just can't figure out what it stands for?!

Edward Troxel June 2nd, 2004 08:19 PM

The "record time" in the lower right-hand corner is the amount of audio you could record on the specified hard drive.

Glen Elliott June 3rd, 2004 04:46 AM

Cool thanks. Have any idea what the other number is...to the left side? I think it was entitled "completed: xxxx"

Edward Troxel June 3rd, 2004 07:10 AM

You sure it's not "Completed: xxx of xxx"?

I see that when there are some tasks being performed (such as when pre-rendering or doing a PTT or adding new files to the timeline and the "audio" image must be built). In that case, it's just an indicator of how many tasks there are to do and how many have been done.

Glen Elliott June 3rd, 2004 07:24 AM

Ahhh why thank you for your insite! Your as trusty as an encylopedia.


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