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Andy Shrimpton May 18th, 2004 12:15 AM

Part 2

Followed the links you posted, and will try online tonight. Stupidly tried snail mail to upgrade. Better get with the info age eh? :)

Thanks again for the help.

Andy

Jagodes Portugal May 18th, 2004 10:29 AM

New way to cut in vegas!!!!!!!!
 
Hello everyone, first of all i´m new in vegas ( i´ve used it for about 2 months ), i liked very much his software, but i want to discuss 2 matters that i´ve stuck in.

First of all my problem is " cutting ", from all the later software that i´ve used this one is a little bit tricky, the only thing that i want to do is devide the movie in two blocks, and then insert a transition or an effect in the middle of that 2 blocks.

When i use the cut in my movie, i select from the timeline the start point to the end point that i want to move for another track.

But when i do that the selected block from the timeline goes to the clipboard , and if a make another task it vanish from it.

So what can i do to insert a transition in a middle of one block of film. Is this possible?????????

Many thanks to all.

Edward Troxel May 18th, 2004 10:57 AM

Not sure I followed all of that. You have a single AVI file that you want to split and then dissolve between the two halves? If that's all, you simply need to put the cursor at the split point, press "S", and then move the second half so that it overlaps the first half for the length that you want the dissolve. No need to move to different tracks or copy to the clipboard.

Aaron J.H. Walker May 18th, 2004 11:48 AM

I will give them a call again about the rebates but I was wondering if anyone else had gotten it to work or are further along in the process?

Jay Mitchell May 18th, 2004 03:19 PM

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Andy Shrimpton May 18th, 2004 07:32 PM

More News
 
Hi Edward!

The second page of the link you gave states US residents only.

Hopefully Customer Service will come through for me.

Anyone else OS tried to get the Free Upgrade?

Cheers,

Andy

Edward Troxel May 18th, 2004 08:55 PM

I never tried the free upgrade (mine were purchased over a year ago :-)). Consequently, I never saw the second page. Your only option is a plea to Sony customer service.

Douglas Spotted Eagle May 19th, 2004 12:34 AM

Thank you Denver!
 
Had a great time in Denver, good groups at the free Sony event and at the VASST training day. Congrats to Scott W. who not only won the 64Bit Opteron from AMD, but the next day at the VASST training, he also took home an ADS Datatank. Whatta haul! Don, hope you love that new Vegas Bella keyboard!
Thanks to Don and Robert for staying after a bit to help Gary and I get packed so we could catch our very late flight to Chicago.
Looking forward to meeting many of you in Chicago and other cities. (and yes, we're giving away a 64bit Opteron in every city at the free Sony Software Media Showcase event, not to mention all the fun stuff from Artbeats, Pixelan, ADS, Sony, Hark Productions, ExpoDisk, Photoflex, Bella Keyboards, and VASST.

Nick Kerpchar May 19th, 2004 07:21 AM

Question for Douglas Spotted Eagle
 
Douglas,
Will you be publishing a new "Vegas 5 Editing Workshop", or would "Vegas 4 Editing Workshop" still be useful to a totally new user of Vegas 5 + DVD ?

Thanks, Nick

Glen Elliott May 19th, 2004 07:57 AM

Random frame that doesn't belong...
 
I think I asked Edward this before a while back but honestly don't remember what the response was. Anyway here's what I'm seeing:

After editing for a while from time to time I see a blip in the footage. Not knowing what it was I double back and go frame by frame over the section I saw the abnormality. I come to find its a single frame from another section of the clip- totally unrelated. For example I'll be editing the vows and see a frame from the front of the chapel.
I zoom all the way in so every thumbnail equals 1 frame and it doesn't show up yet when I move the timeline marker to that frame the odd frame is definitly there.
I've found the only way to remedy this is save my project, close Vegas, then reopen it. If I do that the odd frame is gone. I'll have to test in the future and render a section that shows an odd frame to see if it picks it up.

I used to experience this in Vegas 4 and now confirmed that it exists in Vegas 5. Has anyone else experienced this? What causes this? Can this be patched by Sony? Thanks in advance!

Randall Campbell May 19th, 2004 11:24 AM

I have seen this once in Vegas 4. Seems to be a hard bug to reproduce.

Jean-Philippe Archibald May 19th, 2004 11:40 AM

It also happened to me some times in Vegas 4. Haven't tried Vegas 5 yet.

Richard Alvarez May 19th, 2004 11:42 AM

Such "flash" frames can sometime crop up from your editing workflow. You think you've trimmed a clip at the end, when actually you've left a single frame outside your edit point. That orphan frame gets pushed and slipped around your timeline as you continue to edit, winding up at seemingly random points.

AVID has a "Find flash frame" feature, that searches your timeline for a single stray frame. Anything like that in Vegas?

Michael Mirochnik May 19th, 2004 12:14 PM

Vegas and mpeg transport
 
The new Vegas 5.0 could generate transport files m2v. Is this format can be used for transport to write on JVC HD cameras and D-VHS.

Glen Elliott May 19th, 2004 01:52 PM

If that were so, saving the project, shutting down Vegas- reloading Vegas and the project wouldn't fix it...which it always does.

Edward Troxel May 19th, 2004 02:19 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Richard Alvarez : AVID has a "Find flash frame" feature, that searches your timeline for a single stray frame. Anything like that in Vegas? -->>>


Not built-in. But it COULD be scripted!

Gavin Stokes May 19th, 2004 04:20 PM

Did they fix this in Vegas 5?
 
Hi all.

I was ready to make Vegas 4 my main editor, but was disappointed at a couple of basic features that were missing. Can anyone tell me if the following items have been resolved in version 5?

First, there was no way to export frames. I found it hard to believe that you couldn't export a region of your timeline as a series of full-resolution still frames. I don't think I've ever seen a real editing app that didn't allow this.

Second, Vegas failed to display material on an external monitor when playing back material on a system with a high-quality capture board in it. I have Matrox M-JPEG material on a system containing a DigiSuite LE. Gadzooks, even the lowly (and free) Media Player automatically plays back properly on the monitor, without any fussing. My guess is that the codec handles this and the developer gets it free, which makes the Vegas situation all the more baffling. The problem led me to believe that Vegas is inadequate for anything better than DV footage, since you can't preview it.

Are users of higher-than-DV-quality hardware out of luck with Vegas?

On a positive note, I did some tests that indicated Vegas does not recompress intraframe-compressed material (like M-JPEG). Has anyone else tested this?

Also, Vegas 4's preview playback is much smoother and better than Premiere Pro's. Premiere Pro appears to be just as Scotch-taped together as ever, frequently failing to update the on-screen images at all.

Thanks!

Gavin

Rob Lohman May 19th, 2004 04:26 PM

1) vegas did support exporting still frames, although you would
need a script to do it (which Vegas delivered with the package).
It is a slow option though. To the best of my knowledge Vegas 5
still has no frame export under file export.

2) windows media player isn't doing anything at all. The MJPEG
codec of your board is doing all the hard work. This codec is the
one that is outputting the footage through your board, not
mediaplayer or any other application.

Vegas is indeed primarely a (H)DV application. It will work with
a lot of other files but to the best of my knowledge will only
preview over firewire since this is the most common available
board.

I don't think Vegas 5 will solve your issues although you can use
a frame export script for your first point. Anyway, the best thing
you can probably do is simply check out the demo.

Federico Dib May 20th, 2004 11:06 AM

Stutter
 
Hi,
I´ve been editing a lot on Vegas without much real problems (if any at all)...
For my PC specs.. Vegas flies... it´s what made me decide fot it.

BUt today I opened a project I was working on a few days ago and the Playback preview looks all stuttery like if I was watching a movie on a 56k modem... even if I put Draft mode...

Actually I just noticed that most of my captured (from vegas) video stutters on WMPlayer... but not on old already rendered and exported videos from Vegas.

Is this just a defrag issue? (it says 30% fragmented)..

I have plenty of space on the Hard Drives so that´s not an issue.

I´m doing the defrag tonite to see if this is it.. but If anyone has any other advice...

Shane Schmidt May 20th, 2004 11:18 AM

Vegas & SmartSound
 
I spoke with a tech support guy at Smartsound to ask if there are any plans for making a version that works in Vegas. He had not yet heard whether or not this would happen (you would think...).

He did say that in the pro version there is a plug-in that exports to Vegas.

Does anyone here have any experience with this?

Thanks in advance.


Oh yeah, I have a 30 sec commercial running on our local TV channels and am currently working an a 70 minute big game hunt video for a prominent booking agent, big thanks to the group here for all your technical support!

Shane

Philippe Gosselin May 20th, 2004 12:52 PM

Thx Michael , I found it :)

Philippe Gosselin May 20th, 2004 12:59 PM

incorporating pattern over old film look
 
Hi all,




I am doing a sequence that looks like a really old film , back then when they had to put text on a black screen (between shots) they usually put beautiful pattern above and below the text.

Anybody knows a way to do that

thx a million.

Gavin Stokes May 20th, 2004 03:06 PM

strange
 
Thanks for the info, Rob. I guess I'll keep Premiere installed for frame export. They really should add this to Vegas, though. You can't ask for a much simpler feature.

>2) windows media player isn't doing anything at all. The MJPEG
codec of your board is doing all the hard work.

Exactly. Thus my comment about Vegas's inability to play it back to the monitor, and my assumption that Vegas must be putting everything in the timeline into some intermediate format or cache for playback.

It's too bad that so many editing apps these days are setting their sights so low in terms of quality. Downgrading everything to DV is anything but "pro". That's fine for home movies, but there are lots of Matrox and Targa boards out there that do better.

Regards,
Gavin

Shane Schmidt May 20th, 2004 05:27 PM

Movie Looks for Vegas?
 
Just recieved my upgrade to V5, installed Boris G LTD and then attempted to install the Movie Looks for Vegas program and got this error;

LoadLibrary("C:\Program Files\Movie Looks for Vegas\MovieLooks.dll") failed - The specified module could not be found.

I uninstalled it and tried again but with the same results.

Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks in advance.

Shane

Federico Dib May 20th, 2004 05:57 PM

Defragmentation didn´t do it... Still choppy playback.

Summarizing... anything I´ve captured with Vegas is playing choppy either on the Preview or in any other MEdia Player...

But stuff rendered with vegas plays ok in Vegas and in WMPlayer..

Any idea?

John Hudson May 20th, 2004 08:00 PM

I think I know what you are talking about...

Kind of a 'calligraphy' looking 'fountain pen' squirl? (That is my technical speak)

My best guess is to do it Photoshop and then import it.

Andy Shrimpton May 20th, 2004 08:24 PM

Vegas Updates
 
Hello All!

I purchased Vegas 4.0 during the timeframe where you get the free update to 5.0.

The fine print read that this upgrade offer was only available to residents of the U.S.A.

After contacting Sony, and emailing a scanned copy of my invoice, Sony have decided to honour the offer to me, (possibly after I pointed out that the downloaded version was all I required - saving postage).

So

THANK YOU & WELL DONE SONY!

Excellent customer service, in keeping with what I'd heard!

So, I'm off tonight to enjoys the dial up load down of Vegas 5!

Thanks also to Edward for the usual quick and helpful reponses.

Andy

Andy Shrimpton May 20th, 2004 08:28 PM

Updating to Vegas+DVD 5.0
 
Hi All!

I'm about to update to Vegas 5 from Vers 4.

Anything I need to know or do before hand to ensure this goes smoothly?

If it is relevent:

Win XP Pro
Celeron 2.8 Mhz
1 Gb of RAM
1 x 160 Gb HD
1 x 80 Gb HD

Any tips much appreciated.

Andy

Philippe Gosselin May 20th, 2004 08:38 PM

Well John , you read my mind.

Don't have photoshop (don't tell me i have to leanr ANOTHER program hihihihi)

Guess i got my first reason to get

thx

Phil

Shane Schmidt May 20th, 2004 09:27 PM

Found it
 
Nevermind, I found the fix for this, there is a new installer available.

Let me know if anyone needs the link.

Edward Troxel May 20th, 2004 09:55 PM

Congratulations. Glad to hear they honored the offer - even when they had the right not to do so.

Edward Troxel May 20th, 2004 09:56 PM

Just install 5.0a and have fun!

Rob Lohman May 21st, 2004 05:26 AM

What is SmartSound?

Jim Quinlan May 21st, 2004 06:30 AM

Yes, please post the link. It happened to me also but was too busy and forgot to go back and address it. Thanks

Rob Lohman May 21st, 2004 06:40 AM

That is simply a market that Vegas is not appealing to at the
moment I think. Although they do support HDV and native HD
resolutions and such. They just do not support it on their preview
out.

Vegas does not use an intermediate version. It simply outputs
the video signal over firewire, that is all. I just looked in the
preferences (under options) and you can set which Video standard
it should use under Video Devices. If you set that to Video for
Windows and then select your MJPEG driver it might still work?
Give that a try.

Again, it does have frame export. Only through scripting (they
deliver the script to do this).

Rob Lohman May 21st, 2004 06:55 AM

Any chance you changed the whole track to minor slowmotion for
example? Or that you have external preview turned on without
an external preview device present? In my experience external
preview slows anything down anyway.

Perhaps you changed some project setting by accident?

Edward Troxel May 21st, 2004 07:17 AM

I believe it's on both the Sony and Magic Bullet web sites.

Philip Boyer May 21st, 2004 07:37 AM

http://www.smartsound.com/

Federico Dib May 21st, 2004 07:50 AM

I´m afraid my findings are not good...
I´ve found that if I move the video files to another Hard Drive they play smoothly..

So I guess my HD is the problem?

Douglas Spotted Eagle May 21st, 2004 09:01 AM

Much of Vegas 4 book is relevant to Vegas 5, but there is a Vegas 5 book that has been turned into the publisher too. Plus we have our Instant Series book on Vegas coming soon too.


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