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Douglas Spotted Eagle May 21st, 2004 09:02 AM

Thank you Chicago, enjoyed meeting you!
 
There are images of the Chicago VASST posted on the VASST site for those that would like to view them. We had a camera malfunction in Denver, no pix from there.


Great classes, fun days, good energy from all. We had a great time there both at the Sony Event and the VASST Day event. Tomorrow is the ACID event with Jeffrey P. Fisher.

Congrats to the winners of the Bella keyboards, Hark Production
loops, Artbeats footage, ADS Tank, Neon/Excalibur, VASST DVDs,
Pixelan SpiceFilters. Looking forward to seeing more of you down the road, LA is next. Looking forward to meeting the SCVUG folks!


http://www.vasst.com/tourstops/tourpix.htm

Shane Schmidt May 21st, 2004 09:33 AM

Link
 
Here is where I found it (the fix worked btw).

http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/vegassupport.html

Shane Schmidt May 21st, 2004 09:47 AM

Custom soundtracks
 
Its a custom soundtrack generator.

Josh Bass May 21st, 2004 12:42 PM

capture utility is being weird. . .or maybe I am
 
For some reason, when I start up the Vegas capture utility recently, there's nothing on the bottom half of the window. What I mean is, normally there's a white space that shows all the clips you've logged, and now, It's just a blank grey expanse. Also, when I mark an in and an out, and then click "log in/out", nothing happens. What'd I do?

Sunny Dhinsey May 21st, 2004 02:45 PM

Don't know if this will help, but try 'dragging' the bottom half of the grey expanse upwards. Place you cursor at the bottom and see if a double arrow resizer appears, if so drag it up, if not - then I'm as lost as you are!

Sunny Dhinsey May 21st, 2004 02:59 PM

Don't know if this is really acceptable, but you could even do the pattern in something like the standard Windows 'Paint' program (assuming you have a Windows based PC) over a coloured background (like blue for example) and then use the chroma keyer in Vegas to remove the blue if need be.

I only use Photoshop when preparing images etc for Vegas and I have never tried it with Windows Paint, so can't comment on its effectiveness, but I am certain that Windows Paint does not give you templates for matching video aspect ratio!

I might give it a try for myself!

I've probably confused you even more, but thought I would add my input!

Colin Rayner May 21st, 2004 06:06 PM

Speaking of music generators for Vegas, does anyone know of any others that are compatible?

Gavin Stokes May 21st, 2004 09:21 PM

Hi Rob.

Yeah, I tried the Video for Windows settings and picked the Matrox driver, but no dice. That's what's baffling, because as we both noted, the codec's doing the work.

If Vegas is not converting to an internal format for placement in the timeline (as FCP does), then they're transcoding on the fly for DV output through FireWire.

Regards,
Gavin

Josh Bass May 21st, 2004 10:23 PM

Thanks. I'll try it.

Jim Lafferty May 22nd, 2004 11:52 AM

Acid?

Jim Lafferty May 22nd, 2004 11:57 AM

Somewhat related -- there's talk of Zenote releasing a suite of Magic Bullet-like movie looks.

If you haven't already, I suggest you give their "Glow" filter a look -- at $30, combine it with judicious use of the Color Curves and Color Corrector, and you've got yourself a very good look setup.

Combine it further with color overlays, luma masks... there's no reason to care much about MB, and plenty of reasons to drop their render times.

- jim

Peter Jefferson May 22nd, 2004 01:22 PM

acids more of a looping tool and multitracker than an actual generator..

John Hudson May 22nd, 2004 04:05 PM

You might not even need any software. Perhaps search the net for jpegs or designs you are looking for?

Jim Lafferty May 22nd, 2004 09:35 PM

Ah, thanks for making that distinction clear...

Harry Settle May 22nd, 2004 10:14 PM

You are going to have a ball, after you get over the initial shock of the transition.

Want to have more fun? Consider dumping the Celeron for a system with hyperthreading, it will make a big diff in rendering times with V5.

Rob Lohman May 23rd, 2004 06:46 AM

That could be. It might be something as simple as you not having
turned on DMA for that drive. Or you need to defrag. But it can
also be more serious in that the drive is failing.

Is there another device on the same channel (cable) as the drive?

Rob Lohman May 23rd, 2004 07:18 AM

Yes, if you have external monitor on it is doing on the fly DV
encoding before sending it over the firewire channel.

Love Mov May 23rd, 2004 10:21 AM

Use Frameserver rendering across network?
 
How one render to a file in shared directory, and use another networked PC gets input from that file? Seems I can't make it work, either render to local or remote PC. Any trick, oe maybe it doesn't even supported? Thanks.

Imran Zaidi May 23rd, 2004 11:50 AM

Big Thanks to Edward from Orlando
 
A big thank you to Edward Troxel for a great evening with Vegas on Friday night here in downtown Orlando. We covered a lot of ground, from the Zenote plugins to Edward's Excalibur/Tsunami/Neon plugins to a deep look into some of the new features of Vegas 5.0.

It was a great environment of sharing and mutual problem solving, mixed in with just some good old fashioned get-to-knows.

Thanks to everybody that came out, and thanks again Edward. People pay a lot of money for the expertise and knowhow you brought to the meeting, and you shared it with us for free.

Thanks all!

Jeff Donald May 23rd, 2004 12:25 PM

I'm sorry I missed the show. I had an inkjet printing workshop to present the next day and with the travel time and all I didn't think it would work out. If you have another meeting I would love to know about it.

Nick Kerpchar May 23rd, 2004 01:01 PM

Douglas,
Thanks for the reply. I know that you are on the road doing training so I appreciate your taking the time. T.J. also sent me an email in response to my question and I appreciate that very much as well. Looks like I'll make the leap to Vegas 5 + DVD now that I know your books will be coming in the near future.

Thanks again, Nick

Stephen Sobel May 23rd, 2004 06:40 PM

Orange tint problem
 
I'm working on a project - and I have one clip that has a bit of an orange tint. Is there a way in Vegas to change the color to something more natural looking?

Mike Moncrief May 23rd, 2004 07:14 PM

Hello,

I second that Thanks to Edward, and thanks to you Imran for providing the nice conference room and projector for our informal get together..Also thanks to Aaron Hurley for showing his Zenote plug-ins..I was impressed with Edwards knowldege and plug-ins.. And also impressed with the overall knowledge of the group.. I am a fairly new user of Vegas..(got onboard in version 4) and learned a few little tips that are invaluable..

keep in touch
Thanks,

Mike Moncrief

Guy Bruner May 23rd, 2004 07:47 PM

Try the video FXes, Color Corrector and Secondary Color Corrector.

Stephen Sobel May 23rd, 2004 07:51 PM

I tried that. My choices seem to be keeping the orange tint, or getting another tint such as purple or green. I realize I'm a rookie at this, but is there a way to reduce or eliminate the orange for a more natural color - without exchanging one tint for another.

Peter Moore May 23rd, 2004 08:29 PM

Pan / Crop in 5.0
 
Did they totally screw up this tool or am I a moron?

I try to change the width, and it just snaps to whatever the hell it feels like. I've unchecked Maintain Aspect, Stretch to Frame, etc. Still has a mind of its own.

Guy Bruner May 23rd, 2004 08:57 PM

Try BillyBoy's tutorial on getting rid of a color cast.

Edward Troxel May 23rd, 2004 09:58 PM

This is a known problem. I would expect it to be fixed soon but can make no guarantees. I'm not sure what the story is but it has been reported by multiple people.

Edward Troxel May 23rd, 2004 10:02 PM

It was a great evening. I'd like to thank everyone for coming. Maybe you all can start an Orlando area user's group. (I have e-mail addresses for everyone who attended)

Rob Lohman May 24th, 2004 01:37 AM

Frameserving should only work on your local machine. Are you
saying you cannot get LOCAL frameserving to work? If so,
please state the following:

1. program you are frameserving to

2. things you are doing exactly (also where you are writing the file to and what name you've given it)

3. errors messages etc. you get

Allan Phan May 24th, 2004 06:45 AM

Picture jumping up and down in Vegas 5
 
Hello fellow Vegaser:

I just purchase Vegas 5+DVD and tried to render some clip but run into a small problem and that is when I tried to render a clip with Mpeg 2, DVDNTSC, “GOOD” quality and use Architect 2 to make a DVD the clip looks great with no problem.

When I render that same clip with Mpeg2, DVDNTSC with “BEST” quality then use Architect 2 to make a DVD, the clip slightly jump up and down from beginning to end even thought it appear to be fine when I play it back with WMP right after rendering. Am I doing something wrong? Can some one help me fix this issue.

Dylan Couper May 24th, 2004 08:22 AM

Text/fonts in Vegas
 
The only part of Vegas I find really lacking is the fon't/text department. It reminds me of cheap $80 text generators that you can buy for your old Hi-8 camera from Radio Shack.

Now this may just be me, but I'm not impressed. I was wondering if anyone out there has some examples of awsome stuff you can do with titles and text on the web?

Also, is there a way to load new fonts into the program?

Has this been improved any with Vegas 5?

Ryan Gohlinghorst May 24th, 2004 09:37 AM

Vegas can use any True Type fonts that you have installed on your machine. Just search the web for fonts that you like and install them. You'll then have them automatically available for use in Vegas.

Peter Moore May 24th, 2004 10:28 AM

Thanks, that's a relief it's not my fault. :)

Peter Moore May 24th, 2004 10:30 AM

Bug in Vegas 4/5 with Huff YUV Codec
 
Very serious bug you all need to be aware of.

When taking source material that is compressed with Huff YUV, Vegas sometimes drops frames and they appear as black. At first I thought I was dropping frames at capture time, but no, it only happens when I try to import source huff yuv material (that I IVTC'd in VirtualDub) back into Vegas. Frames are dropped totally at random.

Glen Elliott May 24th, 2004 10:44 AM

Edward you seem to be pretty well cued into the "known-problems". There was an issue I brought up that you explained was a known problem as well. Would you mind compiling a small list of the known problems? That people can check the list before feverishly posting here for answers...like Peter and I both did.

Peter Moore May 24th, 2004 10:50 AM

The burner is out, the media is not. As for an NLE that supports it, you don't need one. All you need is an authoring tool that will let you make projects bigger than 4.7 GB, and the bundled Nero software that does burn to DL disks.

I have no idea how the layer break is handled though. Hopefully media will be out soon so we can find out.

Emre Safak May 24th, 2004 11:20 AM

It is so easy with the Color Corrector. Just use Choose Complementary Color (the left dropper) to render a target neutral.

Jay Mitchell May 24th, 2004 11:41 AM

Sony Media Software Showcase - Today!
 
Just a reminder that the Sony Media Software Showcase will be happening today in Southern California. Come meet Douglas Spotted Eagle and Gary Kleiner at this free event.

Date: Monday - May 24th, 2004

Times: 2:30 to 5:30 p.m. and 6:30 to 9:30 p.m.

Where: Radisson Hotel
6161 Centinela Ave.
Culver City, CA 90230

Phone: 310-649-1776


Jay Mitchell
SCVUG Host

Lars Siden May 24th, 2004 01:50 PM

Scripting in vegas 5 ( Edward... :-)
 
Hi Guys,

I do work as a professional software developer - but I must say that I feel rather stupid when it comes down to writing scripts!

I'm use to working in C#/C/C++ - in the longest I've avoided scripts ( except silly ones for webpages )

Last night I was looking through the example scripts and stuff for Vegas and now I feel like doing some on my own... some questions though:

1. How do I debug them? Or can't I? I can't compile the scripts outside Vegas - casue then "Vegas" is unknown

2. No luck attaching the CLR-debugger ( dbgclr )

3. Which editor do you use? I thought Visual Studio 2003 should be fine - but it gives very ample support for writing JScripts.

4. Is it possible to instantiate a "new Vegas"-object? Object browser tells me that it is a public class...but when I try I get an error telling me it is private... shoule be fun to make c# extensions for Vegas ... I've done some extensions for photoshop - where you just new the Photoshop.applicationobject and of you go!

Ok, lots of thechnical talk here - hope to get some response!

TIA!

// Lazze


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