Boris Red?

speeding up footage
 

I noticed that Vegas "maxes out" when speeding up playback rate at 4.000. Is there any way to increase the speed? Thanks

Options > Preferences > Editing > JKL shuttle speed. Set to max. You'll get x20 playback.

Hrmmm for some reason im actually not getting faster speeds. am i doing something wrong?

I have a 25 second clip and cant get it down to faster than a 5 second clip w/ or w/out JKL speed at MAX. i need something REAALLY fast. Guess i'll have to go to after effects

Are you trying to make the finished video go faster, is that what you're saying? I thought you were talking about playback as in preview as i JKL.

When you hit the ceiling you can render to avi and put the rendered event on your timeline, then speed it up once more. You can do this several times.

Dan,

1 - JKL keys are for previewing. Not for finished products. If you want to preview stuff then use the advice given above. I can Preview at 20x realtime. The sound dissapears at around 4x . . little loss as the audio would be . .well senseless . .

2 - Vegas can do what you want. Use the velo envelopes. There's been a vary recent post on how to achieve rates higher than 300% > > 1000% and onwards if you wanted...


If you want to go to AE, that's your decision . . But Sony_vegas will do it . .and you can also do it in reverse . .if your fancy took you . .

Grazie

Depending on what you want there is Tsunami,Excalibur,Neon and some great stuff by Satish at debugmode.com which are all free. Satish writes these on his own time for all of us and has some cool stuff. Also try sundancemediagroup.com for some really cool veg files. You have to register but its free and no junk comes to you. (thank you Spot)
All depends on what you want but there is a lot of good stuff for Vegas out there.

Don

Vegas employs .NET framework to allow for an open source type scripting, for others to create scripts - oh yes there is a scripting forum. These scripts do the most amazing things . .and yes Excalibur, Tsunami and Neon utilize these scripts. Now we start cooking beacuse there is a WHOLE load of scripts that can add wonderful creative options for Vegas.

Now . .try this out . .you may have to register . .no bad thing . but then you'll JUST see what is possible - yeah:

http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/he..._tutorials.asp

. . have fun . . lots to see and do . ..

Grazie

That's because it is 29.97 fps. Simple answer. ALL DV is at the
DV framerate of 29.97 (59.94i) for NTSC or 25 (50i) for PAL.

Your 24p footage is being processed with a pulldown to create
29.97 footage. If you set your Vegas project to the correct
24p setting it will auto undo this for you.

No worries, you won't get any picture degrading because of this.
This is the way it is supposed to be!

There is an official 24p White Paper out that you can get here.

Please read that!

Thanks Don,

I tried your suggestion last evening and MyDVD balked at trying
to 'get movie'. It immediately issued an error message, "could not complete the last command because: use of invalid editor; File Reference;;FileReferenceEditorBase". Has this worked for you?

I'm contacting Sonic for their solution. but I'd still appreciate any known solutions.

Thanks, Joseph

Joseph,
I really don't use MyDVD anymore (I use 2 other programs) but I just tried it again to see if I could duplicate the problem you're having and I couldn't. I've been able to pickup all my AVI's with the get movie command.
I'm not at all familiar with the error message you're getting, perhaps the Sonic forum might be able to help better.
Don

Using CTRL-Drag, you can get a 4x speed increase. With a velocity envelope, you can get a 3x speed increase. Combine the two and you can get up to 12x. If you need faster than that, render at 12x and then speed up the new clip again.

There are lots of plugins for Vegas. For example:

Pixelan - a great dissolve enhancer and also provides other effects.
Boris RED/FX/Graffiti - Works directly from the timeline and is similar to AE in abilities.
Zenote - a series of plugins derived from FilmFX by BigFX.

Naturally, don't want to forget plugs by Satish and SDMoore or Excalibur, Tsunami, and Neon. Here's several links:

http://www.jetdv.com/tsunami
http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com
http://www.zenote.com
http://www.borisfx.com
http://www.pixelan.com
http://www.debugmode.com
http://www.endor.demon.co.uk/
http://flash.to/rmtools/
http://mikecrash.wz.cz/vegas/vegas.htm
http://www.adorage.de/gb/index.html

Before switching to DVD Architect, I used to use MPEG2 files from Vegas in MyDVD's big brother - DVDit. Vegas will make DVD legal MPEGs assuming the MPEG options are set correctly. Just make sure the options are set in such a way that MyDVD will be happy.

Ok so all i did was just change the timeline marker into 24p is there anyother changes i need to make to vegas to edit correctly in 24p?

I shoot with a DVX100 as well- what was it originally shot in...24p or 24pA? If it's just 24p you should edit like normal without choosing the 24p template. If you shot in 24pA you need to select the Vegas 24p template, make sure all prerenders are 2-3-3-2 and final output is 2-3. The whitepaper link Rob posted explains it all.

My DVD
 

I use it almost every day by rendering to MPEG2 in Vegas, then pulling it down to MyDVD as original.

It also works by rendering to .avi, then letting MyDVD pull it to a MPEG2.

Did you try uninstall then reinstall (always a last resort but works sometimes)

Vegas plugins?
 

What major 3rd party effects generator( Boris Red, Pinnacle FXGold etc.) works with Vegas 4.0? Thats the only thing I think that really limits Vegas is the lack of 3rd party support that PPro and Avid has. The transitions selection in vegas are limited as well. What do you Vegas pros think?

Thanks everyone,

I haven't solved the problem yet, but I'm convinced it is a problem with my implementation. I have MyDVD version 4.5 and it came installed from Dell. I will try the uninstall and re-install as suggested.

Prior to buying Vegas 4, I used Pinnacle Studio 7 (yuk). I had the same problem with MyDVD. I attributed the problem to Pinnacle since I couldn't always get a clean MPEG render with their software. Now that I have Vegas and alwyas get a great MPEG2 render, I began to suspect MyDVD as the problem. I really appreciate all the feedback.

Joseph

Boris has a filter set out for Vegas, not sure which one. But check
their website. I'm not sure about others. Vegas only got a lot
of attention recently (when comparing to the timeline of other
NLE's like Premiere and Avid) and I wouldn't be surprised if more
stuff will start to emerge slowly. It's always a demand and supply
issue.

Almost no professional is using transitions because they almost
always look cheesy. If you really need some interesting transition
you can make one yourself with photoshop (don't forget to use
the alpha channels) and gradients in Vegas.

Thanks for your help guys! Looks like i can use vegas after all :)

Boris RED
Boris FX
Boris Graffiti

I just gave a large list of links in this thread

Since you have Vegas, you may want to consider DVD Architect.

Edward,

Thank you for releasing the beta RC3 version of your film look plugin. Pretty cool.

Vegas then After effects for 24p?
 

since After Effects doesnt support the 24p pulldown, do i have to import my footage into Vegas, apply the pulldown, save AVI's and then edit like normal in After Effects? I'm a newbie so excuse me if i dont know what im talking about. Thanks.

This thread may be of help.

According to this, Vegas drops frames to achieve 24p.

perhaps i should clarify... the video will be shot at 24pA with my DVX100

vegas transitions
 

I love vegas because its so rock solid and PPro does have crash issues. Actually a lot of my clients for the wedding videos I do love the cheesy wedding transitions and since I'm always juggling 10 clients at once its a lot easier popping in some pre-made trans then having to spend hours making one. You can't tell me you never use a simple cross dissolve? Of course in my corporate videos I never bother with trans either.

I CAN say that 99.9% of my wedding transitions are crossfades. Very rarely I'll use a flash transition and even more rarely something like a page curl.

No problem. Also thanks to Dave ("filmy") for creating the install program and looks.

trans in Vegas
 

Yeah I use about 80 percent fades, then a lot of quick cuts, I like to use an imaginative trans at title sequences for small vignettes I produce inside the project. I think just sticking to one thing throughtout ie direct cuts makes the wedding video a bit boring. I try to make it like an action video when producing a wedding, I want people to want to watch it more then once as in most weddings all people want to see is the rings, kiss, and the crazy drunken dancing at the end. How many of your own friends have you tortured with your own wedding video, not people want to watch you greet your ten thousand cousins!? Of course it starts with good shots!

Discovered super process to give my footage a unique "look"
 

First off, this maybe somewhat old news...but maybe it may not be for others.

I shoot with a XL1s and at times due to no control over lighting (weddings...etc), the footage is less than ideal. Vegas does a fairly good job getting rid of the video noise...but in spite of NUMEROUS configurations, I never got the "Look" I desired. Well... I finally found a somewhat simple process to REALLY clean up less-than-ideal lighted footage and give it a unique look.

I simply frame serve out to Virtual dub and
use Donald Graft's Smart Smooth Filter (http://neuron2.net/). Try it...you may be blown away as I was the first time using it.....

Donald's got some nice papers archived in the Library of his site.

Those looking for the filters will find them under the Mine section. (It took me a few minutes to figure this out.)

Best Quicktime import settings?
 

Is anybody familiar with which Quicktime settings are best for importing into Vegas? I'm attempting to rebuild a project from FCP and would like to lay a Quicktime output from FCP under the EDL I already brought in, to use as my guide tracks for laying in the Vegas media files.

When doing a Quicktime output from FCP the optional settings include everything from "video" to Uncompressed (8 bit or 10 bit) to MPEG-4 to Sorenson Video (reg or 3) to DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, and more.

Thing is, I may just use it as a guide track then chuck it, in which case the settings are all that critical, but there is one piece of footage that I'd thrown into this project from a tape that I can't find, in which case, for that piece, the best settings I can come up with to blend with the other DVX footage could matter a great deal.

As always, any insights anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Marcia

Thanks Robert for posting the link to Don's filters....I'm so used to navigating his website that I forgot it might be difficult on first visit....

if the original clips are dv/dvcam 25 .. then ouput from FCP as ntsc Dv/ dvcam ( not dvcpro 50 ) ...

Shuttle Pro question
 

This controller looks awfully cool, and it just might let me program the buttons to take care of some of the shortcuts I'd like to set up. But do I have to unplug the regular mouse to use it? (The back of my machine is very un-handy.) Would it cause system confusion to have them both plugged in at the same time?

You can have both the mouse and the shuttle pro attached at the same time. I frequently use the shuttle pro in the left hand while using the mouse in the right hand. It works well with Vegas.

Great! Thanks, Edward. Again.

Will order one tomorrow.

Do you have any before and after pictures of footage processed
with it, Mark?

(I've seen the ones on the site, but I'd like to see some in full
resolution of DV footage).