RAM render falters . . ? at DVinfo.net

Graham Bernard · December 16th, 2004, 08:21 AM

Try this one for size ! ! ! !

1/- Put a Jpeg on a t/l

2/- Pan/Crop a couple of rotations

3/- Select Event

4/- Build Ram PV

5/- I get 2 frames.

. .. here's the killer .. . please try it to confirm I'm NOT going bonkers . ..

6/- Copy the same event with the rotations in it.

7/- Paste back somewhere on Time Line

8/ NOW Build Ram PV! .. .

GOT IT!

9/- Go back and try and Build Ram PV . .result? Only 2 frames . .. weird!

Grazie . . taking medication . . .

Rob Lohman · December 21st, 2004, 04:57 AM

I was trying to do this as well, but got two questions for you:

1. which exact version of Vegas? (I'm using 5.0b)

2. what is the exact name of the function you are using for rendering previews, because I've got (under Tools menu):

- Preview in Player
- Selectively Prerender Video
- Build Dynamic RAM Preview (grayed out here)

3. what are your project settings you are using?

Graham Bernard · December 21st, 2004, 07:11 AM

"I was trying to do this as well, but got two questions for you: " well actually you've possited 3 in total HAHAHA! ! !!

OK:

1. "which exact version of Vegas? (I'm using 5.0b)" 5.0b Build 160

2. Build Dynamic RAM Preview - NOT greyed out here.

3. "what are your project settings you are using? "

PAL-DV; 720x576; 1000mb for RAM Preview; Frame Rate 25.00 (PAL) . . .anything else?

Grazie

Rob Lohman · December 21st, 2004, 07:20 AM

I'm sorry but I seem unable to test this. My dynamic RAM preview
stays greyed out (yes, I increased the memory it could use for
this to 512 MB). I've never used the feature before either, so I
have no real clue as to what is going on....

Charley Gallagher · December 26th, 2004, 12:37 PM

I was going to post a question about why sometimes I go to RAM render and I end up rendering only a few frames or so when I saw this post. Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't work at all. I have 1.5 Gigs of RAM.

I see no relation between when it does and when it doesn't.

I will sit back and see if someone joins in with a solution.

Rob Lohman · December 29th, 2004, 06:22 AM

Do you have any ideas Edward?

Graham Bernard · December 29th, 2004, 07:59 AM

Charley & Rob - thanks for showing the interest .. . All we need is to wake up Edward and we could play some Holiday Bridge. 2 Clubs . ..

But yes, I get 2 frames and then it falters. Copy and paste it down the T/L and it works nice as pie.

. .. Grazie

Edward Troxel · December 29th, 2004, 08:55 AM

Obviously it's telling Grazie that the picture doesn't belong there. Instead he should be placing it farther down the timeline! :-)

So, Grazie, what's the footage you SHOULD be placing at that location???? :-)

Honestly have no idea why ram render would not work for the same image in one location but work in another. I almost never use ram render anyway. Does a full render work there? Or a pre-render? Or a render to new track?

Graham Bernard · December 29th, 2004, 10:27 AM

Hiyah Edward,

. . hold on just firing up the MONSTA! . . I'm really suffering with a nasty sore throat .. anybody got an OLD time relief remedy? . . Okay . . MONSTA! is awake . . grabbing hold of Vegas . . New Project . .

"Does a full render work there?" Yes.

"Or a pre-render?" Yes.

"Or a render to new track?" - Yes.

Repeating experiment . .

1/- FXs aren't the culprit

2/- BUT when I use P/C and try and RAM Render = 2 frames!

3/- Just copied this same event further dpwn the T/L and RAM render works!

4/- Now stick another FX on this P/C and it works too!

Throat still sore . . I'll be on pain killers in a couple of minutes. Don't wanna touch Penicilin quite yet .. .

Grazie

Edward Troxel · December 29th, 2004, 11:14 AM

WHERE on the timeline?

The only thing you added is Pan/Crop?

What if one of US tries the VEG (you just would need to tell us the timecode range to ram render)?

Graham Bernard · December 29th, 2004, 11:30 AM

. . sorry Edward . . just repeating . .

1/- Event STARTS at 00:00 total length 00:00:18.02 sec AVI

2/- P/C introduced 00:12 . .simple move right

3/- This works in Preview .. BUT!

4/- Highlight as per doing a RAM render, I get 3 frames and then it faulters ..

5/- Copy the same Event and Paste to around 00:01:00 . .ie 1 min marker . .and RAM renders work!

6/- NOW delete original EVENT at 00:00:00 and PASTE back the COPIED event and this now works at 00:00:00

Totally weird!

p.s. I do have 1gig of RAM given over to RAM renders

Grazie

Edward Troxel · December 29th, 2004, 01:04 PM

Very strange. Tried to do something similar here - didn't get it to fail.

Graham Bernard · December 29th, 2004, 02:51 PM

Oh . . .. . ?

Now, look over my shoulder and you'll see what I mean .. .See! There it is again!

Grazie

Edward Troxel · December 29th, 2004, 03:01 PM

Darn, I must have blinked.

Graham Bernard · December 29th, 2004, 03:05 PM

. . .I can do it at the drop of a hat . . and again! . .and again! . . . .

December 16th, 2004, 08:21 AM	#1
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	RAM render falters . . ? Try this one for size ! ! ! ! 1/- Put a Jpeg on a t/l 2/- Pan/Crop a couple of rotations 3/- Select Event 4/- Build Ram PV 5/- I get 2 frames. . .. here's the killer .. . please try it to confirm I'm NOT going bonkers . .. 6/- Copy the same event with the rotations in it. 7/- Paste back somewhere on Time Line 8/ NOW Build Ram PV! .. . GOT IT! 9/- Go back and try and Build Ram PV . .result? Only 2 frames . .. weird! Grazie . . taking medication . . .

December 21st, 2004, 04:57 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I was trying to do this as well, but got two questions for you: 1. which exact version of Vegas? (I'm using 5.0b) 2. what is the exact name of the function you are using for rendering previews, because I've got (under Tools menu): - Preview in Player - Selectively Prerender Video - Build Dynamic RAM Preview (grayed out here) 3. what are your project settings you are using? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 21st, 2004, 07:20 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I'm sorry but I seem unable to test this. My dynamic RAM preview stays greyed out (yes, I increased the memory it could use for this to 512 MB). I've never used the feature before either, so I have no real clue as to what is going on.... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 29th, 2004, 06:22 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Do you have any ideas Edward? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 29th, 2004, 07:59 AM	#7
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Hello Edward! Charley & Rob - thanks for showing the interest .. . All we need is to wake up Edward and we could play some Holiday Bridge. 2 Clubs . .. But yes, I get 2 frames and then it falters. Copy and paste it down the T/L and it works nice as pie. . .. Grazie

December 21st, 2004, 07:11 AM	#3
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	"I was trying to do this as well, but got two questions for you: " well actually you've possited 3 in total HAHAHA! ! !! OK: 1. "which exact version of Vegas? (I'm using 5.0b)" 5.0b Build 160 2. Build Dynamic RAM Preview - NOT greyed out here. 3. "what are your project settings you are using? " PAL-DV; 720x576; 1000mb for RAM Preview; Frame Rate 25.00 (PAL) . . .anything else? Grazie

December 26th, 2004, 12:37 PM	#5
Charley Gallagher Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Collingswood, NJ Posts: 99	I was going to post a question about why sometimes I go to RAM render and I end up rendering only a few frames or so when I saw this post. Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't work at all. I have 1.5 Gigs of RAM. I see no relation between when it does and when it doesn't. I will sit back and see if someone joins in with a solution.

December 29th, 2004, 08:55 AM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Obviously it's telling Grazie that the picture doesn't belong there. Instead he should be placing it farther down the timeline! :-) So, Grazie, what's the footage you SHOULD be placing at that location???? :-) Honestly have no idea why ram render would not work for the same image in one location but work in another. I almost never use ram render anyway. Does a full render work there? Or a pre-render? Or a render to new track? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 29th, 2004, 10:27 AM	#9
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Hiyah Edward, . . hold on just firing up the MONSTA! . . I'm really suffering with a nasty sore throat .. anybody got an OLD time relief remedy? . . Okay . . MONSTA! is awake . . grabbing hold of Vegas . . New Project . . "Does a full render work there?" Yes. "Or a pre-render?" Yes. "Or a render to new track?" - Yes. Repeating experiment . . 1/- FXs aren't the culprit 2/- BUT when I use P/C and try and RAM Render = 2 frames! 3/- Just copied this same event further dpwn the T/L and RAM render works! 4/- Now stick another FX on this P/C and it works too! Throat still sore . . I'll be on pain killers in a couple of minutes. Don't wanna touch Penicilin quite yet .. . Grazie

December 29th, 2004, 11:14 AM	#10
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	WHERE on the timeline? The only thing you added is Pan/Crop? What if one of US tries the VEG (you just would need to tell us the timecode range to ram render)? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 29th, 2004, 11:30 AM	#11
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	. . sorry Edward . . just repeating . . 1/- Event STARTS at 00:00 total length 00:00:18.02 sec AVI 2/- P/C introduced 00:12 . .simple move right 3/- This works in Preview .. BUT! 4/- Highlight as per doing a RAM render, I get 3 frames and then it faulters .. 5/- Copy the same Event and Paste to around 00:01:00 . .ie 1 min marker . .and RAM renders work! 6/- NOW delete original EVENT at 00:00:00 and PASTE back the COPIED event and this now works at 00:00:00 Totally weird! p.s. I do have 1gig of RAM given over to RAM renders Grazie

December 29th, 2004, 01:04 PM	#12
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Very strange. Tried to do something similar here - didn't get it to fail. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 29th, 2004, 02:51 PM	#13
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Oh . . .. . ? Now, look over my shoulder and you'll see what I mean .. .See! There it is again! Grazie

December 29th, 2004, 03:01 PM	#14
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Darn, I must have blinked. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 29th, 2004, 03:05 PM	#15
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	. . .I can do it at the drop of a hat . . and again! . .and again! . . . .