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Glenn Gipson · January 2nd, 2005, 08:50 AM

I remember when I was in film school (7 years ago) and we had to edit on flat bed editors....complete nightmare, and what made it worse for me was that I knew that NLE editing was on the rise (back then HD Space was a major issue) so it was very hard for me to have a passion for manual linear editing (I got a D in the class.) With Vegas, cutting my movie together is a dream, a breeze! Unlike the old 16mm flat bed editors, I no longer have to sell my soul to the devil for experimenting with my cuts. I just got Vegas not too long ago, and I can see what all the hype is about in regards to its straight-to-the-point simplicity.

PS. I did edit my thesis film on Premier in my senior year, and I don’t remember it being as intuitive as Vegas is…maybe the new version of Premier changed, I don’t know.

Graham Bernard · January 2nd, 2005, 10:01 AM

Hiyah! Good init?

I love working in Vegas 5. And yes it is mostly intuitive. It has some foibles .. . I like to RAM Preview some of my "concoctions" to get a look 'n feel for a short piece. Recently I've stumbled on an issue with RAM building Preview within Pan Crop AND having the Sync Cursor applied . . It's been sent to the engineers.

I liken Vegas to the more intuitive graphics packages OR music packages OR word processors. The Cut and Paste and the Paste Event Attributes are just steaming! I use chroma keying a lot to get amazing organic affects and multi track to create layers upon layers. Have you gotten around to using an empty track as a Parent track to motion "Child" tracks? That's mind blowing!

I recently purchased SPOT's Vegas 5 Editing Workshop 2nd Edition - from the Digital Video Expert Series: Tips and Tricks to improve workflow ... PLUS Gary Kliener's 5 DVD set of One-To-One tutorials. These two sources of knowledge have been an inspiration to my leaping forward.

Welcome aboard . ..

Grazie

Glenn Gipson · January 2nd, 2005, 10:18 AM

>>Have you gotten around to using an empty track as a Parent track to motion "Child" tracks?<<

I'm not sure what you mean, could you explain?

Graham Bernard · January 2nd, 2005, 10:24 AM

Ok - Have you used Track motion yet? This gives you the option to move your event/s in 2 and now 3-D space. Now in V5 you can have many tracks working in 3-D space in relationship with each other. Ok . . Now you've set this up, and you are then happy with say 3 tracks moving about, you can then make ALL 3 tracks children to an Empty Parent track - and now you can move all those children tracks in unison, being "goverend" by this PArent track! . . Very hard to explain here. I can email you a veg and you can subsititute your own medi. You want it?

Grazie

Graham Bernard · January 2nd, 2005, 11:01 AM

Sent you 2 veggies to play with! - :) Grazie

Glenn Gipson · January 2nd, 2005, 11:12 AM

Thanks Graham!

Graham Bernard · January 2nd, 2005, 11:14 AM

Sorry it aint pretty . . but it kinda explains what I was attemtping to say in . .er . .words?

Do you see now? It's a great addition to what we do - yeah?

Grazie

Jesse Bekas · January 3rd, 2005, 12:41 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Glenn Gipson : I remember when I was in film school (7 years ago) and we had to edit on flat bed editors....complete nightmare, and what made it worse for me was that I knew that NLE editing was on the rise (back then HD Space was a major issue) so it was very hard for me to have a passion for manual linear editing (I got a D in the class.) With Vegas, cutting my movie together is a dream, a breeze! Unlike the old 16mm flat bed editors, I no longer have to sell my soul to the devil for experimenting with my cuts. I just got Vegas not too long ago, and I can see what all the hype is about in regards to its straight-to-the-point simplicity.

PS. I did edit my thesis film on Premier in my senior year, and I don’t remember it being as intuitive as Vegas is…maybe the new version of Premier changed, I don’t know. -->>>

I'm in film school now, and my last project was cut on an 8-plate. I really enjoy the tactile experience, but I must be allergic to some checmical on the film or sprocketed tape (if it uses some special non-residual glue) because my fingers get really peely any time I'm on the Steenbeck for awhile, and it lasts a for a couple weeks.

They keep talking about going all digital here, but the students prefer to keep "dabbling" in film. I love shooting 16mm because it forces me to learn to light and prepare better.

BTW - I love Vegas too, and obviously prefer the freedom NLE's and Vegas specifically provide.

Tim Kay · January 4th, 2005, 12:37 PM

Hey can you send me some vegs to play with ! I only know simple concepts with Parents controls and would love to practice/play with this powerful feature.

timlexus@gmail.com

thanks!

<<<-- Originally posted by Graham Bernard : Sent you 2 veggies to play with! - :) Grazie -->>>

Graham Bernard · January 4th, 2005, 01:08 PM

Andy? You want veggies . . you wanna?

Here's a place you can fill yah boots with em . .. be warned, they ARE addictive . . it is part of the VASST site ..

http://www.vasst.com/training/othersoftware.htm

Grazie

Tim Ashbrooke · January 4th, 2005, 08:57 PM

me too! me too! thanks Grazie!!!!

tjashbrooke@gmail.com

Fred Finn · January 5th, 2005, 12:16 PM

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January 2nd, 2005, 08:50 AM	#1
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	I love Vegas I remember when I was in film school (7 years ago) and we had to edit on flat bed editors....complete nightmare, and what made it worse for me was that I knew that NLE editing was on the rise (back then HD Space was a major issue) so it was very hard for me to have a passion for manual linear editing (I got a D in the class.) With Vegas, cutting my movie together is a dream, a breeze! Unlike the old 16mm flat bed editors, I no longer have to sell my soul to the devil for experimenting with my cuts. I just got Vegas not too long ago, and I can see what all the hype is about in regards to its straight-to-the-point simplicity. PS. I did edit my thesis film on Premier in my senior year, and I don’t remember it being as intuitive as Vegas is…maybe the new version of Premier changed, I don’t know.

January 3rd, 2005, 12:41 AM	#8
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	Re: I love Vegas <<<-- Originally posted by Glenn Gipson : I remember when I was in film school (7 years ago) and we had to edit on flat bed editors....complete nightmare, and what made it worse for me was that I knew that NLE editing was on the rise (back then HD Space was a major issue) so it was very hard for me to have a passion for manual linear editing (I got a D in the class.) With Vegas, cutting my movie together is a dream, a breeze! Unlike the old 16mm flat bed editors, I no longer have to sell my soul to the devil for experimenting with my cuts. I just got Vegas not too long ago, and I can see what all the hype is about in regards to its straight-to-the-point simplicity. PS. I did edit my thesis film on Premier in my senior year, and I don’t remember it being as intuitive as Vegas is…maybe the new version of Premier changed, I don’t know. -->>> I'm in film school now, and my last project was cut on an 8-plate. I really enjoy the tactile experience, but I must be allergic to some checmical on the film or sprocketed tape (if it uses some special non-residual glue) because my fingers get really peely any time I'm on the Steenbeck for awhile, and it lasts a for a couple weeks. They keep talking about going all digital here, but the students prefer to keep "dabbling" in film. I love shooting 16mm because it forces me to learn to light and prepare better. BTW - I love Vegas too, and obviously prefer the freedom NLE's and Vegas specifically provide.

January 4th, 2005, 12:37 PM	#9
Tim Kay Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF & LA Posts: 195	Hey can you send me some vegs to play with ! I only know simple concepts with Parents controls and would love to practice/play with this powerful feature. timlexus@gmail.com thanks! <<<-- Originally posted by Graham Bernard : Sent you 2 veggies to play with! - :) Grazie -->>> __________________ Event Production Services \| Video Production San Francisco

January 5th, 2005, 12:16 PM	#12
Fred Finn Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Jackson, WY Posts: 178	http://hazardousproductions.com/images/edit.gif __________________ i am the muffin man.

January 2nd, 2005, 10:01 AM	#2
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Hiyah! Good init? I love working in Vegas 5. And yes it is mostly intuitive. It has some foibles .. . I like to RAM Preview some of my "concoctions" to get a look 'n feel for a short piece. Recently I've stumbled on an issue with RAM building Preview within Pan Crop AND having the Sync Cursor applied . . It's been sent to the engineers. I liken Vegas to the more intuitive graphics packages OR music packages OR word processors. The Cut and Paste and the Paste Event Attributes are just steaming! I use chroma keying a lot to get amazing organic affects and multi track to create layers upon layers. Have you gotten around to using an empty track as a Parent track to motion "Child" tracks? That's mind blowing! I recently purchased SPOT's Vegas 5 Editing Workshop 2nd Edition - from the Digital Video Expert Series: Tips and Tricks to improve workflow ... PLUS Gary Kliener's 5 DVD set of One-To-One tutorials. These two sources of knowledge have been an inspiration to my leaping forward. Welcome aboard . .. Grazie

January 2nd, 2005, 10:18 AM	#3
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	>>Have you gotten around to using an empty track as a Parent track to motion "Child" tracks?<< I'm not sure what you mean, could you explain?

January 2nd, 2005, 10:24 AM	#4
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Ok - Have you used Track motion yet? This gives you the option to move your event/s in 2 and now 3-D space. Now in V5 you can have many tracks working in 3-D space in relationship with each other. Ok . . Now you've set this up, and you are then happy with say 3 tracks moving about, you can then make ALL 3 tracks children to an Empty Parent track - and now you can move all those children tracks in unison, being "goverend" by this PArent track! . . Very hard to explain here. I can email you a veg and you can subsititute your own medi. You want it? Grazie

January 2nd, 2005, 11:01 AM	#5
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Sent you 2 veggies to play with! - :) Grazie

January 2nd, 2005, 11:12 AM	#6
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Thanks Graham!

January 2nd, 2005, 11:14 AM	#7
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Sorry it aint pretty . . but it kinda explains what I was attemtping to say in . .er . .words? Do you see now? It's a great addition to what we do - yeah? Grazie

January 4th, 2005, 01:08 PM	#10
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Andy? You want veggies . . you wanna? Here's a place you can fill yah boots with em . .. be warned, they ARE addictive . . it is part of the VASST site .. http://www.vasst.com/training/othersoftware.htm Grazie

January 4th, 2005, 08:57 PM	#11
Tim Ashbrooke Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Grafton, NSW, Australia Posts: 38	me too! me too! thanks Grazie!!!! tjashbrooke@gmail.com