Best way to move things in Vegas at DVinfo.net

Glenn Gipson · February 20th, 2005, 09:01 AM

I hope this question makes sense….

What is the most efficient way to move everything on the time line, both sound and picture, either backwards or forwards when I want to inset/delete footage into the middle of my scene? Thanks.

Rob Lohman · February 20th, 2005, 09:21 AM

If you turn on auto ripple it will do this automatically for you.
Otherwise there is also a Vegas plugin available with which you
can select everything from the cursor on and then move it all
together.

Josh Bass · February 20th, 2005, 09:50 AM

Cause I feel like it, I'll chime in.

Rippling rules, but be careful. I have screwed up a project in literally a matter of seconds by forgetting to turn it off. I usually turn it on when I want to insert/delete something, and have everything move accordingly, and then try to turn it off again right after. Sure, you can just "undo" the changes that screw you, but nevertheless, I say turn it off when you don't need it.

Also, seems like most of the time you want to select the option to ripple all tracks, events, etc., so that EVERYTHING on your timeline moves, and not just the track you're actually. . .uh. . .operating on at the moment. Dig?

Rob Lohman · February 20th, 2005, 09:54 AM

Very good point Josh! I've had the same issue. Turn it on when
you need it, and then turn it off directly after you're done! <g>

Gary Kleiner · February 20th, 2005, 12:31 PM

>Turn it on when
you need it, and then turn it off directly after you're done<

That's why I NEVER use auto-ripple. Post-ripple is a lot safer.

Ctrl/F
Ctrl/Shift/F

Gary

Josh Bass · February 20th, 2005, 12:33 PM

Who is this post ripple you speak of? What does he do?

Edward Troxel · February 20th, 2005, 12:59 PM

I usually leave rippling turned off as it *can* create undesired results if you're not careful. Sometimes I'll use Post Ripple Editing but more often I'll select the desired events using the Select Events tool in Tsunami.

Edward Troxel · February 20th, 2005, 01:03 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Josh Bass : Who is this post ripple you speak of? What does he do? -->>>

Basically, just doing the edit with ripple turned off remembers what rippling WOULD have done. You can then ripple after the fact by using variations of the "F" key. Do a search in the help file for "Post-Edit Ripple".

Press F after an edit to ripple the affected tracks, press Ctrl+F to also ripple markers, keyframes, and envelopes. To ripple everything after an edit, press Ctrl+Shift+F.

Patrick King · February 20th, 2005, 01:10 PM

Mr. Troxel, you're the best. I've been using Vegas for years and didn't know about Post-Ripple until you wrote about it here. I guess one of these days I'll have to actually READ that dang User Manual. Was this in one of your newsletters? I missed that one if it was. Thanks for participating in this board!

Edward Troxel · February 20th, 2005, 01:45 PM

I don't specifically recall discussing post ripple editing in the newsletter but may have mentioned it in passing - I'd have to look at them all. However, it IS very useful.

As Gary said, I never use ripple editing. Post Ripple is MUCH safer.

Gary Kleiner · February 20th, 2005, 09:32 PM

>Mr. Troxel, you're the best. I've been using Vegas for years and didn't know about Post-Ripple until you wrote about it here.<

Yes, Mr. Troxel is a super guy, however I am the one that first mentioned it in this thread.

But, who's keepin' score? :-)

Gary

Patrick King · February 20th, 2005, 10:08 PM

Gary,
Sorry man. You know I appreciate your participation in this forum also. In fact I'm looking at three of your instructional DVDs on the shelf above my computer. Was that covered in your DVD? I've been meaning to watch those again! I've found I learn about three ways from you marvelous Vegas training products. First I get an awareness of all Vegas can do. Then I use them to help me through my first use of a new feature I've not used before. Then I occasionally use them to intentionally make me stretch and use something I think I won't really use in my workflow. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I find I've been overlooking a jewel.

Thanks for all you, and Edward and others do to help us mere mortals.

Gary Kleiner · February 21st, 2005, 12:25 AM

Patrick,

Glad you like my Vegas Training.

Ripple editing is covered in the Vegas 5 Companion, Disc 2, chapter 31 (not that I rememberd that, just looked it up in the index).

Gary

Patrick King · February 21st, 2005, 07:46 AM

Gary,

I've been meaning to ask you about that. On your Vegas Video Editing (for Vegas 4.0) you included a 'Table of Contents' on the back cover of the insert which was VERY helpful. That let me stop what I was doing in Vegas, pop in your DVD and cue up the piece I wanted to review and go right to it.

Any chance I can talk you into posting a printable (PDF or Word) Table of Contents for you new series 'The Vegas 5 Companion'? The series is amazing in its depth, quality and completeness. But I would find it even more useful with a roadmap. If you already have a 'Table of Contents' in any form (full page or DVD insert size) it would be helpful.

Sorry for begging. I've enjoyed your product but sometimes find my self avoiding it because it takes so long to find which DVD I'm really lloking for.

Edward Troxel · February 21st, 2005, 08:22 AM

The complete index is posted on the website:

http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com...nion_index.pdf

February 20th, 2005, 09:01 AM	#1
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Best way to move things in Vegas I hope this question makes sense…. What is the most efficient way to move everything on the time line, both sound and picture, either backwards or forwards when I want to inset/delete footage into the middle of my scene? Thanks.

February 20th, 2005, 09:21 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	If you turn on auto ripple it will do this automatically for you. Otherwise there is also a Vegas plugin available with which you can select everything from the cursor on and then move it all together. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 20th, 2005, 09:50 AM	#3
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Cause I feel like it, I'll chime in. Rippling rules, but be careful. I have screwed up a project in literally a matter of seconds by forgetting to turn it off. I usually turn it on when I want to insert/delete something, and have everything move accordingly, and then try to turn it off again right after. Sure, you can just "undo" the changes that screw you, but nevertheless, I say turn it off when you don't need it. Also, seems like most of the time you want to select the option to ripple all tracks, events, etc., so that EVERYTHING on your timeline moves, and not just the track you're actually. . .uh. . .operating on at the moment. Dig? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

February 20th, 2005, 09:54 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Very good point Josh! I've had the same issue. Turn it on when you need it, and then turn it off directly after you're done! <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 20th, 2005, 12:33 PM	#6
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Who is this post ripple you speak of? What does he do? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

February 20th, 2005, 12:31 PM	#5
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	>Turn it on when you need it, and then turn it off directly after you're done< That's why I NEVER use auto-ripple. Post-ripple is a lot safer. Ctrl/F Ctrl/Shift/F Gary

February 20th, 2005, 12:59 PM	#7
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I usually leave rippling turned off as it can create undesired results if you're not careful. Sometimes I'll use Post Ripple Editing but more often I'll select the desired events using the Select Events tool in Tsunami. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 20th, 2005, 01:03 PM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Josh Bass : Who is this post ripple you speak of? What does he do? -->>> Basically, just doing the edit with ripple turned off remembers what rippling WOULD have done. You can then ripple after the fact by using variations of the "F" key. Do a search in the help file for "Post-Edit Ripple". Press F after an edit to ripple the affected tracks, press Ctrl+F to also ripple markers, keyframes, and envelopes. To ripple everything after an edit, press Ctrl+Shift+F. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 20th, 2005, 01:10 PM	#9
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Mr. Troxel, you're the best. I've been using Vegas for years and didn't know about Post-Ripple until you wrote about it here. I guess one of these days I'll have to actually READ that dang User Manual. Was this in one of your newsletters? I missed that one if it was. Thanks for participating in this board! __________________ Fear No Weevil!

February 20th, 2005, 01:45 PM	#10
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I don't specifically recall discussing post ripple editing in the newsletter but may have mentioned it in passing - I'd have to look at them all. However, it IS very useful. As Gary said, I never use ripple editing. Post Ripple is MUCH safer. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 20th, 2005, 09:32 PM	#11
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	>Mr. Troxel, you're the best. I've been using Vegas for years and didn't know about Post-Ripple until you wrote about it here.< Yes, Mr. Troxel is a super guy, however I am the one that first mentioned it in this thread. But, who's keepin' score? :-) Gary

February 20th, 2005, 10:08 PM	#12
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Gary, Sorry man. You know I appreciate your participation in this forum also. In fact I'm looking at three of your instructional DVDs on the shelf above my computer. Was that covered in your DVD? I've been meaning to watch those again! I've found I learn about three ways from you marvelous Vegas training products. First I get an awareness of all Vegas can do. Then I use them to help me through my first use of a new feature I've not used before. Then I occasionally use them to intentionally make me stretch and use something I think I won't really use in my workflow. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I find I've been overlooking a jewel. Thanks for all you, and Edward and others do to help us mere mortals. __________________ Fear No Weevil!

February 21st, 2005, 12:25 AM	#13
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	Patrick, Glad you like my Vegas Training. Ripple editing is covered in the Vegas 5 Companion, Disc 2, chapter 31 (not that I rememberd that, just looked it up in the index). Gary

February 21st, 2005, 07:46 AM	#14
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Gary, I've been meaning to ask you about that. On your Vegas Video Editing (for Vegas 4.0) you included a 'Table of Contents' on the back cover of the insert which was VERY helpful. That let me stop what I was doing in Vegas, pop in your DVD and cue up the piece I wanted to review and go right to it. Any chance I can talk you into posting a printable (PDF or Word) Table of Contents for you new series 'The Vegas 5 Companion'? The series is amazing in its depth, quality and completeness. But I would find it even more useful with a roadmap. If you already have a 'Table of Contents' in any form (full page or DVD insert size) it would be helpful. Sorry for begging. I've enjoyed your product but sometimes find my self avoiding it because it takes so long to find which DVD I'm really lloking for. __________________ Fear No Weevil!

February 21st, 2005, 08:22 AM	#15
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The complete index is posted on the website: http://www.vegastrainingandtools.com...nion_index.pdf __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters