Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Ron Evans · November 5th, 2005, 12:02 PM

Until you actually go HDV for everything( all cameras) you could downconvert in camera ( capture to DV ) and just carry on as you would for DV editing. That is what I have done with my FX1 when mixed with other DV cameras. Saves a lot of time and you still have the original HDV tape to use in the future.

Ron Evans

Dan Measel · November 5th, 2005, 02:37 PM

Something has happened to my Vegas 6. The scrub panel on the lower part of the timeline (you know where you can size the events and scrub through them) has disappeared. The vertical one is there but looks odd. This is crippling my editing ability. Anyone have any suggestions how to get that back? Reboots have been unsuccessful.

Thanks

Edward Troxel · November 5th, 2005, 03:02 PM

Did you change your XP Windows theme? If you put it on the default theme does it come back?

Dan Measel · November 5th, 2005, 03:29 PM

I didn't change anything. I had just finished capturing a massive video file until my hardrive was nearly full. I then opened V6 and it froze, wouldn't open (an unusual occurrence). So I rebooted the computer and when I opened V6 I had lost the scrub bar. Should I just uninstall and then reinstall it? I switched back to Vegas 4 for the current project and it works fine.

Kevin Brown · November 5th, 2005, 07:52 PM

my exported avi is interlaced for 2 frames then deinterlaced for 3, and the pattern continues, producing a vibrating effect. My original footage is 60i, and I'm going for 24p.

Project properties:

Frame rate: 23.976
Motion blur type: gaussian
Deinterlace method: blend fields
Ruler time format: 23.976

Smart resampling and 'reduce interlace flicker' are both on.

When I go to export, I select NTSC DV 24p: 2-3 pulldown

What am I doing wrong here? Should I keep the project settings at 29.97 until I export?

Also, when I eventually convert to MPEG-2, should I use 23.976 as the frame rate, or continue to use 29.97, seeing as the exported avi is in a 29.97 shell?

Help computer.

Edward Troxel · November 5th, 2005, 09:34 PM

I would first try holding down CTRL-SHIFT while opening Vegas 6. This reverts it back to "default" settings.

Jeff Toogood · November 6th, 2005, 07:29 AM

Did a small segment yesterday shooting an interview against a solid white background. We lit the scene the best we could and it looked fine on the LCD and monitor. However I have noticed that the top corner of the background has some light fallout. How can I make the entire background pure white?
I have played around with the glow and it works well for the background, but not the look I want for the subject.
Is there an easy way to cut out the subject and place him on a seperate track and then apply glow to the background?

Thanks

Graham Bernard · November 6th, 2005, 08:17 AM

Jeff you are welcome to send me sample and I will see what I can do. Apart from anything else I'll, be able to see what you mean.

Grazie

Robin Davies-Rollinson · November 6th, 2005, 08:48 AM

Jeff, you could add the shot again but above on the timeline, then move the frame until you get the area you need pure white from and then you can just apply a soft-edge wipe to matte it in.
I don't know Vegas, but the technique is the same - unless you have a clone tool available?

Robin

Jeff Toogood · November 6th, 2005, 10:44 AM

Here is a screenshot, it is kind of hard to see, but the top right hand side is not as white as the rest of the background
http://www.digitaliso.ca/Image8.jpg

Graham Bernard · November 6th, 2005, 10:57 AM

Well, I tried chroma-keying out as much of the b/g as poss. I then replaced the b/g with Vegas solid "white". If you want it I can email to you? Up to you. - G

Graham Bernard · November 6th, 2005, 11:47 AM

Hmmm . . the other thing I notice is that YOUR background is not WHITE. Well it might appear that way . . but I suppose you aren't "too" fussy about the white? Well, if this IS the case there is another way.

What I then did was duplicate the track above, and selected an lump of "whitish" area - this I chose the piece to the left of the chap. Then I made a Bezier mask of THAT area and then moved this area over to the RIGHT side of the picture. Using careful and subtle use of feather and colour corrector I think I've blended IN an area of this whiter "paint . .as it were. I think It kinda works. I'll do a Vegas grab of this and have it ready - if you want it?

You have probably realised that the problem you've got is that your backgrounds is not evenly non-white, so I needed to make a matching "blend" that would mask the greying area, in a gradual way . . yeah? I think the BEzier approach works better than the Chromakeying . . .

Grazie

Graham Bernard · November 6th, 2005, 11:59 AM

Yes, Robin, this is exactly what you can do I Vegas - no "clone" tool, but Bezier yes. . . I just read your post. Above is my approach which is an "echo" of what you say. G

Magnus Helander · November 6th, 2005, 04:27 PM

I think Sorenson has the worst customer support and I'm ready to go to Cleaner any day. Today, however, the Sorenson Squeeze app really impressed me.

We host our streams on a streaming server (Akamai) and it was always a three step process to get the files up there, 1. Render from vegas, 2. Encode in sorenson, 3. FTP upload.

Today I right-clicked a job in Sorenson and found "assign additional tasks" and "Copy to FTP" under tasks. This in combination with the Squeeeze Watch folder feature over our Gigabit LAN means...

1. Export from Vegas on Editing box to the watchfolder on the Sorenson encoder box
2. Squeeze kicks in immediately and starts encoding whatever it finds in the watch folder.
3. When Squeeze finishes it uploads to the streaming server automagically.

Summary: Flash 8 (and everything else) from the Vegas timeline!
Sweet!

Also noticed that o2 has a Flash 8 Video Exporter http://www.on2.com/support-resources...xporter_Basic/
Anyone tried this with vegas?

/magnus

Gregory Doi · November 6th, 2005, 05:11 PM

hey guys,

I've been doing a weekly TV series here in Hawaii. I recently started noticing a problem in Vegas. Sometimes to do a preview for the producer ill do a prerender on the whole project. When this is done the normal blue bars show up above the timeline. However, i find that if i make any changes anywhere in the timeline, all the blue bars disappear.

Let me clarify. If I make a change to the credits at the end, the blue bars dissappear from the beginning of the timline, for instance the intro and all the way down. so theres no blue bars left. This means that when finalize the project I gotta re-render all over again.

Thanks,

Greg

November 5th, 2005, 02:37 PM	#1022
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	Help! I lost my scrub bar Something has happened to my Vegas 6. The scrub panel on the lower part of the timeline (you know where you can size the events and scrub through them) has disappeared. The vertical one is there but looks odd. This is crippling my editing ability. Anyone have any suggestions how to get that back? Reboots have been unsuccessful. Thanks

November 5th, 2005, 03:02 PM	#1023
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Did you change your XP Windows theme? If you put it on the default theme does it come back? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 5th, 2005, 07:52 PM	#1025
Kevin Brown Tourist Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kamloops BC, Canada Posts: 2	Every 3 frames... my exported avi is interlaced for 2 frames then deinterlaced for 3, and the pattern continues, producing a vibrating effect. My original footage is 60i, and I'm going for 24p. Project properties: Frame rate: 23.976 Motion blur type: gaussian Deinterlace method: blend fields Ruler time format: 23.976 Smart resampling and 'reduce interlace flicker' are both on. When I go to export, I select NTSC DV 24p: 2-3 pulldown What am I doing wrong here? Should I keep the project settings at 29.97 until I export? Also, when I eventually convert to MPEG-2, should I use 23.976 as the frame rate, or continue to use 29.97, seeing as the exported avi is in a 29.97 shell? Help computer.

November 5th, 2005, 09:34 PM	#1026
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I would first try holding down CTRL-SHIFT while opening Vegas 6. This reverts it back to "default" settings. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 6th, 2005, 07:29 AM	#1027
Jeff Toogood Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St.Thomas, Ontario, CANADA Posts: 428	Making the background completely white Did a small segment yesterday shooting an interview against a solid white background. We lit the scene the best we could and it looked fine on the LCD and monitor. However I have noticed that the top corner of the background has some light fallout. How can I make the entire background pure white? I have played around with the glow and it works well for the background, but not the look I want for the subject. Is there an easy way to cut out the subject and place him on a seperate track and then apply glow to the background? Thanks __________________ Toogood Studios

November 5th, 2005, 12:02 PM	#1021
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Until you actually go HDV for everything( all cameras) you could downconvert in camera ( capture to DV ) and just carry on as you would for DV editing. That is what I have done with my FX1 when mixed with other DV cameras. Saves a lot of time and you still have the original HDV tape to use in the future. Ron Evans

November 5th, 2005, 03:29 PM	#1024
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	I didn't change anything. I had just finished capturing a massive video file until my hardrive was nearly full. I then opened V6 and it froze, wouldn't open (an unusual occurrence). So I rebooted the computer and when I opened V6 I had lost the scrub bar. Should I just uninstall and then reinstall it? I switched back to Vegas 4 for the current project and it works fine.

November 6th, 2005, 08:17 AM	#1028
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Jeff you are welcome to send me sample and I will see what I can do. Apart from anything else I'll, be able to see what you mean. Grazie

November 6th, 2005, 08:48 AM	#1029
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Jeff, you could add the shot again but above on the timeline, then move the frame until you get the area you need pure white from and then you can just apply a soft-edge wipe to matte it in. I don't know Vegas, but the technique is the same - unless you have a clone tool available? Robin

November 6th, 2005, 10:44 AM	#1030
Jeff Toogood Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St.Thomas, Ontario, CANADA Posts: 428	Here is a screenshot, it is kind of hard to see, but the top right hand side is not as white as the rest of the background http://www.digitaliso.ca/Image8.jpg __________________ Toogood Studios

November 6th, 2005, 10:57 AM	#1031
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Well, I tried chroma-keying out as much of the b/g as poss. I then replaced the b/g with Vegas solid "white". If you want it I can email to you? Up to you. - G

November 6th, 2005, 11:47 AM	#1032
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Hmmm . . the other thing I notice is that YOUR background is not WHITE. Well it might appear that way . . but I suppose you aren't "too" fussy about the white? Well, if this IS the case there is another way. What I then did was duplicate the track above, and selected an lump of "whitish" area - this I chose the piece to the left of the chap. Then I made a Bezier mask of THAT area and then moved this area over to the RIGHT side of the picture. Using careful and subtle use of feather and colour corrector I think I've blended IN an area of this whiter "paint . .as it were. I think It kinda works. I'll do a Vegas grab of this and have it ready - if you want it? You have probably realised that the problem you've got is that your backgrounds is not evenly non-white, so I needed to make a matching "blend" that would mask the greying area, in a gradual way . . yeah? I think the BEzier approach works better than the Chromakeying . . . Grazie

November 6th, 2005, 11:59 AM	#1033
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Yes, Robin, this is exactly what you can do I Vegas - no "clone" tool, but Bezier yes. . . I just read your post. Above is my approach which is an "echo" of what you say. G

November 6th, 2005, 04:27 PM	#1034
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	Workflow: Vegas -> Sorenson -> Streaming host I think Sorenson has the worst customer support and I'm ready to go to Cleaner any day. Today, however, the Sorenson Squeeze app really impressed me. We host our streams on a streaming server (Akamai) and it was always a three step process to get the files up there, 1. Render from vegas, 2. Encode in sorenson, 3. FTP upload. Today I right-clicked a job in Sorenson and found "assign additional tasks" and "Copy to FTP" under tasks. This in combination with the Squeeeze Watch folder feature over our Gigabit LAN means... 1. Export from Vegas on Editing box to the watchfolder on the Sorenson encoder box 2. Squeeze kicks in immediately and starts encoding whatever it finds in the watch folder. 3. When Squeeze finishes it uploads to the streaming server automagically. Summary: Flash 8 (and everything else) from the Vegas timeline! Sweet! Also noticed that o2 has a Flash 8 Video Exporter http://www.on2.com/support-resources...xporter_Basic/ Anyone tried this with vegas? /magnus __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+

November 6th, 2005, 05:11 PM	#1035
Gregory Doi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 70	render problems hey guys, I've been doing a weekly TV series here in Hawaii. I recently started noticing a problem in Vegas. Sometimes to do a preview for the producer ill do a prerender on the whole project. When this is done the normal blue bars show up above the timeline. However, i find that if i make any changes anywhere in the timeline, all the blue bars disappear. Let me clarify. If I make a change to the credits at the end, the blue bars dissappear from the beginning of the timline, for instance the intro and all the way down. so theres no blue bars left. This means that when finalize the project I gotta re-render all over again. Thanks, Greg