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Brian Mitchell Warshawsky November 21st, 2006 03:22 PM

I couldn't resist posting another scene.

http://talentshow.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ao...z1tEF#v=104328

or -

http://tinyurl.com/smr3o

Brian

Plamen Petrov November 21st, 2006 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Grant
All PAL standard video apart from DV is UFF, don't panic about it, it all works out correctly. If you render from PAL DV to Sony YUV the field order gets swapped. It has to.

Maybe yes, but the rendered video doesn't look smooth like before, now it looks like progressive on TV set, i.e. flickering appears. Not good!!!

Edward Troxel November 21st, 2006 04:26 PM

Turn on subtitles on the DVD, capture that output.

Kipjaz Savoie November 21st, 2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel
Turn on subtitles on the DVD, capture that output.

Well the project is in HDV so that won't work without reducing my resolution back to SD. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Ryan Laytart November 21st, 2006 07:58 PM

Okay, the play button works on the dvd player remote, even though it does not work in Architect. Kind of odd.

There is one other problem I'm having. When there is more than one video file in the dvd, I am somehow not able to skip from the last chapter of one clip to the first chapter of the next clip. Is this just a matter of changing the "title play" feature?

Thanks.

PJ Gallagher November 21st, 2006 11:17 PM

HDV playback - Am I missing something?
 
I capture the m2t files in Vegas 7 from a JVC BR-HD50 deck. When I place them on the timeline, with the preview monitor in Preview (Auto), I get a frame rate of about 6 or 7 fps.

However, if I render those clips from the timeline to an m2t, then place that m2t on the timeline, I get a frame rate of 25 fps (PAL).

As far as I can tell, the rendered m2t is the same as the captured clip, so why the big difference in preview frame rates? Am I missing something blatantly obvious?

Hopefully someone understands what I'm going on about here and can offer some advice.

Cheers
Pat

Mike Kujbida November 21st, 2006 11:23 PM

Set the End Action of the last chapter of one clip to the first chapter of the next clip.

Bill Ravens November 22nd, 2006 07:42 AM

what are your project properties set to when you capture the m2t files?

Edward Troxel November 22nd, 2006 08:41 AM

Then, yes, you're basically stuck with manually creating multiple text generated media. If you can get them as named regions (using Sub-Text, for example), one other possibility would be the Quick Label tool in Excalibur.

Kipjaz Savoie November 22nd, 2006 09:18 AM

Ah that's what I was afraid of. I just thought there might be some plugin or script that could help - and also make sure the captions conform to guidelines for captioned programs.

Douglas Spotted Eagle November 22nd, 2006 09:26 AM

Project properties on capture wouldn't matter, but project properties on edit do matter, I think this is what Bill is meaning to point out. If you have your system set for 1080 HDV when you're editing 720 HDV, then you'll take a performance hit, and vice versa.

Steven Bills November 22nd, 2006 03:50 PM

I think that I have a solution for you, I'm not sure, but I think...

-Make 2 video tracks.
-Copy footage onto the new video track.
-On the bottom track's video, right click, properties, and set it to lower fields first.
-On the top track's video, do the same thing, except set it to upper fields first.
-Render it out, and see how it looks.

(Oh, while you're in the clip's properties, you could check 'reduce interlace flickering', ((in both the clips)) and that could help)

Just a thought. I use NTSC, not PAL, but give it a try and see if it works.

SB

PJ Gallagher November 22nd, 2006 06:00 PM

Project settings were the first thing I thought of, and they match up (720p[25]). Might have to double check the capture settings again, just in case I am screwing up something there.

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

Mark Lewis November 22nd, 2006 06:46 PM

Render As... only gives me audio choices now - help!
 
When I go to "render as" under file, I am only given audio options. It didn't used to be that way.

I'm sure there is some setting I toggled on/off, but I can't find it. Any ideas?

Mark

Douglas Spotted Eagle November 22nd, 2006 06:48 PM

Be sure you're using the HDV template, not the HD template.

Edward Troxel November 22nd, 2006 08:55 PM

You could always hold down CTRL-SHIFT when starting Vegas to reset it back to factory defaults.

Eugene Kong November 22nd, 2006 09:20 PM

Any ideas anyone?

Will Hanlon November 22nd, 2006 10:01 PM

No idea. I'm dealing with my own exception error in Vegas, and no one has been able to help me including Sony.

Albert Rodgers November 22nd, 2006 10:36 PM

DVDA Disc Space Used Message
 
Hey guys,

Everytime I try to bring a mpg 2 file into DVDA 4 it says that the disc space used is 8.1 GB (Which is extremely large.) I opened this same file in DVDA 2 and it says disc space used 4.4 GB. I just completed two DVD projects in DVDA 2 because of this issue. What could be the problem? Is there a setting that I need to change in DVDA 4?

Thanks.

Alex Thames November 23rd, 2006 02:18 AM

Vegas 7 using quad cores?
 
I believe Vegas 7 utilizes Core 2 (and other dual cores) to their potential, but the new Intel quad core (QX6700) is essentially two Core 2 E6700 together. Will Vegas be able to use the four cores to their potential? Will Vegas be able to use AMD's 4x4 to its potential when it comes out?

Werner Wesp November 23rd, 2006 03:08 AM

Apparently there's support as these tests indicate http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=878&cid=1 ... PC and CPU testers should use Sony Vegas more often to benchmark new equipment...

Don Bloom November 23rd, 2006 07:05 AM

Forget what DVDA says about file size. It is not only very conservative but often so far off it's pathetic. Look at the file size in the EXPLORER WINDOW. It will tell you exactly how big the file is. I never look at the file size as it's read out by DVDA-this IMO is the one thing I wish they would do something about soon.
Don

Bill Ravens November 23rd, 2006 07:59 AM

http://www.vasst.com/resource.aspx?i...c-a7f431ebd02d

Ryan Laytart November 23rd, 2006 08:54 AM

Yeah, I do have that set right. It's just the matter of being able to skip, using the remote, from the last chapter of clip 1 to the first chapter of clip 2.

PJ Gallagher November 23rd, 2006 06:35 PM

Okay, it seems that the footage when capturing is registering as 50fps for some reason, rather than 25fps. Found this out by capturing some footage in CapDVHS. So it may be the way it was shot, rather than the settings in Vegas.

Lee Kennedy November 23rd, 2006 06:46 PM

This is a actually something I've been wondering about myself. I know you can assign an affect to a whole track or the output of all tracks....but is there a way to apply in one action an effect to multiple clips....so that each clip has the effect applied, but you can still adjust each one individually.

I know you could key frame an effect over a whole track need be, but I prefer when say doing colour correction and brightness/contrast control, to put those on each clip then adjust them individually. This task would be made a little bit easier if I didnt have to add the effects to each clip.

Don Bloom November 23rd, 2006 06:55 PM

COPY>Paste Attributes

Highlite the clips you want the effect on and paste it to those then you can go back in and individually adjust but to me it seems if you're going to do that you might as well save it as a preset and then place it on the clip 1 at a time and adjust to taste.
Don

Jacob Eirckson November 23rd, 2006 09:46 PM

screen problem
 
ok when i view effects in vegas it comes up as the image below, it cuts off after the size of the default box, anyone else have this problem or how to fix it thanks.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ewupscreen.jpg

Michael Morlan November 24th, 2006 08:25 AM

Seth,

Check my article "Video De-interlacing with Vegas" here:

http://michael-morlan.net/pages/lear...nterlacing.htm

Enjoy,

Michael

Edward Troxel November 24th, 2006 10:07 AM

That's a new one for me. What if you close and then re-open that window? What if you reduce acceleration on the video card?

Jacob Eirckson November 24th, 2006 01:35 PM

well its not just vegas this is happening too, also photoshop, I tried the hardware accelerator and I shut all off and nothing changed even after restarting the computer. I think it has something to do with a font pushing the stuff off farther because now there is a bigger font used in some programs. Thanks for the reply though

Dan Measel November 24th, 2006 02:34 PM

Audio ? - mixing voice, music & fx
 
While mixing voice with background music and sound fx in my low budget movies I find it's difficult to get the right mix. For example, when I lay down some background music and set it to a level that sounds good the music may actually be too loud when rendered to DVD, drowning the voice. Likewise, I have trouble getting sound effects at the right audio level, for example, explosions and laser fire outside the cockpit.

Are there some basic guidlines for mixing the audio? For example with dialogue and background music are there standard levels that are fairly reliable (like the music should be at least 9db less than dialogue or something).

Also, if there are to be loud noises (explosion, horn honking, thunder, etc) I assume they need to Peak under 0db. But I would think you would want them to be significantly louder than the dialogue, which means you'd set the dialogue much lower, but my dialogue is usually around -3db straight off the tape.

Anyway, I know these are pretty dumb sounding questions and wasn't sure whether to put this in the Vegas forum (my NLE) or audio forum but figured if there was any advice it would be better to hear it about Vegas compatible plug-ins and such.

Jason Robinson November 24th, 2006 03:10 PM

threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Thames
I believe Vegas 7 utilizes Core 2 (and other dual cores) to their potential, but the new Intel quad core (QX6700) is essentially two Core 2 E6700 together. Will Vegas be able to use the four cores to their potential? Will Vegas be able to use AMD's 4x4 to its potential when it comes out?

I think even Vegas 6 can have the # of threads set. A minimum of one thread per core should do the trick. Now I don't expect that to be fully optimized for the CPU, but it should work better.

jason

Jason Robinson November 24th, 2006 03:12 PM

Consider a playlist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Laytart
Yeah, I do have that set right. It's just the matter of being able to skip, using the remote, from the last chapter of clip 1 to the first chapter of clip 2.

I once had to create a playlist when a movie I made had 3 different rendered mpgs. I added them to a playlist and then manually added chapters to the individual files. That seemed to work.

jason

Jon Fairhurst November 24th, 2006 04:56 PM

Your dialog is definitely too loud. Normal speech should peak around -12db. Screams and whispers may vary. You may want to go through the dialog track syllable by syllable to balance the speech. Some consonants get dropped. Some words are overly loud. Get this right before adding anything else.

Effects can definitely peak at 0db. You can add compression to make explosions sound as loud as possible.

Mixing music is done to taste. If you wrote the music, keep it softer than you think it should be. ;)

EQ'ing the music around the dialog really helps. Feel free to manually drop the music as needed to keep the peaks from going over during effects and loud dialog. Same thing if the effects happen during dialog - pencil in a quick drop in volume as needed. Sacrifice everything before you sacrifice understandability.

If you're still unsure of your levels, rip the audio of a target DVD by connecting the audio outputs of a DVD player to your PC's audio inputs. Listen to the soundtrack and watch the levels.

Don't compress the overall result when going to DVD. (In essense, you've already compressed manually with the volume envelope.) Consider light overall compression for the web.

Here's a thread with lots of good tips on the subject:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=73903

Derek Grimes November 24th, 2006 06:51 PM

Color Correcting Software`
 
Is there a software used for color correcting or are the tools in vegas adequate? Also, are there any books/video on the art of color correcting.

THanks

Michael Wisniewski November 24th, 2006 07:03 PM

Check out the Sony Vegas color correction DVD by Glenn Chan and Douglas Spotted Eagle.

Douglas Spotted Eagle November 24th, 2006 07:05 PM

There is also an excellent book on Digital Color Correction from Steve Hullfish, but it's not for Vegas.
To answer the first part of your question though, Vegas has excellent color correction tools. They're not DaVinci or Pablo, but they're very, very good.

Jim Montgomery November 24th, 2006 08:16 PM

Try laying a 0 db tone at the beginning og your timeline. Set your the volume you like off of this tone and don't change it. Make an audio track at -6 db for your voice, -15 db for your sound effects and -18 db for your music.

You can then play with audio volume envelopes if you need to raise or lower a particular section in a particular track.

Jim

Ian Slessor November 24th, 2006 11:03 PM

Blowing away a picture?
 
Hey all,

A quick question.

I'm using Vegas 6 w' Boris FX & Grafitti.

I would like to have a freeze frame "fragment" as if the wind is blowing it away. Starting from one side and dissolving across the frame.

I was thinking of using linear blur and a mask on a copy of the freeze frame.

However, can anybody direct me to a tutorial that could help or is there a quick and easy way of doing this effect in V6?

Thanks in advance.

sincerely,


ian


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