Interlace fixing
 

I use PAL DV Cam 25fps interlaced, so I use PAL DV project in Vegas. The result is ok, but I really want to avoid the typical clear&smooth movement of the video taken from any DV cam. That's why I used so many options and projects, also Framerate Converter HQ so that to change the framerate, then to put it on Vegas and then to render again to 25fps interlaced. I just tried to do analogy with 29.97fps -> 23,976fps (filmlook). That's why I converted my raw footage to 30fps, then on Vegas render to 25fps. Anyway, whatever I do, the result is flickering & stuttering rendered video file. Ok, I see on TV so many movies and clips that are in progressive and they have visible flickering, but it is very little, while on my videos the flickering is too much visible. SO, what is the best so that to make the footage look like progressive but with weak flickering? I hope you understand what I mean.

I'd leave it at 25fps and simply add a mild motion blur.

How??? Please give some examples, I'd appreciate it.

Have you tried just deinterlacing it?
I have good results with Mike Crash's Deinterlace Filter for Vegas - I haven't found the flickering to be excessive, but that's me.

Kyle

Vegas 6 and 7 and Windows Vista
 

I currently have Vegas 6, and am trying to decide whether or not to upgrade to Vegas 7. Are both of them compatible with Windows Vista?

Oh, I have that filter but I dont use it bcoz whatever I do it is still the same. Also I cant undestand about deinterlacing: why do I need to deinterlace if I use interlace TV??? Would you explain more about that?

Thanks for the replies... The cuts and dissolves only option would have worked in hindsight, but I actually wound up just dowloading the Vegas 6 trial, which works full featured for 30 days (longer than I need it), at the editor's suggestion.

On another note, I decided I much prefer version 5.

You don't have to. If your output is going to be an interlaced TV then the main reason you would deinterlace is to give the video the look and feel of progressive (and filmish sort of cadence...).

What is your footage of - is it fast pans and high action? progressive at 25fps will probably look stuttery then, whereas the original interlaced footage will be smooth.

It sounds like you want a sort of middle ground between smooth and stuttery, is that right?

You could try some of the avisynth filters, although I can't recommend any particular ones. A quick search should find numerous ones you could try.

Kyle

2000 clips sounds good to me. Still feel a patch would of been nice for vegas 6 users to solve this. I've got VMS Platinum 6 currently, might consider the ull version of 7 in the future seeing its the same price to upgrade to VMS7 from movie studio or platinum despite platinum costing more.

Thanks for the info doug

Really? Why?

They're both basically the same (workflow wise) except Vegas 6 has more features.

you have 25fps PAL ..
you want to end up 25fps PAL ?
to get rid of interlace why not render out as 25fps PAL and render it as PROGRESSIVE ? ( make sure you change deinterlace method to blend)

IMO taking 25fps ..changing it to 30fps and then back down to 25fps = interlace mess

Yeah -- for the most part, unless you're looking at the window bar, you wouldn't be able to tell which version you're in.

Can I connect my camera to Vegas while shooting?
 

Is it possible to output from my video camera into a laptop with Vegas 6 via firewire in order to look at the incoming video on the video scopes in the software so that I can get all my levels correct? I looked on the laptop and it has a 4-pin firewire port.

You can input from the camera in the vidcap app, but as far as I know there's no way to do so within Vegas itself and thus use the video scopes while shooting.

That said, I don't do HDV, so I'm not sure how the internal HDV capture works. I'll leave it up to someone else to comment on that.

You cannot view live scopes in Vegas during capture.
This is where a tool like DVRack HD come in very handy. It allows live scopes during capture.
It's not an issue of whether you have 4 or 6 pin ports, it's a matter of whether you have an application that allows for live input. Vegas allows for live input, but the scopes cannot be active. the scopes in Vegas are a post-only tool.

Oh I see.. So what would one use the live input for? Just audio recording?

Spot--

Please do expand on this live input idea if you're talking about camera input directly into Vegas and not into the quasi-separate vidcap application. I can think of a few situations in which that would be pretty handy, but I'm not so sure the capability is there. I'd love to be proven wrong though. :)

(I'm not spot...)

To bring video into Vegas "live"... is just like a DV or HDV capture without machine control, be sure to turn off machine control in the capture prefs.

DV - the external capture app, HDV - the internal, just as always.

I'd guess that this isn't really what SF/Sony had in mind, but it works because firewire is firewire, and without machine control on, V doesn't know the difference between a live stream and a stream from tape.

All things considered, it IS a hard-drive recorder... but offers no features for live cap other than the basic capture.

Yes, Vegas will also do stereo or multitrack audio recording live - this IS an app V. was designed for, as it started out life as an audio editor. Recordings take place inside the main Vegas interface, in audio tracks on the timeline.

Basically, any internal or external sound card/interface that works in Windows will work in Vegas, you go into prefs (in Vegas, not Capture) to select the audio device(s) for recording & playback. This works very well.

There are a few flavors of audio drivers that have their pros & cons, and several professional cards/interfaces allow access with more than one kind of driver... (going off topic...)

Seth answered it pretty much as I would.
We used Vegas as a live video capture app for a couple years until Serious Magic came along with DVRack, and later DVRackHD.

As far as live audio...heck, I've recorded 26 tracks live with Vegas on more than one occasion, and regularly capture 8-16 tracks of input live.

WMV and Vegas 7
 

I'm editing a project using WMV fies encoded by Windows Media Encoder (Don't worry, the destination's Youtube so quality doesn't matter). In Vegas 6 I was able to edit and render out all of the WMV files without a problem but in Vegas 7, All non-AV (only a stream of video with no audio stream) files have a 24P-30P like jitter and all AV files (video and audio stream together) don't. This is very weird...

I hope there's a fix to this soon in 7.0c.

Jack, I'm not in a position at this moment to do even any quick testing, but if memory serves, WMV Video Only clips will sometimes have issues on playback in WMPlayer.

The fact that you've been successful in Vegas6 doing vid-only may be a fluke of Vegas 6. I'm not defending V7 or anything...

But... best practice for WM is to include at least a low-bitrate silent audio track with your video-only clips.

Vegas 7.b instalation problem
 

Hello

I downloaded Vegas 7.b and when I try to instal in Athlon 2.0 / 1GB RAM system the instalation always stops with
"Extracting Files: mediamgr\msde\Setup\SqlRun.cab" file
and apears the following message:
Error: CRC mismatch – aborting the installation

Note that I have instaled Vegs 4 and 5 with no problem.

Any idea what`s going on?

Thank you
Ron

You have a bad download. Download it again.

Thank you Edward
I should tell you that there was a Vegas 7.a download one day before and this Athlon system rejected the file the same way it rejected today, but unexpectedly a second computer (with a Pentium system) had no problem to install the Vegas 7.a file. Go figure...

Ron

Preview on 16:9 help
 

Ok, this may be in the wrong section but sure yall can answer this. Most video that I have shot has been done in 4:3 and I preview it on 4:3. However with such new plasmas,dlp,lcd, etc all being 16:9 I have a question.

I have a shoot coming up and it will be shot in 16:9. I have never shot in 16:9 as it was never needed. Now that I am doing that do I need to get a small 16:9 screen to preview it? I know that I can use the safe area in vegas but that is not full proof.

If I do need a 16:9 can I still do my previews for the 4:3 on it? Also who has some small cheap 16:9 tv's.

Jason

I'll try to do that and all of my videos are CBR so I know the bitrate of for all of my .wmv files.

Vegas 7.0b and HDV 720 24p
 

Hi
I just instaled Vegas 7.0b and hasn`t found the option in the template and to render to HDV 720 24p that I intend to use with my JVC HD 100a.
Should I do this template and render option myself and it`s going to work?
Thanks
Ron

You can still preview out. If it's raw footage which isn't recompressed (as in, no effects on it), it'll look stretched vertically in the preview -- but if it's recompressed, it'll appear as 16:9 letterboxed.

That's exactly it... if there were any more features I sure haven't touched or found a need for them, and v6 takes twice as long to load up and has the computer "chattering" a few minutes after I close it.

v5 is just less power hungry.

Disable the Media Manager, and those problems go away.

Then, you can take advantage of things like project nesting.

Ron, just select the HDV 25p option and change the frame rate to 23.976 and then save/rename it as your own. It would definitely work fine.

Ok, I just tried re-encoding my files with a audio stream: Didn't work...

Tried transcoding in VLC: first 6-10 seconds is always skipped out!!!

Edit: Actually, I'm having a symptom that Sony was trying to prevent in 7.0b.

"Fixed a problem that could cause a frame stutter when reading some Windows Media Video files"... NOT.

I've downgraded to Vegas 7.0a and the video's no longer stuttering, BUT, when I render a composited scene in .wmv, full streams were sometimes fully ignored!

I've re-upgraded to 7.0b and am still waiting for a solution to this bug that makes video only .wmv files play like a really bad 24p to 30p conversion in both preview and rendering.

Urgent! Must get file size under 6MB... BY NOON.
 

Hi. I have what seems to be a simple, but pressing matter at hand. There's a 223 MB .avi file (exactly one minute long, includes audio) and I'm trying to Render it on Vegas 6 as an mpg so that it weighs no more than 6 MB.

I have to submit the file and the company I'm sending it to specifically state that the file must be no larger than 6 MB.

In the "Render As..." dialogue box, I selected "Custom..." and under the Video tab, tried decreasing frame size and the video quality. But no matter which frame size or video quality I choose, the outcome is ALWAYS a 14.3 MB file.

1. How can I get that file down to under 6 MB?
2. How is it that varying frame size and/or video quality, has no affect on file size?

Thanks!!!

You must decrease the bitrate to make the file size smaller.

Thanks! i got it.

David
Thank you for your response. That was what I had though.
Best
Ron

Vegas 7 Help..
 

New to video editing, I'm using a two camera setup and am shooting local bands. Both cameras are HDV Sony HDR-FX1 camera's and I'm trying to edit video in Vegas 7 but am having a very hard time switching back and forth between the videos both on the time line.

Does anybody know of a very good, relatively inexpensive tutorial for getting up and running with Vegas 7?

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Jon

It sounds like you need a multi-camera editing plug-in. If you only have two cameras you can use the free DoubleTake script from VASST. If you need more cameras there is also VASST infinitiCAM, VASST Ultimate S, and Excalibur from Edward Troxel. Using any of these scripts will make quick work of a multi-camera edit. Here is a tutorial for using Doubletake.

~jr

Wait a sec, I just checked another wmv file with Video and Audio and it stuttered too! Is it something to do with the encoder?

Terribly sorry for the triple post...

Jack, there really isn't enough info here... somehow you need to narrow in on where the problem is.

Output some DV-AVIs from Vegas and take them through the freeware Windows Media Encoder from Microsoft. Use identical settings on the same AVI for WM output from Vegas and see what you get. Try it from 6, 7...

Are these playback issues showing up on just your encoding machine? Have you tried the files on other PCs? Do you restart your encoding machine, or just go to standby or hibernate?

Sorry I can't be of more direct help.