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Pete Peterson July 19th, 2006 08:47 PM

disable realtime timeline update?
 
is there any way to have it so the thumbnail images on the timeline are not continually updated when you zoom/scroll etc?

i have a decent computer, 1 gig ram, good processor, but my current project has like 10 tracks of video and whenever i zoom/out of timeline it reloads the thumbnails and i get performance issues. In actuality, i don't even need them since i know the times in the events that i'm working with that i need to go to.

second question (sorry to sneak in) Is there anyway to have the timeline show the time for each individual event as opposed to whole project. For example, lets say i have a 30 minute event on a track. I prewatched and i know the section i need to cut out and edit is at 4:55 of that event. However, because the timeline counts the whole project, i have to do alot of math and its a slow process, lets say event starts at 55, then i do 55 + 4.55, it's a bit tedious

thanks in advance for answers to both

Ian Stark July 20th, 2006 02:11 AM

Forum merge
 
When did this happen? I've been an infrequent visitor for the last few weeks and I only noticed it today. Couldn't find any threads on the subject either.

Anyway, I think this is a good move. I was getting quietly frustrated at the number of incorrectly posted topics in either the Vegas SD or Vegas HD forums.

Well done.

Graham Bernard July 20th, 2006 03:21 AM

Neither did I, Ian.

But I reckon' this is where the general digital HD soup is simmering at the moment. So many gadgets and formats and platforms - that NOT having a combined forum must be a real pain. Or Sony had a word to say on the matter - lol!

Steven Davis July 20th, 2006 05:00 AM

Dump message, it looks like a non-file message.
 
Sony Vegas 6.0
Version 6.0d (Build 210)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0x0 IP:0x0
In Module 'vegas60.exe' at Address 0x0 + 0x0
Thread: ProgMan ID=0xF1C Stack=0xAD8C000-0xAD90000
Registers:
EAX=159d8f70 CS=001b EIP=00000000 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=09c77090 SS=0023 ESP=0ad8c424 EBP=0ad8c968
ECX=141a4cc8 DS=0023 ESI=141a4cc8 FS=003b
EDX=0ad8c44c ES=0023 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
00000000: .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ........
00000008: .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ........
Stack Dump:
0AD8C424: 006E51CD 00400000 + 2E51CD (vegas60.exe)
0AD8C428: 141A4CC8 13E70000 + 334CC8
0AD8C42C: 0B58A310 0B4B0000 + DA310
0AD8C430: 00000000
0AD8C434: 15A10468 15550000 + 4C0468
0AD8C438: 006661D7 00400000 + 2661D7 (vegas60.exe)
0AD8C43C: 0AD8C44C 0AC90000 + FC44C
0AD8C440: 0B58A310 0B4B0000 + DA310
0AD8C444: 15A10458 15550000 + 4C0458
0AD8C448: 81B5C7B0
0AD8C44C: 141A4CC8 13E70000 + 334CC8
0AD8C450: 00000000
0AD8C454: 00000000
0AD8C458: 00000000
0AD8C45C: 09C77090 09BE0000 + 97090
0AD8C460: 00000000
> 0AD8C490: 7A7A7A7A 7A6E0000 + C7A7A (system.data.dll)
> 0AD8C494: 7A7A7A7A 7A6E0000 + C7A7A (system.data.dll)
> 0AD8C4B0: 7A797A7A 7A6E0000 + B7A7A (system.data.dll)
> 0AD8C4B4: 7A7A7A7A 7A6E0000 + C7A7A (system.data.dll)
> 0AD8C568: 7C91B5F4 7C900000 + 1B5F4 (ntdll.dll)
> 0AD8C56C: 7C91B686 7C900000 + 1B686 (ntdll.dll)
> 0AD8C6F8: 0066513F 00400000 + 26513F (vegas60.exe)
0AD8C6FC: 0AD8C91C 0AC90000 + FC91C
0AD8C700: 000085F8
0AD8C704: 15A10458 15550000 + 4C0458
0AD8C708: 00140178 00140000 + 178
> 0AD8C754: 006E0000 00400000 + 2E0000 (vegas60.exe)
0AD8C758: 00000000
0AD8C75C: 00000000
0AD8C760: 00000000
0AD8C764: 00230000 00140000 + F0000
> 0AD8C780: 7C90EE18 7C900000 + EE18 (ntdll.dll)
> 0AD8C784: 7C91B690 7C900000 + 1B690 (ntdll.dll)
> 0AD8C78C: 7C91B686 7C900000 + 1B686 (ntdll.dll)
> 0AD8C790: 7C91B298 7C900000 + 1B298 (ntdll.dll)
> 0AD8C79C: 7C9106EB 7C900000 + 106EB (ntdll.dll)
> 0AD8C7A8: 7C8830E0 7C800000 + 830E0 (kernel32.dll)
> 0AD8C810: 0066708E 00400000 + 26708E (vegas60.exe)
0AD8C814: 106106D8 10260000 + 3B06D8
0AD8C818: 00000001
0AD8C81C: 00000002
0AD8C820: 1031A008 10260000 + BA008
> 0AD8C89C: 0066522A 00400000 + 26522A (vegas60.exe)
- - -
0AD8FFF0: 00000000
0AD8FFF4: 005024B0 00400000 + 1024B0 (vegas60.exe)
0AD8FFF8: 0098CDE8 00400000 + 58CDE8 (vegas60.exe)
0AD8FFFC: 00000000

Edward Troxel July 20th, 2006 07:21 AM

The two were merged Wednesday afternoon (US time 7/19). Many forums were merged/moved to, hopefully, better organize things. Having a single venue for all Vegas questions (whether SD or HD) will make it easier to search through answers and ask questions without having to worry "Is this the right forum".

Chris Hurd July 20th, 2006 07:50 AM

My apologies for not getting an announcerment out. I need to clone myself, to better spread the workload. If you've noticed, all of the post production boards are now under a single category.

Steven Davis July 20th, 2006 07:54 AM

Sent to Sony, I'll update with thier answer.

Steven Davis July 20th, 2006 07:58 AM

Heck usually I can barely make words out in between sips of morning coffee. But again, thanks for all the hard work admins.

Ian Stark July 20th, 2006 08:18 AM

Ditto Steven's remarks. You all do an outstanding job with these forums. And great to see a new compositing board as well!

David Delaney July 20th, 2006 11:13 AM

Vegas 6 and HD - does it come native?
 
I am thinking about upgrading to Vegas 6. Does it come with everything needed to edit from an HD camera out of the box? Do I need special software that is extra (or hardware). Right now I have a Firewire for DV.

John Harmon July 20th, 2006 12:21 PM

Well, I have Vegas Movie Studio 6 Platinum, and it can do HD, so it follows that the full version should as well.

Zdravko Jancevski July 20th, 2006 12:36 PM

Which DV Codec to use
 
I have instaled "DV CODEC SWITCHER" and with this tool I can choose which codec to use during DV capturing or editing in Vegas (one of codecs that I have instaled on my computer, Canopus, Cedocida, Panasonic ...).
So my question is, which DV codec gives high quality for capturing and editing.
On of them or some other?
Regards.

David Delaney July 20th, 2006 12:54 PM

That is good. No plugin required. Did you use straight firewire?

Edward Troxel July 20th, 2006 12:55 PM

Technically, a codec is not used during capture. The data is simply copied from the tape to the hard drive. The codec is used for decoding the video to display on the screen and reencoding when changes are made.

For Vegas, I'd stick with the Sony DV codec included with Vegas.

Edward Troxel July 20th, 2006 12:57 PM

You'll be good to go straight out of the box. Vegas 6 can capture HDV direct from firewire using the internal capture program.

David Delaney July 20th, 2006 01:04 PM

What size of drive are we talking about for 15-20 minutes - and how can I output this keeping HD (to DVD?)?

Edward Troxel July 20th, 2006 03:21 PM

HD (m2t) files are about the same size as DV (DV-AVI) files - roughly 13Gig/hour. If you then convert them to Cineform, they will be larger. Besides, you can never have too much disk space.

William Hess July 20th, 2006 06:39 PM

Vegas 6.0d, Cineform, and JVC HD-100
 
Edit: Please delete this message

Douglas Spotted Eagle July 20th, 2006 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Delaney
What size of drive are we talking about for 15-20 minutes - and how can I output this keeping HD (to DVD?)?

As Edward mentioned, 1080i HDV is 25Mbps, same as DV. Converted to CineForm Medium setting, plan on around 40GBph.

Steven Davis July 21st, 2006 06:15 AM

Update
 
The problem was vegas was crashing specifically on a render of a build made up of 6 sub builds.

The first thing I did to try and diagnose this was to render each veg file individually that makes up my final veg build. I figured and still do believe that the crashing has something to do with a single part such as a audio or video file. But renderign each part was successful, so the next thing I did was recreate the veg file with all the veg parts/builds. I did not add the music. I rendered this no problem. Because I had tried to render my 'Love Build' and it crashed three times, I then decided to render it using my older machine. This would be a render from files on my NLE to an older machine over a network. Well it took about 3 times as long but it rendered nontheless.

So in short, I could render the parts of my build individually and collectively (minus the music and one picture), and I could render the same total build on my older machine across my network even, but I can't render the same build on my NLE from my NLE.

My conclusion so far is that one of the files used in my total build is not being read by my page file on my NLE. When I get some time, I'll probably rebuild that total build and see if it renders, for now though there's more work to be done.

It beats all I've ever seen, hehe, I hope this diatribe helps someone in the future.

Zdravko Jancevski July 21st, 2006 07:42 AM

Batch Capturing
 
I know what is and how to use batch converting from AVI to MPEG but how to use batch capturing from my DV camera to computer, when I have to replace an load next video cassete into camera. So what is the point of meanig of "Batch Capturing".
Regards.

Edward Troxel July 21st, 2006 07:55 AM

Batch Capturing allows you to specify various in/out points for capturing a tape. That way you don't have to capture the entire tape, you can capture small sections instead.

I usually use Batch capture - even when capturing an entire tape. I'll specify different sections of the tape to be captured under specific file names and then let it batch capture those sections. I do this for each tape but do the batch capturing while that tape is still in the deck. I don't see a reason to set up all tapes separately and then batch capture them all because, as you said, you'd have to sit there and change the tapes periodically. So I set one up for capture and capture it. I then set the next one up for capture and capture it.

Ian Slessor July 22nd, 2006 02:47 PM

What's with the blur when it's set to 0.00
 
Hey all,

I'm using Vegas 6.

I'm adding a little blur "out" to some text. The text will vertically blur to nothing.

Up until I have the text blur the "linear blur" FX is set to 0.00 however the text is still slightly blurry. When I select and de-select "linear blur" I notice the difference in the preview window.

Anybody have an idea why this would be so or is it something that will not be noticeable once rendered?

Thanks for your help.

sincerely,


ian

Brian Luce July 23rd, 2006 02:29 AM

where can I buy Vegas 5.0?
 
I am looking to buy Vegas 5, are there dealers that sell old versions? Is Ebay the best bet for old software? (licensed of course).

Also, do all version of V5 support HDV? I have a JVCHD100.

Daniel J. Wojcik July 23rd, 2006 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis
My conclusion so far is that one of the files used in my total build is not being read by my page file on my NLE.

A 0xC0000005 exception is a bad memory read, so that could be it.

I occasionally "defragment" the pagefile by removing it completely, defragging the drive, then putting the pagefile back in a nice contiguous block. Maybe give it try?

Oh....and do you have the pagefile set to static size? Or variable? Static is better.

Steven Davis July 23rd, 2006 11:09 AM

I'll have to check, I'm sure it's default

Yegor Sak July 23rd, 2006 02:35 PM

Chromakey in Vegas?
 
Does Vegas 6 have some kind of chromakey tool?

I tried applying the "Track FX" and selecting Sony Chromakeyer, but I didn't have much success. Is there a guide of some sort that I can use to achieve this effect?

What Im trying to achieve is the solid white background behind my subject.... kind of like those new Apple ads, with the 2 guys.

Dan Gadd July 23rd, 2006 03:26 PM

Video plug-ins for Vegas 6
 
I've been looking around a little and can't find a comprehensive set of video effect plug-ins for Vegas 6 that I like or trust. Any recommendations?

James Talus July 23rd, 2006 05:32 PM

Changing Video Speed to Normal
 
Hey everyone. I need help again! I have a vegas project where I changed the speeds of several video clips by holding down the control key and dragging the edge of the clip to change the speed. But now I want to return them to their original, normal, speed.

Anyone know how to get them to 100% normal speed?

Thanks

Harry Burnette July 23rd, 2006 06:00 PM

Sure does..it is built in.

Check out this quick tutorial..it will get you started.

http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/ar...vie_studio.htm

Yegor Sak July 23rd, 2006 07:03 PM

Thanks a bunch!

Don Bloom July 23rd, 2006 07:28 PM

If you have EXCALIBUR there is a tool to "desquiggle" if not you can use the control key and "push" the footage back to the original position but you might find it easier to replace the clip with the original footage from the media bin or explorer.

Don B.

Edward Troxel July 23rd, 2006 07:32 PM

Hold down the CTRL key again and resize it back to the original length. It should snap as you approach the 100% position.

Another way is to right-click the event, choose Properties, and then change the playback rate back to 1. However, you'll have to change the length of the clip to match the new speed.

And the method I typically use is via a script I wrote which will reset it back to normal speed and reset the length.

Don Bloom July 23rd, 2006 07:33 PM

You might like NEWBLUEFX.com-they have some very nice stuff-so does Excalibur and the ones on the VAAST site. Sorry my mind just isn't giving me the name of the exact product at this moment but I'm sure someone will chime in with it.


WAIT-it's ULTIMATE S-I had to NOT think of the name and presto! It came to me.

Any and or ALL of them have effects you might find helpful.

Don B.

Edward Troxel July 23rd, 2006 07:34 PM

I don't necessarily have a comprehensive list but a couple sets I have used in the past can be found at newbluefx.com and zenote.com.

Don Bloom July 23rd, 2006 07:42 PM

Place a GENERATED MEDIA SOLID background (white) on a track BELOW the footage-I change the 255 to 235 to tone it down a bit but thats me.
Apply the chromakey FX to the clips or to the TRACK header, use the eyedropper on the color you want to eliminate and BINGO, its done, AS LONG AS; the background you are eliminating is evenly lit and doesn't have any shadows on it, otherwise it can be a bear to get rid of.

Don B.

Douglas Spotted Eagle July 23rd, 2006 09:21 PM

You can find several Vegas/keying tutorials at http://www.vasst.com/search.aspx?text=Chromakey

Use Levels, coupled with a black matte to create the Apple look. pretty easy, overall, particularly if you shot with that concept in mind.

Douglas Spotted Eagle July 23rd, 2006 09:24 PM

Pixelan would be my fave overall, but there are a lot of plugins, some free and most purchased.
Here is a list of every Vegas plugin available, so far as I'm aware.

http://www.vasst.com/?v=training/Vegasplugsnew.htm

Yegor Sak July 24th, 2006 02:09 AM

What about the shadows? Something tells me getting those to appear properly wont be so easy.

Ryan King July 24th, 2006 06:44 AM

no video on render!!
 
the weirdest things have happened to me tonight.. I have been trying to dump a swf from swish as a uncompressed avi, which plays perfectly in WMP, but only plays the very first frame in vegas.. so...I used winavi to re-export my working avi again, put it in vegas..all works well UNTIL RENDER!
I render and everything is there except that particular avi, I re-dumped it again, and it seems anything I dump from winavi will not render in vegas(however, it plays in the preview window)...strangest thing!
I tried using other converters but the quality is just terrible..the best looking avi I have which looks fantastic is the orginal uncompressed avi from swish..even winavi knocked it down in quality,but I could live with it if I could get the thing to render from vegas.. anyone got a clue? I've exausted myself!


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