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Dennis Murphy · September 9th, 2010, 04:54 PM

Splashed out on Windows 7 64bit and Vegas 9e but now can't get my mouse wheel to zoom in and out on my timeline - completely baffled - any help?

Magnus Helander · September 9th, 2010, 05:02 PM

I'm on Win7 64 with 9e and can zoom with mouse.
Try another mouse from different manufacturer with different driver?
Install mouse & kbd driver from manufacturers website?
/m

Craig Longman · September 9th, 2010, 09:03 PM

One point that annoys me (I so, so, so miss focus-follows-mouse) is that you do actually have to _click_ in the timeline area first... You sound like you might have had older versions, so perhaps this was obvious, but I just thought I'd mention it.

Secondly, I have a Logitech mouse/keyboard and when I allow the Logitech provided (and latest from their website) app to remain as a TSR, it completely screws up the mouse motion in Blender, and GIMP oddly enough. Kill it (or exit it) and things work perfectly fine. So maybe _removing_ the manufacturer provided software might be the answer.

(did I mention I miss focus-follows-mouse?) =)

Ken Jarstad · September 9th, 2010, 11:44 PM

I have VMS 9 and 10 running on Win7 32 bit, home built Q9400 / ASUS and my mouse wheel gets no response. I have tried three different Microsoft mouses, both PS2 and USB. Clicking in the timeline context makes no difference. It's not a show stopper, of course, but zooming in and out would be more efficient with the mouse wheel and I am disappointed that it doesn't work for me.

Peter Greis · September 13th, 2010, 09:59 PM

I'm having the exact same problem. I have a dual boot machine.

Vegas 9e Windows XP - mouse scroll wheel works fine for zooming on timeline.
Vegas 9e 64 on Windows 7 64 bit - mouse scroll wheel works only occasionally as you spin the wheel

Its a Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 with the latest Win7-64 drivers.

Very strange. I'm going to try another mouse, but that means another connection (the 6000 keyboard and mouse have an intergrated receiver).

Buba Kastorski · September 15th, 2010, 01:07 PM

Same issue here,Win 7 64 and Vegas 9e 64, MS Arc mouse works fine, and with the same set of drivers blue led mouse don't, well, almost doesn't, you have to spin the wheel real hard and it's not precise,

Gerald Webb · September 15th, 2010, 03:06 PM

bizarre, i run 64bit 7 and XP and have never seen this with any of my mouses/mice.
when someone works this one out it will be interesting.

Dennis Murphy · September 15th, 2010, 03:49 PM

Nope, nothing I do fixes it - wireless lasermouse 5000.
It's damn frustrating, as zooming in and out on the timeline with the wheel is obviously an unnoticed significant part of my routine, because having to use the +/- is frustrating the living *insert expletive* out of me.
Aaaaargh!

Gerald Webb · September 15th, 2010, 05:49 PM

hmmmmm, the plot thickens, I have the lasermouse 5000 as well......... no dramas.

Craig Longman · September 15th, 2010, 10:06 PM

Can't some of those mouse(s) be configured to have the wheel be scroll or zoom? I think different IDs for messages are even sent, so the app just never 'sees' a zoom.

In the configuration panel for it (either in the taskbar notification or control panel) is there any setting for scroll/zoom? Or maybe if you don't have the OEM driver installed, it defaults to scroll?

Edward Troxel · September 16th, 2010, 06:40 AM

Many years ago, many people mentioned this issue. The issue always turned out to be using the Logitec driver. Uninstalling the driver that came with the mouse and using the Windows built-in driver would solve the problem. Of course it also eliminated the use of the extra functions available on the mouse. So I would strongly suspect that it IS a driver issue.

Dennis Murphy · September 16th, 2010, 03:05 PM

No Logitech driver here.
I've just found a fix which is not satisfactory for me - I dug out a cheap ps2 $10 clunky mouse that I keep as a back-up and the wheel works perfectly.
The problem is, that now I can't assign 'undo' to the wheel button.
That's all I need - to be able to zoom the timeline with the wheel and undo with the wheel button.
I've uninstalled all mouse drivers, disable/enabled etc and no luck.

God is getting me back for all that porn.

Craig Longman · September 18th, 2010, 11:44 AM

Still playing around with this mouse thing, I noticed something odd. First off, ALT-Scroll works for me as zoom as well as no ALT. Secondly, after using ALT, I find that the wheel handling gets screwed up, SHIFT, CTRL nor plain Scroll work, until I tap the ALT key again... A bit annoying, having to remember to tap the ALT key, but if ALT-Scroll works, seeing as your hand are likely near there, might be easier than the other options.

Dennis Murphy · September 18th, 2010, 02:38 PM

Due to not being a highly technical dude around drivers etc, I wonder if it is somthing to do with how Win7 handles USB in conjunction with Vegas?

Peter Greis · September 19th, 2010, 09:12 PM

I've tried the vanilla drivers with Win7 64 and the Intellipoint drivers from Microsoft. No difference, the scroll wheel only works if you really spin it and then not consistently when used on the time line.

It's interesting that it's only the time line in Vegas that has problems. Using the scroll wheel on say the explorer window or the transitions window works fine.

I'm going to try another mosue (currently Microsoft Laser mouse 6000).

September 9th, 2010, 04:54 PM	#1
Dennis Murphy Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Whangarei, New Zealand Posts: 396	Mouse zoom wheel on timeline. Splashed out on Windows 7 64bit and Vegas 9e but now can't get my mouse wheel to zoom in and out on my timeline - completely baffled - any help? __________________ http://www.dmvideostuff.co.nz

September 9th, 2010, 05:02 PM	#2
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	Hmmm I'm on Win7 64 with 9e and can zoom with mouse. Try another mouse from different manufacturer with different driver? Install mouse & kbd driver from manufacturers website? /m __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+

September 9th, 2010, 09:03 PM	#3
Craig Longman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, ON Posts: 175	One point that annoys me (I so, so, so miss focus-follows-mouse) is that you do actually have to _click_ in the timeline area first... You sound like you might have had older versions, so perhaps this was obvious, but I just thought I'd mention it. Secondly, I have a Logitech mouse/keyboard and when I allow the Logitech provided (and latest from their website) app to remain as a TSR, it completely screws up the mouse motion in Blender, and GIMP oddly enough. Kill it (or exit it) and things work perfectly fine. So maybe _removing_ the manufacturer provided software might be the answer. (did I mention I miss focus-follows-mouse?) =) __________________ CraigL

September 9th, 2010, 11:44 PM	#4
Ken Jarstad Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bremerton, Washington Posts: 47	I have VMS 9 and 10 running on Win7 32 bit, home built Q9400 / ASUS and my mouse wheel gets no response. I have tried three different Microsoft mouses, both PS2 and USB. Clicking in the timeline context makes no difference. It's not a show stopper, of course, but zooming in and out would be more efficient with the mouse wheel and I am disappointed that it doesn't work for me. __________________ -=Ken=- - OS = Linux KDE Neon

September 13th, 2010, 09:59 PM	#5
Peter Greis Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 41	Mouse Problem I'm having the exact same problem. I have a dual boot machine. Vegas 9e Windows XP - mouse scroll wheel works fine for zooming on timeline. Vegas 9e 64 on Windows 7 64 bit - mouse scroll wheel works only occasionally as you spin the wheel Its a Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 with the latest Win7-64 drivers. Very strange. I'm going to try another mouse, but that means another connection (the 6000 keyboard and mouse have an intergrated receiver).

September 15th, 2010, 01:07 PM	#6
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Same issue here,Win 7 64 and Vegas 9e 64, MS Arc mouse works fine, and with the same set of drivers blue led mouse don't, well, almost doesn't, you have to spin the wheel real hard and it's not precise, __________________ I love this place!

September 15th, 2010, 03:06 PM	#7
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	bizarre, i run 64bit 7 and XP and have never seen this with any of my mouses/mice. when someone works this one out it will be interesting. __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

September 15th, 2010, 03:49 PM	#8
Dennis Murphy Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Whangarei, New Zealand Posts: 396	Nope, nothing I do fixes it - wireless lasermouse 5000. It's damn frustrating, as zooming in and out on the timeline with the wheel is obviously an unnoticed significant part of my routine, because having to use the +/- is frustrating the living insert expletive out of me. Aaaaargh! __________________ http://www.dmvideostuff.co.nz

September 15th, 2010, 05:49 PM	#9
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	hmmmmm, the plot thickens, I have the lasermouse 5000 as well......... no dramas. __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

September 15th, 2010, 10:06 PM	#10
Craig Longman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, ON Posts: 175	Can't some of those mouse(s) be configured to have the wheel be scroll or zoom? I think different IDs for messages are even sent, so the app just never 'sees' a zoom. In the configuration panel for it (either in the taskbar notification or control panel) is there any setting for scroll/zoom? Or maybe if you don't have the OEM driver installed, it defaults to scroll? __________________ CraigL

September 16th, 2010, 06:40 AM	#11
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Many years ago, many people mentioned this issue. The issue always turned out to be using the Logitec driver. Uninstalling the driver that came with the mouse and using the Windows built-in driver would solve the problem. Of course it also eliminated the use of the extra functions available on the mouse. So I would strongly suspect that it IS a driver issue. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 16th, 2010, 03:05 PM	#12
Dennis Murphy Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Whangarei, New Zealand Posts: 396	No Logitech driver here. I've just found a fix which is not satisfactory for me - I dug out a cheap ps2 $10 clunky mouse that I keep as a back-up and the wheel works perfectly. The problem is, that now I can't assign 'undo' to the wheel button. That's all I need - to be able to zoom the timeline with the wheel and undo with the wheel button. I've uninstalled all mouse drivers, disable/enabled etc and no luck. God is getting me back for all that porn. __________________ http://www.dmvideostuff.co.nz

September 18th, 2010, 11:44 AM	#13
Craig Longman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, ON Posts: 175	Still playing around with this mouse thing, I noticed something odd. First off, ALT-Scroll works for me as zoom as well as no ALT. Secondly, after using ALT, I find that the wheel handling gets screwed up, SHIFT, CTRL nor plain Scroll work, until I tap the ALT key again... A bit annoying, having to remember to tap the ALT key, but if ALT-Scroll works, seeing as your hand are likely near there, might be easier than the other options. __________________ CraigL

September 18th, 2010, 02:38 PM	#14
Dennis Murphy Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Whangarei, New Zealand Posts: 396	Due to not being a highly technical dude around drivers etc, I wonder if it is somthing to do with how Win7 handles USB in conjunction with Vegas? __________________ http://www.dmvideostuff.co.nz

September 19th, 2010, 09:12 PM	#15
Peter Greis Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 41	I've tried the vanilla drivers with Win7 64 and the Intellipoint drivers from Microsoft. No difference, the scroll wheel only works if you really spin it and then not consistently when used on the time line. It's interesting that it's only the time line in Vegas that has problems. Using the scroll wheel on say the explorer window or the transitions window works fine. I'm going to try another mosue (currently Microsoft Laser mouse 6000).