DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? at DVinfo.net

Darryn Carroll · June 21st, 2012, 12:11 AM

Stuck again, first week using Vegas. After editing, I now have 32 clips from a dance recital, all labeled with name of song. I now need to create the dvd and menu. I have learned a few things for next time, but can i be saved with a fairly simple workflow/method?:

Main Menu: Simple "Play Show" that would play everything start to finish. (unfortunately, i did not fade out of each individual clip, i would certainly do this next time).

Act 1 Dances: the first 16 dances

Act 2 Dances: the second 16 dances.

I was able to configure a good menu with submenus on architect, and I could have used a playlist for the "Play All" feature, but i would need to fade in/out for a smooth transition.

Ironically, i have this setup perfectly on Cyberlink PowerDirector, only drawback is they only allow 3-4 chapters per page. 10 pages of submenus is certainly unacceptable!!

Will try again in the morning, thanx all.

Ron Evans · June 21st, 2012, 04:21 AM

Assemble in Vegas, name the markers at each dance, do your fades audio and video then render from Vegas making sure to check to include markers in the render. In DVDArchitect start new project, from explorer drag file over the opening menu page. When set right click on video file icon and insert submenu. This will place another button on the menu page and will create pages of the named dances. Go to the insert dropdown and set an empty button and name that act 2, in action select the first dance of act 2. That is very fast input but may get you going. In Vegas find some good points to extract stills and use as menu backgrounds. I mainly use text only for my buttons but you can set the background of the buttons to what you want too.

Hope that has got you started.

Ron Evans

Mike Kujbida · June 21st, 2012, 04:58 AM

Darryn, you'll find your life much easier if you assemble all the segments on a single timeline, add markers at the beginning of each segment and encode (i.e. render) everything as a single Vegas file.
I shoot a number of plays each year and produce a DVD that has a PLAY ALL button as well as buttons for each scene.
The procedure I use was linked to in your previous thread.

Edward Troxel · June 21st, 2012, 06:25 AM

Darryn, you might want to take a look at my newsletters here: www.jetdv.com

There's a few issues that deal with rendering for DVD and authoring a DVD. Just look through the various issues.

Darryn Carroll · June 21st, 2012, 07:20 AM

Thanks all, I will take a look at "markers" and try again, will also read those threads and newsletters, thanks for support, this is a great place to come when I start to panic :)

Darryn Carroll · June 21st, 2012, 03:13 PM

A great day, thanx for all help, was able to get a good looking menu, with submenus, 16 clips per submenu, text only, text size 12. 2 newer questions:

1: how do i change the thumbnails on main menu? I have 4 links but are all same thumbnail.

2: can i change the "hover-link" color on my text menus? the text is white and when you scroll through them on dvd player, they only change to a tiny off-white color, kinda hard to see when clicking through.

Edward Troxel · June 22nd, 2012, 06:32 AM

#1 Click on the button. On the right-hand side you will see many properties. Click on "Media" and you will then see "Thumbnail Properties". Change the "Start Time" to be the frame you want to show. It's possible to also have animated thumbnails. Then animated length will be the same as the menu length.

#2 Click on the MENU. In the same right-hand side properties, go to "Color Sets" and adjust the colors as you desire.

Darryn Carroll · June 22nd, 2012, 08:59 AM

Thanks everyone, all your guidance has helped me create a pro-looking DVD. I will purchase Sony Vegas with Architect and continue reading, viewing and learning. A bit cliche, but i could not have done this without all your input! Screenshots below. Thanks again all!

http://www.harborviewvideo.com/1.jpg

http://www.harborviewvideo.com/2.jpg

Adam Stanislav · June 22nd, 2012, 09:48 AM

Looks good, Darryn, other than the typo where you typed Extra’s instead of Extras. :)

Darryn Carroll · June 22nd, 2012, 10:01 AM

Thanx Adam, fixing it now :)

Ron Evans · June 22nd, 2012, 10:39 AM

DVDA should also have placed buttons for top menu, back and forward on the sub menu when you let it automatically create from markers.

Ron Evans

Darryn Carroll · June 22nd, 2012, 11:01 AM

I did get the "Back" button automatically.....

Darryn Carroll · June 23rd, 2012, 08:02 AM

New development, I need to replace a clip.As suggested, I created my 2 hour video with 32 markers (used as chapters), rendered and authored in DVDA. I need to edit and replace a chapter 19 (not just trim unfortunately) so just wondering if I am basically going back to Vegas, edit, render again, then will my DVDA project need to be started from scratch?

Edward Troxel · June 23rd, 2012, 08:16 AM

I would make the changed in Vegas and then render the whole thing out again.

Darryn Carroll · June 23rd, 2012, 08:23 AM

Thanx Ed, what about when I go to DVDA, can I import without losing all my menu structures?

June 21st, 2012, 04:58 AM	#3
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Darryn, you'll find your life much easier if you assemble all the segments on a single timeline, add markers at the beginning of each segment and encode (i.e. render) everything as a single Vegas file. I shoot a number of plays each year and produce a DVD that has a PLAY ALL button as well as buttons for each scene. The procedure I use was linked to in your previous thread.

June 21st, 2012, 06:25 AM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Darryn, you might want to take a look at my newsletters here: www.jetdv.com There's a few issues that deal with rendering for DVD and authoring a DVD. Just look through the various issues. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

June 21st, 2012, 07:20 AM	#5
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Thanks all, I will take a look at "markers" and try again, will also read those threads and newsletters, thanks for support, this is a great place to come when I start to panic :)

June 21st, 2012, 03:13 PM	#6
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? A great day, thanx for all help, was able to get a good looking menu, with submenus, 16 clips per submenu, text only, text size 12. 2 newer questions: 1: how do i change the thumbnails on main menu? I have 4 links but are all same thumbnail. 2: can i change the "hover-link" color on my text menus? the text is white and when you scroll through them on dvd player, they only change to a tiny off-white color, kinda hard to see when clicking through.

June 22nd, 2012, 06:32 AM	#7
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? #1 Click on the button. On the right-hand side you will see many properties. Click on "Media" and you will then see "Thumbnail Properties". Change the "Start Time" to be the frame you want to show. It's possible to also have animated thumbnails. Then animated length will be the same as the menu length. #2 Click on the MENU. In the same right-hand side properties, go to "Color Sets" and adjust the colors as you desire. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

June 21st, 2012, 12:11 AM	#1
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Stuck again, first week using Vegas. After editing, I now have 32 clips from a dance recital, all labeled with name of song. I now need to create the dvd and menu. I have learned a few things for next time, but can i be saved with a fairly simple workflow/method?: Main Menu: Simple "Play Show" that would play everything start to finish. (unfortunately, i did not fade out of each individual clip, i would certainly do this next time). Act 1 Dances: the first 16 dances Act 2 Dances: the second 16 dances. I was able to configure a good menu with submenus on architect, and I could have used a playlist for the "Play All" feature, but i would need to fade in/out for a smooth transition. Ironically, i have this setup perfectly on Cyberlink PowerDirector, only drawback is they only allow 3-4 chapters per page. 10 pages of submenus is certainly unacceptable!! Will try again in the morning, thanx all.

June 21st, 2012, 04:21 AM	#2
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Assemble in Vegas, name the markers at each dance, do your fades audio and video then render from Vegas making sure to check to include markers in the render. In DVDArchitect start new project, from explorer drag file over the opening menu page. When set right click on video file icon and insert submenu. This will place another button on the menu page and will create pages of the named dances. Go to the insert dropdown and set an empty button and name that act 2, in action select the first dance of act 2. That is very fast input but may get you going. In Vegas find some good points to extract stills and use as menu backgrounds. I mainly use text only for my buttons but you can set the background of the buttons to what you want too. Hope that has got you started. Ron Evans

June 22nd, 2012, 08:59 AM	#8
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Thanks everyone, all your guidance has helped me create a pro-looking DVD. I will purchase Sony Vegas with Architect and continue reading, viewing and learning. A bit cliche, but i could not have done this without all your input! Screenshots below. Thanks again all! http://www.harborviewvideo.com/1.jpg http://www.harborviewvideo.com/2.jpg

June 22nd, 2012, 09:48 AM	#9
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Looks good, Darryn, other than the typo where you typed Extra’s instead of Extras. :)

June 22nd, 2012, 10:01 AM	#10
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Thanx Adam, fixing it now :)

June 22nd, 2012, 10:39 AM	#11
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? DVDA should also have placed buttons for top menu, back and forward on the sub menu when you let it automatically create from markers. Ron Evans

June 22nd, 2012, 11:01 AM	#12
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? I did get the "Back" button automatically.....

June 23rd, 2012, 08:02 AM	#13
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? New development, I need to replace a clip.As suggested, I created my 2 hour video with 32 markers (used as chapters), rendered and authored in DVDA. I need to edit and replace a chapter 19 (not just trim unfortunately) so just wondering if I am basically going back to Vegas, edit, render again, then will my DVDA project need to be started from scratch?

June 23rd, 2012, 08:16 AM	#14
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? I would make the changed in Vegas and then render the whole thing out again. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

June 23rd, 2012, 08:23 AM	#15
Darryn Carroll Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 255	Re: DVD Architect workflow, must be an easier way? Thanx Ed, what about when I go to DVDA, can I import without losing all my menu structures?