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Edward Troxel October 23rd, 2004 10:41 PM

It's listed in the "Free Scripts" section at the link under my name.

Dwight Flynn October 24th, 2004 12:26 AM

Thanks Edward, I will look it up.

Kaku Ito October 24th, 2004 09:58 AM

Rob,
I would imagine from what we heard from Sony Pictures about Vegas being "already works", then guessing it IS working, but actually not.
Mark is trying to edit with the files I posted with Vegas 5 and he is saying no problem at least to edit.

ConnectHD is distributed in Japan by a company I know, so I will ask them to provide it for testing.

And Bill, which card is working? Like Bubble fish? We sell a lot of Decklink HD so, if Decklink HD works it would have been super.

Bill Ravens October 24th, 2004 10:21 AM

http://cineform.com/products/ConnectHD.htm

Ray Gnaw October 24th, 2004 06:37 PM

24fps + Widescreen?
 
Hello!

I just finished a project and would like to import it onto my Sony TRV-10. But I have been having trouble getting it to be 24fps, or even, widescreen. I would really appreciate any advice on getting either, or both, effect to work.

Thanks so much!

edit: I'm using Vegas 5.0b

Rob Lohman October 25th, 2004 02:38 AM

Doesn't work here either. It gives an ASP error that it cannot
instatiate an object. Same happens when I try to retrieve my
password (think I forgot it).

Rob Lohman October 25th, 2004 03:48 AM

Kaku: I think they are referring to the fact it can *EDIT* the files,
they just "forget" to tell us it can't capture the files (yet). Doh!

Rob Lohman October 25th, 2004 04:08 AM

Welcome aboard Ray! I'm not exactly sure what you are doing?
Are you capturing the footage from your Sony camera to your
computer or do you want to transfer your edited footage back
from the computer to your camera?

In both cases the camera will not support 24 fps. It will probably
also not support 16:9 anamorphic widescreen. However, if your
output is DVD (for example) you can simulate both if you want
to after the capture process.

If you give us some more information on what you are trying to
do exactly then we can better stear you in the right direction!

Michael Morlan October 25th, 2004 02:35 PM

The reason to migrate high-end hardware features to software-only systems is to feed the purchase chain upwards. Having a major feature of a hardware-based system like Xpri in a software-only system like Vegas won't cannibalize Xpri sales. Those demanding true real-time performance and quick turnaround will still want the hardware. And those who, after becoming accustomed to neat features in a software only package, will migrate to high-end hardware as their demand for throughput increases.

Additionally, the high end stuff is the first to address the latest and greatest video standards - HD right now. Software based solutions can't hope to keep up until general purpose hardware (read: a PC or Mac) catch up. By then, the dedicated hardware has taken the next leap.

Discreet has proven this with its line of visual effects tools from the software only Combustion through the original Flame and Flint hardware series.

Richard Alvarez October 25th, 2004 04:28 PM

Yeah,
that's exactly the line of reasoning with Avid. They won't migrate stuff downward...

UNTIL a competitor puts it in their software only version. Then they move it down. Everytime FCP makes an "advance" on Avid Xpress DvPro... Avid unlocks the feature set and releases the feature to Xpress Pro owners. I've used a Composer, I know that the same features are "locked" in my XpressPro copy at home. And if I was un-ethical, I could by a crack to unlock it. OF course, the hardware accelerations are a seperate matter, but even the DNA line states that increasing CPU speed will increase program abilities.

Andre Andreev October 25th, 2004 05:34 PM

Try it out
 
Make sure you download the 30-day evaluation of Vegas/Architect and see if it has the capabilities (FX-wise) that you need.

Although it has great compositing, titiling, color correction and lots of useful effects, Vegas is more of an editor. If you need a full-blown compositing environment like AfterEffects, then you might have to go with that.

As a package offering a logical interface, very comprehensive editing features and strong comppositing capabilities, Vegas is a very economical (as in $$$ and "required processing power") and efficient combination.

It might be helpful if you list the features you are looking for.

Regards
-- Andre

Glenn Chan October 25th, 2004 10:52 PM

Premiere Pro 1.5 and Vegas are much better than Premiere.

Premiere Pro: better stability, less button-pushing. In Premiere 6.0, you might take multiple button pushes to do something that might take two in Premiere/Vegas. Premiere 6.0 also lets you lose sync, which is really annoying.
Vegas: Same as Premiere, except built into the program are a great set of audio tools, color correction, and compositing tools. You can get better compositing with After Effects or combustion if you need to do really crazy stuff.

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 26th, 2004 07:33 AM

New Build of Ultimate S
 
http://www.vasst.com/ultimate/version_descriptions.htm
Hey guys, hope you're enjoying Ultimate S thus far. We've uploaded a new build that took care of a couple things, and added a new feature regarding J/L cuts based on user request.
Download the new build if you wanna check it out.
New build is 1.0.2

thanks to all for the great feedback!

Ray Gnaw October 26th, 2004 07:32 PM

Thanks for your help Rob!

I'm trying to import footages onto my Sony that might come out to 24fps and widescreen. But now that I know it cannot, is there anyway I can make a DVD disc with a regular CD-RW, or do I need to buy a DVD burner?

Douglas Spotted Eagle October 26th, 2004 08:32 PM

Except for certain 3D extrusions and motion tracking (not the same as track motion) AE doesn't have any more bells and whistles than Vegas. Once you start getting into plugs, AE has more to offer, but as mentioned, you might as well learn Combustion. I've all but quit using AE except for very specific things. It's a good app, but there are better alternatives these days, IMO.
Vegas' compositing tools will benefit most people to their fullest needs/desires.


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