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Sony HVR-Z1 / HDR-FX1
Pro and consumer versions of this Sony 3-CCD HDV camcorder.

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Old September 7th, 2004, 12:20 AM   #1
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SONY HDV HDR-FX1 will be out Oct. 15th

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer...FX1/index.html

It's still cousumer model; will be out pro-sumer version later. (like PD)
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Old September 7th, 2004, 01:44 AM   #2
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http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5118

Here is the link for the sony press release of the new camera.
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Old September 7th, 2004, 08:36 AM   #3
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Looks like we'll need a new camera forum, eh?
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Old September 7th, 2004, 08:43 AM   #4
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24p? Anyone?

Is this camera (or it's Pro counterpart) going to support 24p?
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Old September 7th, 2004, 08:43 AM   #5
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Looks great!

I would assume that because it's part of the HDV standard that it would also record 720p and also playback my recordings from the HD1 when I upgrade! :)

Looks like the pricing is down a great deal from the original quote of $5000. $3700 for a three chip 1080i capable unit is unbelievable especially given the one chip 720p JVC is only $200 less!

The HDV specs call for both 720p and 1080i. Take a look here

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Old September 7th, 2004, 08:53 AM   #6
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No, according to the specs, you will be able to playback footage taken in 720p with the JVC, but this cam will only record in 1080i.
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Old September 7th, 2004, 09:09 AM   #7
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I like the looks of the swiveling 16:9 LCD.

So 1080i (1440x1080) means this cam is stricly interlaced which means no progressive scan 24p or 30p, correct?

Ok, nevermind, I see they have a faux 24p/30p and cine-like modes.
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Old September 7th, 2004, 09:45 AM   #8
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That's what I understand.
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Old September 7th, 2004, 10:26 AM   #9
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Whats a "a faux 24p/30p and cine-like modes."?
I really don't want to go back to interlaced video.

The cam looks great, but what do you think they are limiting by declaring it "consumer model"?
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Old September 7th, 2004, 11:27 AM   #10
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The audio is what's limited, from what I can tell. It records through a 1/8" unbalanced mini-jack! That's the biggest disappointment I see in it -- everything else looks quite positive.

24P/30P are not supported, but apparently it does some sort of in-camera simulation to deliver the look. I'm betting it'll look pretty good on standard-def TV. Keep in mind that if it shoots 1080, there's no progressive scan possible: there is no 1080p in the HDV spec. Progressive scan only happens in HDV at 30P (or 25P), and even then, only at the 720P resolution. There is no such thing as 1080/24P in HDV.

With that said, there's no such thing as 24P in DV either, yet Panasonic and Canon were able to do it. JVC has announced that their $20,000 2/3" shoulder-mount camera will be 1080/24P, so they'll probably implement it the same way as Panasonic and Canon have done in DV.

Very surprised at the low price! Looking forward to seeing if they actually do offer a pro model with real XLR connectors. But don't expect 24P, it's not going to happen with this camera.
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Old September 7th, 2004, 11:36 AM   #11
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> Whats a "a faux 24p/30p and cine-like modes."?
> I really don't want to go back to interlaced video.

They have to leave something for the "pro" version, don't you think? It's probably an in-camera deinterlacing algorithm. With luck, it might also turn of the vertical HPF usually present in interlaced video cameras and thus the result would be somewhat better than deinterlacing in post.
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Old September 7th, 2004, 11:43 AM   #12
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Thank God! Manual Controls!

FRom http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5118

"And for ultimate control, the iris, gain, white balance, shutter speed and focus can also be adjusted manually. "

AND real F-STOP Markings!

Why can't JVC do this on their HDV cameras?

Well I guess JVC will lose market share to Sony in HDV products.
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Old September 7th, 2004, 11:55 AM   #13
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CineForm? Editing?

Sony will have a press hands-on session tomorrow, Wed.

But only Apple has announced editing support in Final Cut pro?

Where is Cine Frorm on this?

Any other vendors for PC editing of HDV with the Sony HDV cam?
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Old September 7th, 2004, 12:17 PM   #14
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The camera does not support 24p, but.....

One of the reasons the JVC camera sucked in terms of converting to 24p is because there is no easy way to convert 30p to 24, but if the rules for converting DV 60i to 24p apply to HDV as well, will it not be easier to convert HDV 60i to 24p?

I use vegas and there are many tutorials for doing this with DV.

I know this is speculation until we can actually get our hands on the camera, but......what do you think?
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Old September 7th, 2004, 12:22 PM   #15
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Re: CineForm and the new Sony camera.

This is the annoucement CineForm has been waiting for. We have been working on supported this camera for sometime. Aspect HD has planned for 1440x1080 60i HDV for sometime, however there will be a free upgrade to Aspect HD and Connect HD to directly support the Sony camera in time for its arrival. Aspect HD will again be the highest performing HDV editing solution -- expect the performance gap between CineForm solutions and our competitors to increase.
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