CineForm and Premiere Pro CS3 / After Effects

[Robert Young]

As soon as I updated to CS3.1.1, PPro started locking up and crashing in the Cineform project I was in the middle of. I also got error messages regarding some problem with (I think this is right) "Photoshop Server.exe" refusing to close- both when loading the project, and when turning the system off.
For lack of anything better to do, I uninstalled Aspect HD (the latest version), rebooted and reinstalled it, and all seems well so far. We shall see.
I am a born sucker for updates, but it is not always a happy experience.

[Graham Hickling]

Working fine here, with AspectHD 5.1 projects.

[Stephen Armour]

Originally Posted by Robert Young

...I am a born sucker for updates, but it is not always a happy experience.

Yeah, I know the feeling Robert! I'm one too...

Graham, I'm glad you've seen no glitches so far. I'm getting paranoid on updates, so good news is welcome!

Unfortunately, like Robert, I'm a sucker for them and can't wait to see if there are major issues. Thankfully, so far, so good for us.

[Robert Young]

I am in the middle of an Aspect HD project and was having no problems until the PPro 3.1.1 upgrade. Now I am getting PPro freeze ups when rendering timeline previews (pan n' scan of stills, color corrected clips, even crossfades on titling). I will also get random freeze ups when attempting to play timeline previews.
After freezing up, it requires a system reboot to get PPro up and running again. It's at a point where the software is almost unusable to get any work done.
Maybe I'll have to just reinstall PPro 3.0. I don't see a way to roll back the 3.1.1 upgrade. Any other ideas would be appreciated and I would be interested to know if anyone else is having any problems with PP 3.1.1 + Aspect HD 5.2.1.
Thanks
Win XP Pro, Intel Quad, 4 Gig RAM, Quadro fx 1500 card with latest drivers,
Sys Drive: SATA, Media Drive: RAID 0, Export Drive: SATA

[Mark Leonard]

can anyone point me to a workflow thread on using after effects cs3 for downres? wanting to find anyone's workflow using cineform, cs3, and ae to get that perfect quality sd dvd :)

encore stinks on ice

[David Newman]

It help to know if you trying one of the follow:

1) Downresing from 50i/60i to interlaced SD.
2) Downresing from 50i/60i to progressive SD.
3) Downresing from 24/25/30p to progressive SD.

Workflow is different for each.

[Mark Leonard]

60i to progressive sd-dvd. just want to know how to fit ae in this equation.

thanks

[David Newman]

For that I think HDLink would be higher quality. Import you HD 60i AVI master, and select deinterlace and resize to NTSC 16x9, then convert.

[Erich Reisenberger]

Hi folks,

1. Is it possible to convert an existing APP 2.0 Project into a Cineform Project maintaing TC Information and tape information?

AND 2.
If you have captured with HDVSplit and edited in APP 2.0 with a cineform roject - is it somehow possible to tell the single clips which tape and TC it was - to be able to recapture later?

Oh god - how simple was it with DV!

thx
Eric

[John McGinley]

Well for #1, you can create a new Cineform project, then import your non-cineform project file into it. Once imported just select the old timeline. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to accomplish.

[Alan Mills]

I've never seen a way in Premiere of changing the propject template mid-project (so to speak). However, try this...

Start a new project with the template you want and import the original one into it. Never tried this myself and can't take credit for the idea. I simply remember reading it as a solution to this type of problem elsewhere once before. Hope it works.

[John McGinley]

I've done this many times, personally I wish adobe would just let you change project settings like they used to, but this is a suitable work around. I used it when conforming my movie from the DV proxies to 4k originals. Worked perfectly without a hitch.

[Stephen Armour]

Originally Posted by John McGinley

I've done this many times, personally I wish adobe would just let you change project settings like they used to, but this is a suitable work around. I used it when conforming my movie from the DV proxies to 4k originals. Worked perfectly without a hitch.

John, can you expand on that just a bit? Sounds interesting! How do you edit with DV proxies at the size they are and then switch to 4K originals?

Maybe it's simpler than it sounds, but it could save us some worktime on the 1920 material we're doing. DV stuff is fast to edit, full HD is not...

[John McGinley]

Without turning this into a Premiere thread, you create a 4k project, import the DV edit, offline the clips, relink them to the 4k clips that have the exact same TC and frame count.

Only really works if you have separate audio tracks from the clips.

I did this when we created a Cineform 1920x1080 file that we use as our master for Blu Ray and HD-DVD which I'm currently stumbling through right now.

The Cineform copy of our movie looks awesome.

If you want to know more about it... www.postcardsfromthefuture.net

[Hernan Vilchez]

How to do it?

How to manage the project and which export settings in CS3, XP SP2?

I have M-Audio FW 410 firewire audio interface, with 8 outputs, DVD authoring with Encore.

Thanks in advance!

(...perhaps its a quest for Premiere´s forum?)