NeoHD/4K/3D v5.0 public betas now available

[Marty Baggen]

I just snagged the trial version... as long as there's no limitations to it, I should be fine.

[Stephen Armour]

Have you viewed your output with VirtualDub? If all viewers look the same, it's probably not a conflict with Media Player. Good to discount that one first.

[David Dwyer]

Originally Posted by Stephen Armour

Have you viewed your output with VirtualDub? If all viewers look the same, it's probably not a conflict with Media Player. Good to discount that one first.

Only have WM and VLC which doesnt play CFHD files.


But again if I come back to using Neo 4.3 and windows media the line isnt there?

I'll download VD now then

EDIT

Yes the line is there in VD.

[Stephen Armour]

Originally Posted by David Dwyer

Only have WM and VLC which doesnt play CFHD files.


But again if I come back to using Neo 4.3 and windows media the line isnt there?

I'll download VD now then

EDIT

Yes the line is there in VD.

Narrowing down. Better post it again as a possible bug and give your whole setup workflow so others with similar setups can test it. Need to squash that one if it's there for sure!

[Marty Baggen]

David... my system didn't like your project file. Can you give me the settings of your project and sequence, and output settings as well.

[David Dwyer]

Originally Posted by Marty Baggen

David... my system didn't like your project file. Can you give me the settings of your project and sequence, and output settings as well.

Odd its just a CS4 project file but I was using the Cineform Preset:

General
Editing mode: CineForm
Timebase: 25.00fps

Video Settings
Frame size: 1440h 1080v (1.3333)
Frame rate: 25.00 frames/second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: HD Anamorphic 1080 (1.333)
Fields: Upper Field First

Audio Settings
Sample rate: 48000 samples/second

Default Sequence
Total video tracks: 3
Master track type: Stereo
Mono tracks: 0
Stereo tracks: 3
5.1 tracks: 0
Submix mono tracks: 0
Submix stereo tracks: 0
Submix 5.1 tracks: 0

**************

Exporting to CF AVI

1440*1080
1.33 PAR
25fps PAL
Upper Field

[David Newman]

David, please work with support, as you have a number of outstanding issues (with this very footage) that others can't reproduce -- this thread is not the place for detailed support. However can report, I have tested this using the same footage (yours), and it does not do it here. I have tried many combinations, max quality on/off, 1920x1080 vs 1440x1080, 3D and 2D exports. Do check you export settings, as maybe the preset is wrong for 1440x1080@50i. I'm running a Premiere beta release, one version earlier than yours (don't expect that this is the cause) but I'm getting an Premiere crash when selecting "Match Sequence Settings", this is not pointing to our code (rather a Premiere error "[..\..\Src\CompilerMixer.cpp-66]"), so it either means I need the release CS5 or the preset is odd. Manually setting the parameters for the export works fine.

[Marty Baggen]

David..... as per your settings and with your footage, I am unable to replicate the frame shift.

My output is clean.

If it were me, I would recapture. That's the first link in the chain. I know you get a clean output with the previous Cineform version, but it's a quick task and it may be the gremlin we're looking for.

If not.. then indeed, it may be a bug of some sort.

[David Dwyer]

Originally Posted by David Newman

David, please work with support, as you have a number of outstanding issues (with this very footage) that others can't reproduce -- this thread is not the place for detailed support. However can report, I have tested this using the same footage (yours), and it does not do it here. I have tried many combinations, max quality on/off, 1920x1080 vs 1440x1080, 3D and 2D exports. Do check you export settings, as maybe the preset is wrong for 1440x1080@50i. I'm running a Premiere beta release, one version earlier than yours (don't expect that this is the cause) but I'm getting an Premiere crash when selecting "Match Sequence Settings", this is not pointing to our code (rather a Premiere error "[..\..\Src\CompilerMixer.cpp-66]"), so it either means I need the release CS5 or the preset is odd. Manually setting the parameters for the export works fine.

Originally Posted by Marty Baggen

David..... as per your settings and with your footage, I am unable to replicate the frame shift.

My output is clean.

If it were me, I would recapture. That's the first link in the chain. I know you get a clean output with the previous Cineform version, but it's a quick task and it may be the gremlin we're looking for.

If not.. then indeed, it may be a bug of some sort.

Thanks Marty, Its odd but as its 3:20AM here the recapture will have to wait till later - Off to bed now

I have CS4 full and CS5 Trial installed on this PC.

If is the source footage I'll go mad - Thanks all

[Sherri Nestico]

Didn't read this thread before I installed NeoHD 5 beta over my existing NeoHD. So I didn't realize (remember) that I needed to uninstall 4. However, I did a "request activation" for 5 and and received an activation key, but it doesn't work. Don't exactly know why - I guess the key is good for v4 only?

What do I do now? Just wait til v5 becomes final and then request activation again? Or do I have to uninstall version 4? Ack!!!

[David Newman]

Not too dopey. You can't activate yet as this is beta, we will enough e-commerce for doing upgrade last this week. The recommendation for un-installing is unrelated to activation, it just means we know you have a clean install when new components are added.

[Edwin Baldwin]

What is the interpolation curve between keyframes in NeoHD First Light?

Ed B

[David Newman]

Edwin, Linear interpolation for now.

[Stephen Armour]

David, the NEO4K 5.0 beta works well, but FL is still interpreting 30 fps I-frame only video as 24fps.

Will that little fix make it into the Friday release?

BTW, congrads on the new tools and other things in FL! Really great stuff and very welcome.

[David Newman]

Stephen, That is not a FL bug, so it will not fixed as it is your file that way (FL is only displaying the metadata is it given.) If new conversions still do it, than report to support with full details and a sample source.