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Greg Boston August 1st, 2005 05:22 PM

It is just a warning Ed. The software is letting you know that it will have to create frames to add to your video for the transition and that it may not look the way you want it to as a result. If it looks good to you this way, then I wouldn't fret over it much.

-gb-

Brent Ray August 1st, 2005 10:44 PM

Like Greg said, if it looks good to you, there's no reason to change it. Ultimately when you're editing, you just want to create a good looking film. Regardless of any weird anomalies or errors you get, if you like the way it looks... keep it!

Dmitry Yun August 2nd, 2005 02:47 PM

Programs
 
You don't neccesarily have to crop the footage and lose some of your image for this. There are photo uprez programs like Photozoom Pro that you can use to make your footage 16:9 without resolution loss. In fact it's uprez so I think it even ends up looking better. There is the whole entire process description on one of the www.dvxuser.com threads by a guy named Disjecta.

Good luck,
I have a GL2 as well by the way and it works beautifully.

Christopher Lefchik August 2nd, 2005 07:21 PM

Dmitry,

Interesting. I found the post (http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=6844.)
Quote:

You don't neccesarily have to crop the footage and lose some of your image for this.
If you want to make anamorphic 16:9 footage from a 4:3 source and keep the aspect ratio correct, part of the frame has to be cropped off. There's no way around this.

Dmitry Yun August 2nd, 2005 09:05 PM

Sorry
 
Yeah sorry I meant you don't have to crop as much as you would and lose like half a persons head :) Otherwise you're right my mistake (just trying to help) hehe.

Peace

Tyler Panah August 3rd, 2005 03:56 AM

I will try Prozoom. One question, what are TIFF frames?
Thanks a bunch guys

Christopher Lefchik August 3rd, 2005 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmitry Yun
Yeah sorry I meant you don't have to crop as much as you would and lose like half a persons head :)

Whether cropping in Premiere or Photozoom Pro the same amount of image would have to be taken off to make the 16:9 footage. I don't know exactly how the process would work in Photozoom Pro, but in Premiere the footage could be shifted up or down to prevent vital parts of the footage from being cropped off.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmitry Yun
Otherwise you're right my mistake (just trying to help) hehe.

No problem. Thanks for sharing the program.

Christopher Lefchik August 3rd, 2005 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Panah
I will try Prozoom. One question, what are TIFF frames?

TIFF is a still image format.

Graeme Brown August 3rd, 2005 10:37 AM

My machine has an old-ish Matrox video card which works ok, but if I increase the size of the monitor window by too much the playback gets really jerky. Ideally I'd like to display a large size monitor window on the second monitor rather than have to output via firewire to a tv - has anyone achieved this?

Scott Lovejoy August 3rd, 2005 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graeme Brown
My machine has an old-ish Matrox video card which works ok, but if I increase the size of the monitor window by too much the playback gets really jerky. Ideally I'd like to display a large size monitor window on the second monitor rather than have to output via firewire to a tv - has anyone achieved this?

I'm pretty sure there's a way to do it in Premier Pro 1.5, by default with my video card if I play an .avi (or any other video extensions) it automatically displays on the secondary display in full screen. It sucks if you have anything behind it, but I have it setup so that everything is on one screen and the video is on the other.

Hugh DiMauro August 4th, 2005 08:23 AM

Ripple Question (And I don't mean the cheap wine!)
 
Can anybody tell me the command or shortcut enabling me to be able to drop a clip between two other clips making the clips to the right automatically move down the timeline?

Roger Averdahl August 4th, 2005 09:00 AM

If you are using Premiere Pro:
Press Ctrl or Ctrl+Alt while dragging the clip to the timeline.

/Roger

Hugh DiMauro August 4th, 2005 09:45 AM

Pressing CTRL or CTR+Alt will make the clips to the right of the clip I drop on the timeline move down automatically? I will try that. May I ask another question?

Why does moving a larger clip over top of a smaller clip make the smaller clip completely disappear?

Lorinda Norton August 4th, 2005 10:40 AM

I can't resist the opportunity.... ;)
 
Dear Hugh,

"Drag and Drop Editing
The Premiere Pro interface has been redesigned to reduce the need to switch between different tools. Trimming is as easy as dragging the edges of a clip, or you can use the separate Trim window for more precise editing. You can perform basic operations with drag and drop editing by using keyboard modifiers:

- To delete or move a clip, just click and drag to Lift a clip: Delete it and leave a gap on the timeline, without affecting the adjacent clips. Or hold down the Ctrl key as you click to Extract the clip: Ripple Delete it and close the gap by sliding down the rest of the timeline contents.

- To overlay or insert a clip, again just drag and drop to perform the basic operation: Overlay it on top of the current contents of the timeline. Or hold down Ctrl as you drop to Insert the clip, and shift over the rest of the timeline contents.

That's not too hard to remember: just drag and drop to affect just the clip, or hold the Ctrl key to ripple the edit along the timeline. This trick even works when you are doing a drag and drop to perform two actions in one operation: you have the option to hold or release Ctrl both when dragging, and then when dropping, so you can lift or extract and then overlay or insert all in one smooth operation.

To make this process even easier to learn, Premiere Pro changes the cursor icon at each point in an edit operation, and also provides a dynamic text message hint in the status area at the bottom of the screen.

For more fun, you can hold the Alt key at the same time to have the operation only affect the selected target tracks, instead of the entire timeline. You also can select multiple clips and apply edits to all of them at once."

from your Vegas-using pal,

Brian Tori August 4th, 2005 10:57 AM

HDV Plugin for Premiere 6.5?
 
Is there a current or soon to be released plugin that allows 6.5 to capture/edit HDV?

Roger Averdahl August 4th, 2005 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh DiMauro
Why does moving a larger clip over top of a smaller clip make the smaller clip completely disappear?

What you describe is a overlay edit and thats what PPro do by default when adding any media to the timeline, thats why the clips seems to disappear.

/Roger

Hugh DiMauro August 4th, 2005 02:28 PM

I understand the overlay edit but what I mean is, I cannot find the covered clip at all! It's like the clip covering it had erased it. When I move the clip covering it, the clip I covered is no longer underneath where I placed it. Does that make sense?

Roger Averdahl August 4th, 2005 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh DiMauro
...I cannot find the covered clip at all! It's like the clip covering it had erased it.

Read about Trimming with the Trim pointer in the PPro Help. You can trim out the material that has been overlayed very easily, so the clip is not actually erased. :)

To avoid those situations in the future, always be careful when you drag media into the timeline so that you dont by mistake overlay material, use more video tracks, and never forget Ctrl+Z. Another way to avoid it is to lock video tracks. Lock tracks are not the best solution always though...

/Roger

Dylan Johns August 5th, 2005 01:36 AM

Previewing through tv is not working, help!
 
Hi,

I've been tryin to preview the video from my timeline in premiere pro 1.5 through a tv but it dosen't seem to be working. When i captured the video it showed up fine on the tv but it won't show the video from the timeline. I've got the camera connected to the firewire card, and from the camera to the tv with um... the red yellow and white cord. I've also had a look under project-project settings-genral and tried to change it but i don't know, it dosen't want to work

Ed Smith August 5th, 2005 12:06 PM

Hi Dylan,

Your camera has to be able to support dv to analogue pass-thru. If your camera does not then it won't work.

If it does then you need to make sure you have DV Playback Settings set correctly.

Go Project menu > Project settings> General
Select Playback Settings
Make sure that 'Play Video on DV Hardware' is ticked
Make sure that in Real-Time Playback settings, 'Playback on DV hardware and Desktop' is selected

That should be it!

Hope this helps,

Dylan Johns August 5th, 2005 05:20 PM

my camera has a av-dv out mode which can be turned on and off. its a canon mv630i (pal)

Nic Brown August 6th, 2005 07:03 PM

Volume control in adobe premier pro
 
Hey, I used to use all of the old school adobes and ever since I've started with adobe pro I noticed a huge thing missing. the volume control band thingies. Whats the deal with that? Fading and controlling audio levels used to be as easy as a few click and moving the rubber bands around - and now all there is is audio gain which causes terrible static whenever you use it to turn the volume up. Not only that, but the audio transitions are limited to two fairly garbage choices: constant power and constant gain [ if i'm not mistaken] am I missing something here? Is there something equivalent to the rubber band tools in older versions that I can use? please help!

Christopher Lefchik August 6th, 2005 09:16 PM

Nic,

You can still adjust the audio volume in the timeline. However, the procedure is different in Premiere Pro, as the new pen tool is used to add and adjust keyframes.

From the Premiere Pro help file:

To edit a clip or track's audio levels in the Timeline window:

1. In the Timeline window, expand a track's view, if necessary, by clicking the expansion triangle next to the track name.
2. Click the Show Keyframes button, and choose Show Clip Volume or Show Track Volume from the menu that appears.
3. Use the pen tool to adjust the level uniformly (if keyframes have not been added) or to add or edit keyframes.

Jesse Parsh August 7th, 2005 07:38 AM

PP has a great audio controls. The audio mixer allows you to follow through your timeline and use tools such as the write, read, latch and touch tools. With these all you need to do is adjust the volume control and it will do the same thing as the pen tool and keyframes. I never used any older versions of Premiere but for what I understand the audio in 1.5 surpasses all previous versions.

Jared Thomas August 7th, 2005 01:45 PM

exporting project to dvd
 
is there any way you can export your entire project to dvd within premier? i know you can export directly to dvd but as far as i know you can only export one sequence. i need to be able to export 3 sequences to dvd without another program...is this possible?

Jeff Geissler August 8th, 2005 12:42 AM

Things have slightly changed for my project. I am now doing a 30p DVD using Final Cut Studio- I have 60i footage and am thinking of shooting interview footage at 30p, and have several VHS cassettes to capture as well...

This may need to be moved over to the Final Cut thread since I'm no longer in Premiere... I needed the multi-cam editor, and Final Cut Studio just rocked my world- so I went all out and bought powermac g5 with FCS...

Any pointers for workflow/problems with different footage qualities/progressive-interlaced problems etc...??

Thanks.
~jeff

Jesse Parsh August 8th, 2005 07:05 AM

Is there any reason you need these sequences seperate? If not than just drop all of your sequences into one final sequence and export that.

Ed Smith August 8th, 2005 11:58 AM

Hi Dylan,

Make sure you are in VTR mode with AV pass-through set to DVin>Analogue(out). Provided you have told Premiere you wish to preview via firewire that really should be it.

If it don't work then I suggest you borrow a friends camera to see if it does the same....

Cheers,

Jared Thomas August 8th, 2005 12:31 PM

well i was hoping to have chapters.

Hugh DiMauro August 8th, 2005 02:35 PM

Premiere HD Update/Slower Responsiveness
 
Has anybody else noticed that after he/she downloaded the Adobe HD Cineform upgrade (1.5.1 I think) from the Adobe website, the program takes longer to load non-HD projects?

Nic Brown August 8th, 2005 06:21 PM

thanks guys
 
I'm going to try that out tonight. I knew there was no reason that they'd make one of its functions worse.

Christopher Lefchik August 8th, 2005 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse Parsh
The audio mixer allows you to follow through your timeline and use tools such as the write, read, latch and touch tools. With these all you need to do is adjust the volume control and it will do the same thing as the pen tool and keyframes. I never used any older versions of Premiere but for what I understand the audio in 1.5 surpasses all previous versions.

Premiere 6 also had the audio mixer. I do agree Premiere Pro has more audio capabilities and features than previous versions. Personally, though, when I have to make adjustments to the audio level I prefer to use the pen tool and keyframes, as I feel I can be more precise than using the audio mixer.

Christopher Lefchik August 8th, 2005 07:46 PM

No. Then again, I've had a couple big projects before the 1.5.1 update that took quite awhile to load.

Jesse Parsh August 9th, 2005 07:34 AM

3rd party mpeg encoder
 
Does anyone know if I can use a third party avi to mpeg encoder for PP and Encore? If I export an avi file out of Premiere and convert it to mpeg and put it into Encore will it be the same as if I had used the Adobe encoder or will it have a different reaction?

Christopher Lefchik August 9th, 2005 08:06 AM

Yes, you can use third party encoders to make your MPEG-2 files and then import them into Encore DVD. People do it all the time. Encore DVD doesn't care what you use to make your MPEG-2 files, as long as they meet DVD specs (bitrate isn't to high, etc).

Also, if you use Canopus ProCoder, which has an encoding plugin for Premiere Pro, then you wouldn't have to go through the process of exporting an avi and then running it through the encoder. You could encode directly from within Premiere Pro using the ProCoder engine.

Christopher Lefchik August 9th, 2005 08:12 AM

Something to consider...
 
One thing you would lose by using a third party encoding tool instead of exporting an MPEG-2 file from Premiere Pro using the Adobe Encoder is the ability to set DVD chapter marks in the Premiere timeline that are then imported into Encore DVD. This probably isn't such a big deal for shorter projects, but for longer movies it is definitely a nice feature.

I don't know if the ProCoder Premiere Pro plugin can recognize and export Premiere's timeline marks as chapter marks.

Hugh DiMauro August 9th, 2005 08:53 AM

Thanks, Chris. My projects are getting larger by the day.

Jesse Parsh August 9th, 2005 02:09 PM

Great to know. Thanks for the quick responses, it's great to have a place to go with so much information floating around.

Gordon Edge August 10th, 2005 08:18 AM

Ed,

Can this crash recording approach be made to work on HD material via firewire?

My problem is that even though I have rendered the timeline, taking 2.5 hours in this particular case, when I export to tape the rendering starts all over again from the beginning.

Gordon

Greg Jacobson August 11th, 2005 03:40 PM

How to export 16x9 grabs from Premiere Pro?
 
I simply cannot export grabs in widescreen format. They always end up as 4:3.

What is the trick?


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