Hi Marc,

I'm doing a lot of experimenting with 24p with my XL2 and PPro 1.5.1 but have a ways to go yet. As best I can tell so far, the PPro capture module is pure 60i (even showing a 29.97 timecode for 24pA and 24pN footage) and so it shouldn't matter whether or not there is a pull-down scheme in the subcode that'll tell the timeline it is 24pA or 24pN footage. In fact, as yet even the Device setting (which camcorder is being captured from) doesn't make any difference at all; I've tried capturing both 24pA and 24pN footage using the XL2 it was shot with and a GL2, each done with both the GL2 Device Setting or the Panasonic DVX100p Device Setting, and it didn't seem to affect the captured file.

As far as putting the 60i footage on a 24fps timeline, I think you're better off to work with the 60i in a 30fps project using non-drop frame timecode base, export to 24pA, then import that to the 24fps. If you work with the 60i footage directly in the 24fps timeline, I think you'll probably get either a stutter when every 4th of the 60i frames is repeated to fill enough time for 4 of the 24p frames (five 60i frames), or with time stetching, there'll be interlace artifact introduced. Since you'll probably need to create a 60i project anyway, might just as well capture to it and keep the workflows separate until everything is 24p.

But don't take all that to the bank, because I'm early on in my testing. Maybe someone who has already worked more with mixed footage can step in here -- again, I'm still experimenting and trying figure out how "A" frame flags are handled and so forth.

Try uninstalling then reinstalling your program. This happend to me after I cleaned up my harddrive one time, I think I deleted somthing important. After the reinstallation it worked just fine. If you have not recently cleaned up your drive than this might not be the problem, just figured I'd throw in my opinion though. Good luck

I installed QT 7 (the first preview release, not the latest third preview release) on my Windows install I use for non-editing tasks, such as Internet surfing. I also have Premiere Pro installed on this setup as well, and I was able to export video to the QT H.264 format. However, I don't edit on this Windows install, and I don't have After Effects on it, either, so I can't say what, if any, ill effects QT 7 may have on these Adobe programs. I haven't installed QT 7 on my main Windows editing setup yet, and don't plan to until its fairly settled that QT 7 won't mess things up. Even then I'll have a Ghost backup to fall back on if something does go bad.

At this point I'd highly recommend against installing QT 7 on your main editing rig. The risk isn't worth it at this point.

QT7 is not compatabe with some After Effects programs. When I put in on my computer, AE could find a usable QT program and disabled it. I had to finally dump QT7 and AE. Reinstall QT6, then reinstall AE 5.5 again. I'll wait until that is fixed.

Mike

Error with after effects and PP
 

I made an opening sequence to a movie using after effects, when I tried to import it into PP it says "file format not supported". What does this mean? These two programs should support each others files, right? Is there somthing I'm missing?

I have not used mine as much as I should yet, but I think you have to export the file as an AVI or Quicktime movie or another file option before it can go into PP. If you just save as... .it is an After Effects only file I believe.

Just click export and choose the file type. I hope this helps you.

Mike

I tried that and I can now import it into PP but it won't play in the timline. It will play in the right side of the monitor window but not playing it through the timeline.

I thought you had to choose make movie to render out an avi file to import into PP

I want to point out that my post was about editing both PAL and NTSC in one timeline with Adobe Elements. I also only talked about NTSC to PAL and not the other way around. I also only talked about conversions within the NLE and not outside it or indeed seperately before being added to the timeline.
I strongly recommend you experiment yourself. Pal may work perfect for you in NTSC. Think of every action movie you saw that was filmed in 24fps and converted to ntsc, they look pretty good to me. I only meant to add perspective to your dilema and by no means any concrete terms you should follow.
For action even some lower res. footage should allow you to experiment with PAl to NTSC artifacting and rendering based on action.

The best way to make the AVI file I can see is to click on Composition in the menu bar, go to Add to render que, then set your output to avi and where you want it saved and then render it. That makes a high quality avi file to inport to PP.

Add to render que is under the Composition tab, render window is under the window tab.


Mike

Got it to work, thanks for the quick responses. My movie is saved from failure.

Just an added note.

I made the avi files in several different ways, (1) render to avi, (2)export to avi, and (3)export to avi with the setting set very high. I found that the rendered movie is the largest by far. The render to avi is uncompressed, and probably the highest quality.

Mike

60i to 60p slo-mo?
 

I remember reading an article about someone who took 60i footage and converted it to 60p for a slightly slo-mo look. I believe he used After Effects. Is this just a de-interlacing issue and if so would there be any image/movement issues to contend with?
I know I've seen this article before I just can't remember where.

Eric,
I've moved your post over to the Premiere forum for better exposure; really wasn't specific to the XL2. There are quite a few threads discussing slow motion using various applications, but I don't think I found the one that you're looking for.

Perhaps you are referring to stretching 60i video by 200%? That would effectively give you one individual field per frame, instead of two fields per frame. In other words it would be 60p, although since the source was 60i the quality wouldn't be spectacular. Just make sure frame blending in After Effects is turned off. (If you change the speed to anything other than 200%, then turn frame blending on.)

That sounds about right from what I remember of the article. As far as quality goes it seemed nice and smooth without any noticeable quality loss.
Then again, we're talking a 5" inch screen in Quicktime.
Thanks for the info!

Bump.

Marlon has asked a very similar question in the XL2 forum:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?p=352946

so I'm pointing that thread to this one. Anyone who has experience pulling 60i footage into 24fps timelines using either 24pN and 24pA, please step in!

Importing fonts in PPro?
 

If I want to add new fonts to PPro, where do I put the files? PPro does not appear to share the same fonts with Windows. So putting them in the Windows font folder does no good.

thanks.

Adam,

Premiere Pro does draw fonts from the Windows font folder, in addition to a font folder shared by Adobe applications. Make sure you are viewing all the fonts in the Adobe Title Designer window font list. There should be an entry labeled "More" third from the top of the font list.

How do I crop stills/freeze frames?
 

How do I crop stills/freeze frames in Premiere Pro 1.5 without distorting the image? When I used Vegas, I could crop any frame to any size and shape and the image would remain perfect. But with Premiere Pro, when I try to crop, the image "squishes" or stretches out. How do I prevent that? I have been banging my head against the wall trying to figure it out?

The owner's manual said to hold down the shift key and drag the side but the image still distorted. What am I doing wrong?

By the way, the help section in the software did not help.

This is the sort of thing that Twixtor for After Effects was made for. In fact, I think ReVision FX has a tutorial for this on their website.

Good luck,
Ryan

Okay, found it in another thread

http://rarevision.com/articles/slow_motion.php#

Okay, found it in another thread

http://rarevision.com/articles/slow_motion.php#

Reference movie
 

Can you render out a reference movie out a of premiere? I have read about the concept; on other boards. I just haven't seen the option. Thanks.

Green Screening....
 

Have a big green screen I ordered and here is an image I tested to just get some basics down with doing green screening in premiere and AE. http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test3sj.png

I took it into AE and I was having trouble getting it to work right (still kind of a beginner). So I went back to Premiere Pro and dropped in the Green Screen Filter in Keys and It worked pretty well but its like low opacity on it still and the image I put in behind it was dark because in the green screen it didnt get rid of everything so it was just darker and it looks liek this.http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test28bh.png

What should I do to fix this? I know I didnt have the best lightning when we did the green screen shot and we have 2 theatre lights that were goign to use to make it extremely bright so there is no shadows. Will that change the outcome of the post production? Or do I need to do something in Premiere to get the full quality of using the green screen. Help would be much appreciated. THanks in advance.

-Andrew.

So far as I know that is only an option for QuickTime movies. But I believe you may be able to frameserve out of Premiere Pro, which might do what you need. Search the forum for frameserve.

A few things
 

You made the similarity way too high a number is my guess. This first pic is a frame grab after using Premiere Pro. I applied three separate chroma keys to make up for the really poor lighting and the fact that there is a lot of green in the pants. I wasted about ten minutes trying to get this done, including using a sixteen point garbage matte to make it easier.

http://www.stevengotz.com/images/greentest.jpg

As you can see, I hot a little bored and lazy since I knew how easy it was going to be in After Effects.

This second one is from After Effects 6.5 Pro using Keylight. This took 2 minutes.

http://www.stevengotz.com/images/greentest2.jpg

Thanks for taking the time to do that. I'll try doing what you mentioned with the Keylight plugin. There is nothing standard in AE that works like the greentest that comes with premiere though? I would have thought AE would come standard with something along the lines of green/blue screen but there all manual filters and its hard to work with thoughs.

Premiere 6.5 not exporting entire movie
 

Hello again,
In Premiere 6.5, I have assembled about 25 minutes of footage on the timeline.
When I try to export an DV AVI file, only 18 minutes gets exported..
I have made sure the work area encompassed all of the video clips, made sure everything was rendered, checked to see if there was blank space on the hardrive, set it to export the entire project, not just the work area. Pretty much everything and then some. Any ideas?

battle of the encoders
 

Adobie media encoder vs. canopus express procoder plugin for ppro.

From what I can tell, the encoders compress about the same speed. Colors seem brighter from canopus, but in some shots the adobie encoder looked sharper. Anyone else have the above encoders and want to throw in a review.......

John

Is the file system your exporting into NTFS or FAT32. I think FAT32 will limit your file size.

Resizing using the effect controls window allows for aspect ratio control. The other method is to apply the crop filter and adjust using the sliders or numeric controls in the effect control window.

For ultimate control over your stills, this is best acomplished in Photoshop.

Are you trying to keep the whole picture but just make it smaller, or are you looking to black out part of the picture?

My media encoder through Adobe will not register so I've been using Cucusoft.
I did not know that Canopus works as a plugin for PP. So if I get Canopus it will work inside PP 1.5? I know that you had a question and now I'm asking a question, sorry about that.

Ah that must be it. My external harddrive is FAT32.

Thank you,

Mike Wham

Edit: It works great! Thanks!

http://store.adobe.com/store/product...s_Can_ProCoder


Jesse, im starting to think the plugin is less powerful than the full version. Im almost sure someone said the full version does up to three passes. From what I can tell the plugin only does two max.


John

Progressive to interlaced, not wanted
 

I have some digital video which I'm pretty sure is 30p. When I open it in windows media player say, it shows up 'normal' looking (no jagged lines) on my computer monitor. I have brought this video into premier 7, I click on export>adobe media encoder>I make sure it is set to progressive video, and that it isn't trying to de-interlace it. Then when I watch the exported video in windows media player, it has all the jagged edges as if it were interlaced.

I've tried different project settings, and different export settings.

Any ideas why this is happening?

If the footage was progessive from start to finish, there's no way it could show interlace artifact. That makes me think that the original clip is actually 60i.

The more recent versions of WMP can de-interlace on the fly to avoid visible combing artifact. Not sure if it displays interlaced video fields sequentially, or actually de-interlaces to frames, but I'm guessing the former and for these purposes it probably doesn't matter.

If the footage was originally interlaced and then output progressive, it is possible that the original interlacing was processed into progressive frames -- which of course then would show interlacing artifacts when displayed as 30p footage because the fields are combined into a single progessive frame...essentially "hard-wired" into both fields.

Try exporting the original timeline using interlaced settings, and if it looks normal in WMP, I'll bet that the above is what's going on.

oops... I guess you were right, WMP auto-detinterlaces... I opened the original files in VLC and it showed up with the interlaced jagged edges (as long as it was set no to de-interlace). the thing is, that before I posted here, I tried treating it as interlaced within premier and it still came out wrong... but that could be because there seems to be about 5 different places where you speficy between interlaced or progressive, so maybe I missed one.

Anyway now that I know what the original video is, I'll give it another try and it will probably work.

Thanks, for your help.

Why does Premiere render unfiltered audio tracks?
 

I have noticed that Premiere will render audio tracks, by command, that do not have any filters added to them. Why is this? I have a theory that it will do this if you make any adjustments to the bands, in other words ANY alterations/adjustments to the native file. Is this the case? I have also noticed that if you choose not to render the tracks, assuming no filters were added, it doesn't make a difference in playback or export. So why would it allow you to render audio if you chose to, if it's not necessary (doesn't show an obvious difference)? We all know that if video is not rendered we get the default image/message not yet rendered. It seems like the rendered preview files are just taking up extra space for no reason if they aren't noticeably changing audio on playback or export.