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Jimmy McKenzie September 30th, 2005 10:34 AM

Easily done in PPro and A/E
 
Export a frame and open in photoshop.
Select the area you want to isolate for the effect.
Alt + backspace to fill black.
Invert the selection.
Fill that area white.
Now you have a matte.
Back to PPro ...
Duplicate the clip in the timeline.
Place the photoshop matte in track 3.
The upper clip (track2) will have track matte applied to it.

Un-eyeball track 3.
Apply whatever effect you want to track 2 and only the revealed space based upon the track matte will have the effect applied.
The above is for locked down scenes. For more complex work with motion mattes, you are best to play in A/E. Lots of patience for that.
YWA!

Hugh DiMauro September 30th, 2005 12:44 PM

Ed:

I haunt the Adobe forum from time to time and I can feel the desperation in the words of the people who post their hardware/software conflict problems. In this particular case, I had the same problem and could not sleep because of it (literally). I awoke at 0300 hours and worked on the problem and searched the Adobe forums and read every post and solution until I found one that worked. So I like to pass it on to anybody who has this issue which is simply solved.

Now that you are here, I seem to be having a problem with the Adobe Audition 1.5 software. When I first started using it, I could rip individual music tracks from CDs for use in Adobe Premiere 1.5. However, now all of a sudden, when I try to rip individual music tracks, the software recognizes my drive but tells me it does not recognize any music with the .cda extension (which is cd music!) So now why, all of a sudden, can I not rip/import tracks from my Sony DVD burner?

By the way, if you click the links on my fist post you cannot get onto the Adobe site unless you are a registered user so here is a cut and paste of my post:

<<You need to remove then re-install Premiere Pro so it recognizes the new drive. The following paragraph cut and pasted from the Adobe site explains why:

<<18. Reinstall Adobe Premiere Pro.

DVD driver entries can be accidentally deleted or become misprioritized in the Windows registry, resulting in errors. Removing and reinstalling Adobe Premiere Pro can replace a deleted DVD driver entry or change the priority of a DVD driver entry in the Windows registry.>>

I did what it said and now my DVD burner works great.>>

Shaughan Flynn September 30th, 2005 01:08 PM

Very cool! Thank you so much!

Mike Wham September 30th, 2005 09:12 PM

Gradual Loss of A/V sync in PPro
 
In Adobe Premiere Pro, I am gradually losing lip-sync even after rendering. If I stop and start again in the same place, the lip-sync is restored, but is lost again in around a minute. Can anyone come up with a solution?
Thanks in advance,
Mike Wham

Edit:
The computer Fujitsu N series Laptop, with a 1.86ghz Pentium M processor,
ATI Mobility Radeon X300, 1.00 gb ddr ram. It runs windows XP service pack 2 home edition.

Harry Lender October 1st, 2005 08:50 AM

What Video Card to use with PPro
 
I was wondering if this card
(ATI All-In-Wonder X800 XT 100-714200 All-In-Wonder Radeon X800XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3)
was good to use with Premiere Pro. I currently have ATL 9600. Works great but I could use a faster one. HAs anyone had experience with this card? From all reports it appears to be a great card. Just wanting to get all your Ideas.

Thanks
Harry

Mark Williams October 1st, 2005 11:23 AM

Harry,

What type problems are you having with the ATI 9600? I have one running with Pro1 in a Dell Optiplex, 2.8 Pentium IV, w/1 GB ram for about 3 months now and everything has been working flawlessly. Rendering times seem to be reasonable. Of course I am not running any other programs in the background so I think this has had a positive effect.

Regards,

Mark

Harry Lender October 1st, 2005 04:05 PM

What Video Card to use with PPro
 
Hi Mark
Actually I'm not having any problems with the 9600. I 've had it for about 1 1/2 years. Like you I have 1 Gig of Ram 1.8 mhz board and render times are ok. Nothing blazing but that's ok. It is a solid card.I also like to Flight Sim alot. It's there that I have alittle problem. Things that are aggravating like changing views it hesitates somewhat. anyway as for PPRO 1.5 it does, I guess, as advertised. Just putting feelers out to see if anyone has had experience with the x800. Thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it.

Harry

Noah Yuan-Vogel October 2nd, 2005 01:46 PM

I do not think you'll get any faster render times with a new video card. I believe encoding DV is mainly a CPU operation. I dont have experience with the X800 but im sure it is a fast card, but only get it if you need more 3D performance. Get it for flight sim not for Premiere. Premiere is 2D, and I do not imagine it to be extremely demanding from your GPU. I, too, have an ATI9600 and even it doesnt seem to make 2d apps run any faster than a budget nvidia fx5200.

Harry Lender October 2nd, 2005 02:47 PM

Hi Noah
I guess I should save my money untill it comes down abit more. $300 is a chunk of change. I can put up with a little stutter with my Fltsim until then. I appreciate your input.
Take Care
Harry

Stephen Finton October 2nd, 2005 07:13 PM

Try a MATROX Parhelia.

Aanarav Sareen October 2nd, 2005 08:29 PM

No need to go back to Photoshop.

1. Duplicate your clip and place it on a track higher
2. Apply the garbage matte filter (4, 8 or 16 point) to the second clip
3. Make sure that the garbage matte includes the sky only.
4. Apply effects to the sky as needed.

- Aanarav Sareen, ACE
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro

Jimmy McKenzie October 2nd, 2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aanarav Sareen
No need to go back to Photoshop.

1. Duplicate your clip and place it on a track higher
2. Apply the garbage matte filter (4, 8 or 16 point) to the second clip
3. Make sure that the garbage matte includes the sky only.
4. Apply effects to the sky as needed.

- Aanarav Sareen, ACE
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro

?
I guess so ... but show me a clip with perfectly polygonic sky that has exactly 4 or 8 selection points that allow the creator to precisely key the sky against say a stand of trees. Or perhaps a few buildings...
Impossible.
Photoshop is the essential tool for this effect.

Aanarav Sareen October 3rd, 2005 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy McKenzie
?
I guess so ... but show me a clip with perfectly polygonic sky that has exactly 4 or 8 selection points that allow the creator to precisely key the sky against say a stand of trees. Or perhaps a few buildings...
Impossible.
Photoshop is the essential tool for this effect.

Unless you want to do it frame by frame, then yes Photoshop is your best method. But, if you want to eye-ball it, use the 16 point garbage matte. Either way, both methods won't be perfect depending on the amount of movement in the video.

Peter Jefferson October 3rd, 2005 06:48 AM

waht your wanting is something claled a "region Filter" which many Canopus would be used to using.
basically it does exactly what u want it to do to either a specific colour, colour range, or selected area.

2 ways u can get this happenin in premiere is to get a Storm2 card, install the plugs and a plugin called "storm effects" and run the canopus driver plugins and hope that they dont fall over...

or u can grab a copy of Edius Pro 3 and run that on ur premiere system and do it in software... u can find cheap s/h edius packages on ebay

Murry Dalton October 4th, 2005 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Douglas
Like i mentioned earlier, I shoot High School and College sports. Unfortunately i can't just break out the digital camera and take pictures of the action. Is there a way I can take a single frame of my video in PP 1.5 and save it as a jpeg picture file that i can edit in Photoshop or Msft PictureIt?


Hi Ryan, I just came across your post 6 months later. I was looking for the same. I just found a software developer that makes a program that will pull single frames from your video. You can download a free trial. the final product will only cost you $30.00. Go to http://www.frame-shots.com

Gareth Watkins October 4th, 2005 12:53 AM

Hi Ryan and Co

I do just as Sheila says, very quick and easy....and from my FX1 I get pretty nice stills for a video camera...

a couple of points...
1) I find it better to de-interlace the shot in Photoshop
Filter> Video > de-interlace...

It sort of snaps the shot sharper by removing the aliasing and interpolating a new field in its place...

2) As it shoots 16.9 I have to stretch the shot out to the right proportions using the image resize...

Hope this helps

Gareth

Ed Smith October 5th, 2005 05:04 AM

Hi Mike,

Lipsync can be associated with disk bandwidth/ general performance.

How much space do you have left on your media drive/ how much is used up? What sort of Harddrive is it? What speed does it run at?

You also need to meet the recommened system spec here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs.html

Just a few things to look into...

Cheers,

Ken E. Williams October 5th, 2005 09:16 AM

FWIW I have similar symptoms regarding the drifting out of A-V sync. I'm my case, it is related to the latency/delay caused by using a M-audio USB Audiophile. When I use the PC's soundcard there is no problem.

Regards,

Ken W.

Petr Lesner October 5th, 2005 10:33 AM

Problem burning DVD from Premiere Standard
 
Question: I have made a movie using Premiere Standard, but when I encode and burn it using MyDVD 4.5, the footage temporary freeze's after each "Black video" clip. It also begins at the first image rather than the begining of the video.
I'm new to this so any advice would be great. I also tried burning it with Honestech with the same result.

Petr.

Christopher Lefchik October 5th, 2005 10:43 AM

In Premiere Pro, go to Project>Project Settings>Video Rendering. Uncheck "Optimize Stills." Then re-export your avi and encode/burn your DVD.

Mike Wham October 5th, 2005 11:11 AM

Thank you for the replies. My computer meets or exceeds the system requirements. It have 1gb DDR ram, 1.8ghz processor, 781mhz front side bus, and 131gb of hard disk space. The hardrive is a 300gb Maxtor one-touch and it is 7200 rpm. It is connected via usb 2.0, which I believe has a speed around 480 mbps. Fortunately, when I export the video to tape, it says "render audio before export?", and I do. From there it works fine. However, it is still a big anoyance because it makes it difficult to tell if the narration and music are in the right places.

Thanks,

Mike

Dan Euritt October 5th, 2005 12:06 PM

don't know if it's relevant, but some people believe that you should always put a black leader onto the beginning of the dvd, at least 3 seconds long? do it within premiere, then have premiere do the encoding to mpeg2... make it all one long clip, you should then be able to import the mpeg2 to your dvd encoding app and assign chapter breaks to it there.

Hugh DiMauro October 5th, 2005 12:45 PM

Need RAID Advice w/ PPro 105
 
Need an honest, down to earth assessment from seasoned PPro 1.5 users concerning Premierer Pro 1.5 and a RAID 0 setup.

Question #1: Is the speed increase with RAID 0 worth the chance of losing everything if a hard drive crashes? I am using five, internal 250 gig hard drives for data only. Should I just use the scratch disk feature in Premiere Pro 1.5 and use a separate hard drive for vidcaps/audcaps vid previews/audpreviews conformed audio?

Question #2: If I decide to use RAID 0, how does that affect the way I set up scratch disks?

Christopher Lefchik October 5th, 2005 01:20 PM

RE Question #1: No, in my opinion. The more hard drives you throw into a RAID 0, the greater the odds of a failure. At one time I had a RAID 0 setup for video editing, and lost files when one of the drives went south (since the data is striped across two or more hard drives, you lose everything when one fails). Since then I've stayed away from RAID 0. DV doesn't need the speed increase. I'm not sure that HDV does, either.

Of course, you should really have a backup solution in place for your video projects, regardless of whether or not you are using RAID 0. I finally implemented one myself (it took me long enough!).

RE Question #2: Your OS will see the RAIDed drives as a single hard drive, so there won't be anything special you will need to do in Premiere Pro.

Hugh DiMauro October 5th, 2005 02:17 PM

Thank you, Christopher, for this response and the one from the Editing on the PC thread.

Petr Lesner October 6th, 2005 07:10 AM

Thanks, I will give it a try.

What is currently the best software for authoring and burning, for a reasonable price? Somethiíng that works well with Premiere?


Cheers Petr

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 09:21 AM

I actually use RAID 0 and non-raid. All SATA of course.

Anyways, my original raw footage is on a 500GB Hitachi SATA II drive. My export scratch disks, and previews on a RAID 0 two 250GB Sata Drives. While my audio conforms on a a Single 80GB 10K Sata Drive.

So in this case, I have never had a problem and if they raid goes south, all is not lost as the original footage is on the non-raid. For me it's a huge difference in rendering because of the RAID 0 vs. Rendering to a non-raid scratch disk.

Pent D 3.2Ghz
2GB DDR2-667
OS Drive: 2x74GB Raptors (Raid 0)
Media: 500GB Hitachi SATA II
Render/Export: 2x250GB (RAID 0)
Audio Drive: 80GB 10K SATA drive (Audition and Premiere Use)

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaughan Flynn
I am curious - In using Premiere, is it possible to select a section of a frame and add an effect just to the selected region (i.e. blown out sky in otherwise well exposed scene)? Or is this only done in After Effects?

TIA!

Shaughan

You would be much happier doing it in AE and Keyframing the mask along the motion..:)

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 09:24 AM

My 3 systems have 3 different types..

Matrox P650 AGP
GeForce 6800 PCI-E
GeForce GTX-7800 PCI-E (It doubles as my gaming system..) :)

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Janisch
Well, the problem I'm experiencing is rather consistent. On short audio clips, say 1-2 minutes, the audio files update after tweaking in Audition (using edit original after render and replace). But when I work on a 20min clip in audition and do the save as, and go back into Premiere, I can see that the file is conforming, but after it is done, the audio clip is still the same. I waited for 5 minutes but still the old unmodified clip. If I save the project and close it and reopen it, the new audio file is present. Any ideas?

Kevin

Save problem I have run into as a recent.. I found that if you have the options to perform a mandatory flush upon savings it would occur with me.. The other workaround, is once its conformed delete it from the timeline and put the Audition created file now over in your project list in it's place.. That has never failed me yet..

Although, after it conforms I have also selected edit original again and then just closed audition after it opened and the new one appeared in the timeline.

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Woodworth
Hi all,

I'm a little stumped on preview render speeds in Premiere Pro 1.5. I'm new to Premiere.

When I use Vegas and apply a Magic Bullet film effect to a video clip, I can resize the preview window to a small size, say 25%, and set the preview quality to draft mode. The resulting preview render occurs in real-time. It's pixelated heavily, but that's ok -- it means I can apply a number of video effects and still play them back in real time to get an idea of what they look like.

However, in Premiere Pro 1.5 I'm having trouble getting the same performance. When I apply a Magic Bullet film effect to a video clip, set the preview monitor to 25% size, and force the preview quality to draft or leave it on auto, it still plays back quite slow and choppy. Eventually it catches up and renders to memory most of the frames and plays back smoother, but in Vegas it plays back smooth and real-time right from the start.

I have noticed that the preview window in Premiere, even when at 25% and draft quality, still is not pixelated like my small draft window in Vegas. As if Premiere just isn't going low-resolution enough to render in real time.

Anyone have any tips?

Thanks!
Adam Woodworth

I have some magic bullet stuff, and well You just have to render it.. When I first got it, I thought this is cool and worth the wait.. However, after several projects I find you don't tend to use them that much because of the render speed.

Avid allows you to do draft as well. However, with Premeire it's not possible or at least I haven't figured it out and am stuck with you have to render the Magic Bullet effects before they are barable to watch..:)

Your other option is use After Effects with MB and then set you render to Draft and that works much better..:)

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajai Thirumalai
Is there a way to capture video clips in chronological order, when they are sprinkled across many tapes? This happens when I want to minize the number of tapes I use, and the scenes(clips) are of varying duration, that I can't afford to lose due to a tape change during a scene.

I use an XL2 and Premiere Pro, use scene detect during capture, and can sort out the clips using the timestamp when they are all in one tape, but not many.

E.g., If my tapes are labelled A, B, C, and my clips in chronological order are 1,2 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 8, 9, and are recorded onto the tapes as

A1269
B347
C58

can I get back to my original sequence of clips 1 through 9, which I can then proceed to edit?

Or do I have to keep track of what I did and unravel the clip sequence manually? I think the XL2 can put on a "time of day/date stamp" but am not sure how to go about this if at all possible.

Any advice is welcome!

ajai

I don't know if I follow you correctly. But you can log in and out points on your tapes and name them whatever you want.. Then pop the tape in and batch capture and sit back while it captures them as individual clips..

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 10:10 AM

Trapcode's is much better than the one in AE anyways, in my opinion.. I use it all the time..

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 10:12 AM

I have noticed after dropping 4 or more audio effects you need to render it for them to sound as you planned. For example, I dropped a reverb as effect 4 and didn't notice the reverb effect until I rendered.. But it could have been a fluke..

Anyways, Audition is what I use for any of that anyways..

Dan Euritt October 6th, 2005 02:03 PM

i use nero for burning the finished dvd... and reeldvd for simple authoring, it's been largely bulletproof and very compatible... it's too old to recommend these days, tho... once you create the mpeg2 and it's associated ac3 audio file, try downloading the 30-day trial of dvd lab pro... spend time reading their forum first, so you'll know what you are getting into.

in this day and age, you should be capable of creating good web video, and you absolutely must be able to create quality dvd's... the latter means that you'll need to understand the basic workflow: 1)edit the video 2)create a dvd-compatible mpeg2 file 3)create a dolby ac3 audio file 4)create a dvd menu 5)import all of the above into a dvd authoring application, where you'll set the chapter breaks to match the menu you created.

for the last couple of years, the trend has been to mish-mash it all into one application, which results in a situation where newbies don't understand what encoding is, what is required to do it right, where it's being done, what app is actually doing it, etc... but you can also get tremendous value for the $$ with some do-it-all packages.

Dan Euritt October 6th, 2005 02:13 PM

are you saying that the scenes are not being shot in chronological order? you are having to shoot scene a, scene b, scene a, scene b, etc., instead of scene a, scene a, scene b, scene b, etc?

even with scene recognition, there is no way for the software to recognize scenes and place them together... it can only break 'em up chronologically as a function of when they were shot, so the date and timecode won't help you there... unless you were indeed swapping tapes as you jumped from scene a to scene b??

ummm... in that case there should be a date and time stamp on each clip that's included with the captured dv avi... i'd guess that you'd need a way for the editing program to list 'em by that data? i'm shooting from the hip here, lol!

James Emory October 6th, 2005 03:19 PM

I originally asked why it renders audio tracks that have NO filters applied. After more thought, I believe it renders unfiltered audio tracks if they are stacked, slightly or mostly overlap, have any band adjustments, etc. even though no filter is applied.

Christopher Lefchik October 6th, 2005 03:25 PM

Premiere Pro doesn't include an AC3 encoder (well, except for the trial version of the Surcode encoder). If he goes with DVD-Lab he would need to use something like BeSweet to encode his audio to AC3, since DVD-Lab does not transcode video and audio to the required DVD formats.

Pat Sherman October 6th, 2005 03:42 PM

Well than that's a good question.. It doesn't on mine.. It only renders if I A. Lock the Track or B. Apply more than 4 effects. Not to be confused with conforming audio of course..

James Emory October 6th, 2005 03:47 PM

I do lock the tracks when I finalize a project. Maybe that is it. I know that when I unlock a locked video track that has already been rendered, it loses the render and I have to re-render it. If you catch it, you can just undo to restore the render without re-rendering.


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