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Ed Smith July 23rd, 2004 04:47 AM

Hi Edmond,

Simply add a letter box matte. This will crop the image top and bottom.

Steps:

Go to file menu> new> Adobe title designer
Click on templates, navigate to the matte folder
Selct Letter box matte
save and exit title designer
Drag matte from project bin to the top most video track which is free. i.e if you have video in track 1, place it in track 2.
You might need to render.

Hay presto you should now be in widescreen...

Cheers,

Edmond Chan July 23rd, 2004 05:13 AM

Thanks Ed Smith,

But can i crop the image from 4:3 to 16:9 and then restructure the crop image to fit back to the 720x480 and put back to the widescreen platform...???

Am i asking too much... or is there any program outside can do the job... since this is only a hobby to me... 1k-2k program i can afford and play with... but if the program cost few thousand - i go back to my 4:3 screen...

Thanks...
Edmond

Greg Harris July 23rd, 2004 02:27 PM

24p in Premier Pro
 
Whats the difference in premier pro 1.5 and premier pro 1? 1.5 has 24p capturing correct. Does it make a difference on the TV? Also, Has anyone captured footy in HD and put it into pro and watched in on a HD TV? If so, how does that look? Thanks
mike

Josh Allen July 23rd, 2004 06:49 PM

I would lean towards Matrox as well.

Justin Boyle July 23rd, 2004 07:04 PM

premiere pro compresion problems
 
i have adobe premiere pro and it is the best program however, i do have one fault to pick. When using the old version 6, if i deinterlaced then compressed to mpeg4 there was practically no loss and it was actually extremely difficult to spot the difference with the two clips. premiere pro renders about twice as quick and while this is great the quality is not and it isn't even worth using it. does anyone have any suggestions.

Justin

Betsy Moore July 24th, 2004 06:08 PM

Adobe Premiere Pro
 
Can you edit with Adobe Premiere Pro by its self or with Adobe plus free add-ons or do you have to use products like the Cineform line (which looks great but has a price that will make me brownbag my lunch til 2007)

Giroud Francois July 24th, 2004 06:32 PM

no, cineform give you real time transition, but is not necessary.
all the HD products have 2 features.
-capturing and converting or not into a workable format.
-editing and saving back to tape.

If you can transfer your video into a format readable by premiere (namely an .avi video with a supported codec) you do not need anything else.

For example, ulead provide an HD plugin for their software that allows capture and translation to a format readable by premiere.
Mainconcept has an HD plugin that capture and edit DV-HD directly into premiere pro.
both are a lot cheaper than cineform.
cineform is a great product, but at this price it is a dead end.

Graham Hickling July 24th, 2004 07:19 PM

I currently edit HDV using Premiere Pro 1.5 with the Mainconcept MpegPro plugin. With a Pentium4 HT2.8GHz I can capture and export directly between the camera and the Premiere timeline, which is convenient.

Editing certainly works, but is a bit "clunky" due to the decoding effort the CPU is putting in - for example, I can't smoothly scrub the timeline. Smoother workflow is what may convince me to get Aspect HD, eventually.

But meanwhile, there's another solution, that I am fairly happy with at present: 1) Capture your HDV clips using whatever software you find convenient ; 2) Make a proxy copy of each clip to a CPU-friendly avi codec (I use TMPGExpress to batch process them all to Picvideo mjpeg); 3) do all your editing using the proxy files; 4) Just before your final render, swop back in the original HDV to replace the proxies (this takes all of about 10sec to do - it's EASY! - see the PPro helpfile for details); 5) go have a cup of coffee (or two) while it renders out.

Betsy Moore July 24th, 2004 09:19 PM

great advice G & G:) Thanks.

Glenn Chan July 24th, 2004 10:28 PM

1- Premiere 6.x could export to MPEG4?!

2- What settings are you using in Premiere Pro?

codec, bitrate, frame rate, size, interlacing, etc.

3- What are you trying to do? There probably is a better codec for what you're trying to do.

Kin Kwan July 24th, 2004 11:08 PM

Huffyuv and Premiere Pro 1.5 problem
 
For some odd reason, I can't seem to export to Huffyuv from Premiere Pro 1.5.

Does anyone have the same problem, or better yet, a solution to this problem?

Justin Boyle July 25th, 2004 06:46 AM

thanks for ur reply glen. premiere 6 dfinately could export to mpeg4 i have done it. i had three codecs to use and there was also divx to choose from which is the same as mpeg4 and these were perfect codecs in terms of quality and it was hard to find any differences. In premiere pro i have also tried the quicktime format and chose to compress mpeg4 through there and the render times doubled but the quality was equally as good as what i did with premiere 6. If you can suggest any free codecs that are better than mpeg4 then that would be appreciated but fact is i have seen mpeg4 do some great stuff with pleasing results so premiere pro should be able to do that also.

Thanks again
Justin

Glenn Chan July 25th, 2004 02:04 PM

As a workaround you can export using the animation codec. It's also lossless, and I believe it allows an alpha channel.

Don't have PPro in front of me to see if it can export huffyuv.

Glenn Chan July 25th, 2004 02:27 PM

1- What are you trying to do?
What kind of footage
What the target destination/audience is
How big should the encoded version be
Length
etc....

If you're just looking for the best quality compression (compatibility and editability be damned), then your best choices would be:

lossless:
huffyuv, animation are free.
There are some commercial codecs out there like microcosm that provide slightly better lossless compression. Windows Media I believe also does lossless, although I haven't tried.

Lossy:
Windows Media 9 (download Windows Media Encoder for free) *Reasonably easy to use, and FREE.
VP6 - http://www.on2.com/vp6.php3
???Xvid (don't know if it's very good)
Real Player

divX I tried and doesn't look very good at low bitrates compared to Windows Media.

MPEG4 generally isn't as good as the options above. The MPEG4 format is limited to a certain set of compression tricks so that not-so-powerful devices can decode MPEG4 streams.

If you can't easily tell the difference between frames, then in practical terms all codecs are the same.

Peter Robert July 25th, 2004 08:15 PM

Hi Graham,

I am very eager to learn your method that convert m2t to mjpeg. But I don't know much about computer. Can you give an example of how to make a proxy file and then how to swop back the original to replace the proxy file?

Thanks a lot.


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