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John Snyder · February 2nd, 2011, 01:00 PM

Has anyone used a Sound Devices 702 WITHOUT a mixer (I just need two mics) and does the mixer improve the quality of the SD702. I heard that the preamps on both are about the same.

The flexibility of a mixer would be great but I am mostly concerned with overall quality right now.

Also, any recommendation for a wired mic for this recorder. I have an EV 50 but it is not hot enough.

Thanks

Greg Penetrante · February 2nd, 2011, 01:23 PM

The SD702 is a great unit. I use it without a mixer if I record 2 channels. It's preamps are excellent and you will have no problems with dynamic mics.

Mixers like the 302 add the ability to input more channels and also add versatility in terms of signal routing.

Best,
Greg

Rick Reineke · February 2nd, 2011, 01:33 PM

Having a SD mixer as the front-end would be of little advantage unless.. you need to combine multiple mics to a single track. or you just like to carry and/or collect more gear.

"The EV 50 is not hot enough"
For what?
The RE50 "N/DYM" has a slightly hotter output... if a H/H Omni is the type of mic you need?

Jim Andrada · February 2nd, 2011, 09:23 PM

I use my 702 with and without the 302 in front of it - even though I might be using just two mics the scale on the 302 is a lot easier to see and I've just gotten used to it!

Andrew Dean · February 4th, 2011, 04:26 PM

The SD mixers have better limiters, i believe. The dual stage magical stuff where it cannot clip. The limiter on the 702 i thought was "harder". Never tested it though.

Anthony Ching · February 5th, 2011, 12:43 AM

The quality of the mic pre on the SD 7XX recorders are better than SD mixers. Although SD mixers got excellent mic pre already.

Ed Burnett · February 9th, 2011, 04:26 PM

I have used the 702T without a mixer, while helping out some students with their projects at VFS.

It works fine without it, but the 302 will give you a much wider range of gain/level control, and of course better level meters.

Earlier today I posted some thoughts and comparisons on the 702 recorder here: Phoric Films – Choosing a Field Recorder – Zoom H4n or Sound Devices 702?

Brian McKenna · February 9th, 2011, 04:38 PM

perfectly fine without a mixer + you can setup and toggle between different monitoring scenarios.
i swapped out one of 2 condenser mics for a dynamic mic recently and it really sounded much better than i expected.

Sophie Bucks · February 9th, 2011, 05:56 PM

We use a 744 and its the bomb. It has 2 mic in same as 702 plus 2 line in. The pre amps are so clean but someone was right about the limiter. If you are using RMS 2040 or a Sen 416 staright in its hard to imagine you can find anything that sounds better.

February 2nd, 2011, 01:00 PM	#1
John Snyder New Boot Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South Thomaston, Maine Posts: 19	Sound Devices 702 Has anyone used a Sound Devices 702 WITHOUT a mixer (I just need two mics) and does the mixer improve the quality of the SD702. I heard that the preamps on both are about the same. The flexibility of a mixer would be great but I am mostly concerned with overall quality right now. Also, any recommendation for a wired mic for this recorder. I have an EV 50 but it is not hot enough. Thanks

February 5th, 2011, 12:43 AM	#6
Anthony Ching Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Taipei Posts: 63	The quality of the mic pre on the SD 7XX recorders are better than SD mixers. Although SD mixers got excellent mic pre already. __________________ Got 3 'S': Schoeps, Sound Devices, and Sony.

February 9th, 2011, 05:56 PM	#9
Sophie Bucks Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 44	We use a 744 and its the bomb. It has 2 mic in same as 702 plus 2 line in. The pre amps are so clean but someone was right about the limiter. If you are using RMS 2040 or a Sen 416 staright in its hard to imagine you can find anything that sounds better. __________________ Wedding videographer filming modern Wedding video London

February 2nd, 2011, 01:23 PM	#2
Greg Penetrante Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 70	The SD702 is a great unit. I use it without a mixer if I record 2 channels. It's preamps are excellent and you will have no problems with dynamic mics. Mixers like the 302 add the ability to input more channels and also add versatility in terms of signal routing. Best, Greg

February 2nd, 2011, 01:33 PM	#3
Rick Reineke Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 2,038	Having a SD mixer as the front-end would be of little advantage unless.. you need to combine multiple mics to a single track. or you just like to carry and/or collect more gear. "The EV 50 is not hot enough" For what? The RE50 "N/DYM" has a slightly hotter output... if a H/H Omni is the type of mic you need?

February 2nd, 2011, 09:23 PM	#4
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	I use my 702 with and without the 302 in front of it - even though I might be using just two mics the scale on the 302 is a lot easier to see and I've just gotten used to it!

February 4th, 2011, 04:26 PM	#5
Andrew Dean Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Motukarara, New Zealand Posts: 475	The SD mixers have better limiters, i believe. The dual stage magical stuff where it cannot clip. The limiter on the 702 i thought was "harder". Never tested it though.

February 9th, 2011, 04:26 PM	#7
Ed Burnett New Boot Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 18	I have used the 702T without a mixer, while helping out some students with their projects at VFS. It works fine without it, but the 302 will give you a much wider range of gain/level control, and of course better level meters. Earlier today I posted some thoughts and comparisons on the 702 recorder here: Phoric Films – Choosing a Field Recorder – Zoom H4n or Sound Devices 702?

February 9th, 2011, 04:38 PM	#8
Brian McKenna Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: canada Posts: 57	perfectly fine without a mixer + you can setup and toggle between different monitoring scenarios. i swapped out one of 2 condenser mics for a dynamic mic recently and it really sounded much better than i expected.