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Old May 2nd, 2020, 03:56 PM   #1
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ORTF symphony recording

Hello everyone. I've been recording a large symphony for the last couple of years. Early on I choose the ORTF method for recording. 2 Rode NT1's into a Zoom F8n for the last performance. I never would have believed that the recordings are as good as they are. Mics are about 5 feet behind and 4 feet above the conductor.
I finally got permission to release a recording from a live performance. It is Dvorak's From the New World, M II, Largo. Allan R. Scott conducting the Helena Symphony Orchestra . Video and photography are from my archives. Sadly most have watched the video on cell phones. If you really want to listen might I humbly suggest headphones/speakers and a bigger screen!
Hope you enjoy.
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vimeo.com/410136994/b5a7463040

Its a private video so you'll have to copy and paste the link. Sorry.

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Old May 3rd, 2020, 01:43 PM   #2
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Re: ORTF symphony recording

That's quite nice to listen to, but it's also the reason why I never like the ORTF technique, as it sounds really nice on my studio monitors, but I first listened on my in ears on my laptop and on these, the classic hole in the middle is quite obvious. You can't detect it on speakers, and it gives that slightly exaggerated width.

The sound is quite full and for once, the audience managed to keep quiet!

A nice recording!
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Old May 4th, 2020, 09:25 AM   #3
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Thank you Paul, a very nice review. I use headphones for recording of course but I mix and master only on my speakers. Your point about the hole in the middle is right on. On occasion we will have a soloist that I record with separate mic and channel. I generally put them near the middle of the stereo field. Gives me a really nice sound. j
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Old May 4th, 2020, 12:40 PM   #4
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I've stuck to X/Y with 90 degrees for this reason. It's a nice recording though - the definition is there, and lots of detail.
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Old May 4th, 2020, 11:39 PM   #5
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Hi John,

I've copypasted that exact link and Vimeo tells me there is nothing there. Has anything changed?

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Old May 5th, 2020, 09:59 AM   #6
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vimeo.com/410136994/b5a7463040

Hi Andrew. Nothing has changed as far as I can tell. I just re-copied the link info direct from Vimeo. Hope that works. j
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Old May 5th, 2020, 10:58 AM   #7
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No dice. Might be geographical restrictions also applying. (I'm in Australia.)

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Old May 5th, 2020, 10:04 PM   #8
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Bummer. I'm concerned others might be having the same issue.

Maybe this will work.

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Old May 6th, 2020, 03:07 AM   #9
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https:// then vimeo.com/410136994/b5a7463040

I copied and pasted this to the https:// and it worked so it needs this at the front.
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Old May 6th, 2020, 03:33 AM   #10
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I guess I'm just going to have to miss out, and I've tested it on more than one browser.

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Old May 6th, 2020, 03:36 AM   #11
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Just spotted that Donald updated his post re using an https connection. Neither http: or https: mode in the URL makes any difference for me, and non-secure HTTP is automatically redirected to a secure connection by Vimeo.

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Old May 6th, 2020, 05:12 AM   #12
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Andrew, at the top of web page you will see the web address starting with https:// now copy vimeo.com/410136994/b5a7463040 high lite everything after https:// then paste & go

this worked for me.
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Old May 6th, 2020, 05:36 AM   #13
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Indeed that's what I did, to no success. Both http and https versions of the address do not work for me.

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Old May 6th, 2020, 07:03 AM   #14
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This link works for me, but it won't work when just pasted into a forum post. Some of the links above seem to have invisible charcters in them, preventing them from working. Try copying/pasting this into your browser address bar

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Old May 6th, 2020, 07:40 AM   #15
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And it's a nope from me. Even if I type it in manually to avoid weird character set (unicode fun) issues.

Oh well.

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