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Kyle Kauss June 8th, 2004, 08:07 AM Me and my friends got bored on Friday (because one of the dumbass' didn't call the girls back and by the time he did they were hanging out with other guys)
So we decided to film a music video (I just wanted to see if I could do it it turned out okay I think let me know what you guys think (I'm playing the drums by the way) oh the song is what's my age again the timeless blink 182 classic.
9 megs right click and hit save target as
http://24.26.176.24/12%20gauge%20-%20what's%20my%20age%20again%20(cover).wmv
Rob Lohman June 8th, 2004, 08:34 AM Pretty funny for the time and resources you guys had. Nice one!
Fernando Maldonado June 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM this past week i went on a trip with about 700 high school students.. shot everyday with canon xl1-s and pd-150. After shooting for a while i would edit all what i shot into about 3+ min video to show at the night service to all the kids and counslers.
So the videos where rushed just like to know what you all thought. -fernando
Video 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/8659/wmv/secondbapt.download.akamai.com/8659/Video/Ministries/1BeachRet2004.wmv
Video 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/8659/wmv/secondbapt.download.akamai.com/8659/Video/Ministries/2BeachRet2004.wmv
those are for the west campus thanks guys
Oscar Vidales June 9th, 2004, 02:17 AM What kinf of camera did you use to film that?
Kyle Kauss June 9th, 2004, 07:27 AM Camera: Sony DCR-TRV80
Edited with: Premiere pro and after effects
Michael Le June 9th, 2004, 09:31 AM Seems like a fun little project. Looks like you shot from two angles. Did you just film yourself singing the song twice? How much footage did you take to edit down to that much?
Kyle Kauss June 9th, 2004, 11:30 AM There were only four of us there that night so we played through the song 3 times and then we just did a bunch of fill in stuff there was a lot more then just two angles. We took about 35 minutes of footage if I remember right but a lot of it was trying to do stuff and messing up so.
George Ellis June 10th, 2004, 08:30 PM This is not the best stuff. Still trying to learn both the camera, tripod and the mic. But, if you like loud brass and percussion, this may be your 'fix'. I have the first three movements of the Spirit from JSU's music up and their rendition of Georgia (how topical - going to miss him). Shot with a VX2100 and a Sony TRV520. Color is a little mismatched and I gave up on correcting it :)
www.versatilemediasolutions.com/spirit.htm
Edit - back online - made an update and lost the page. Fixed now.
Edit part II - just found out that two links point to a third. Will fix tonight. The 2nd movement is:
http://www.versatilemediasolutions.com/Files/2ndmovement.wmv
The 3rd is:
http://www.versatilemediasolutions.com/Files/3rdmovement.wmv
Jeffery Patch June 11th, 2004, 02:18 AM updated link: http://www.jeffpatch.com/?postid=49
This will take you directly to the entry with the video rather than having to search through my blog, which of course, you are free to do!
George Ellis June 11th, 2004, 11:29 AM Will fix two crossed up links - see edit notes above
Evan Kubota June 11th, 2004, 08:59 PM You mind putting it up in some other format? I hate WMV.
Ian Paterson June 14th, 2004, 10:54 AM Hi
Fan film of the excellent movie ( not the crappy sequal )
There is 2 versions of this, a normal version and a 3D glasses needed version, but the web version is normal.
http://www.superteam.biz/smoothnecks.htm
I'm also the maker of the "Call it a Stargate" series.
Hope you enjoy.
Magnus Helander June 15th, 2004, 11:52 AM We have put together a 90s showcase/portfolio with an acid sountrack to it. Titles are swedish, spoken words are in english...
Encoded with WM9 MPEG4 at 340kbps.
http://www.modernafilmer.se/vegas/assembly2_300k.wmv
"Rörliga bilder med resultat" in swedish means something like "Moving images with the intended effect". We use DVX100, vegas, acid and titles from Heroglyph. Animations imported from IronCAD and rendered in Cinema4D.
/magnus
Kyle Kauss June 16th, 2004, 01:55 PM Hey Ian I already saw this over at the superteam forums (I post as Wilykily)
anyway it was a pretty decent movie if I remember correctly
Kyle Kauss June 16th, 2004, 01:56 PM Ummm sorry dude the guy that hosts my stuff I don't see very often so I'm not sure when I could get a different version up anytime soon sorry.
Sean Caldwell June 17th, 2004, 04:39 AM Here's a spot for the Tampa Bay Lightning. It was broadcast on Sunshine Network (Fox Sports Net). I was the voiceover talent used.
The broadcast video had loads of film effects and other goodies that probably don't translate well at 200 pixels 15 fps, but you get the idea.
http://audio.seancaldwell.com/video/lightning1.wmv
Peter John Ross June 18th, 2004, 09:24 AM THE MANHATTAN PROJECT
3 minute clip - 2.8 meg
http://www.sonnyboo.com/video/MANHAT04.wmv
This grotesque look at what happens in the men's room at an office (any office) makes audiences cringe with delight.
People fear the unknown. People are afraid of what might happen ifBill the Office Worker comes into the men's room whilst you are in there.
Features The 'Fat' Kevin Costner (aka Paul Valentine)
"Don't go to the movies, go back online" - Our new motto
http://wWw.sOnNybOo.cOm
Tony Webber June 20th, 2004, 06:59 AM Hello,
I have recently completed a short film and have uploaded a medium sized (20mb) version to my website.
I'm not sure if its good enough to enter into festivals so any feedback is appreciated,
Follow the link below.
http://www.rockfallfilms.co.uk/italian/video/8-30_med.mov
Thanks
Tony Webber
p.s i dont know how to make the link active.
Jim Quinlan June 20th, 2004, 07:40 AM Hi Tony,
To make the link active, surround it with "" at the beginning of the link and then"" at the end of the link.
I thought it was a good film and I would enter it in festivals if I were you. The only problem I had (and it may have been because of the web version) was the audio was a little hard to understand in a few places. I noticed that when you switched from one scene to another occasionally you could tell you were using a different audio source (one better than the other). You might be able to clean some of that up with a noise reduction tool.
Good story that kept my attention.
Tony Webber June 20th, 2004, 07:45 AM http://www.rockfallfilms.co.uk/italian/video/8-30_med.mov
Thanks for your coments, i had trouble enccoding the film without the sound going funny., i wanted it to be a downloadable size.
The sound is ok on the original. I am going to make a larger version for people with broadband, just got to sort out the hosting for it.
cheers
Tony
Ned Hamilton June 21st, 2004, 04:05 AM Nice piece. Good production values, good editing, good acting. Yes, you should enter it.
Kyle Kauss June 22nd, 2004, 02:35 PM New Link the other one won't work
http://24.26.179.122/12%20gauge%20-%20what's%20my%20age%20again%20(cover).wmv
Tony Webber June 22nd, 2004, 04:29 PM hello,
I have now uploaded a broadband version of my film. (40mb) there are 3 mirrors and also a 20mb version aswell.
http://www.rockfallfilms.co.uk/italian/media.shtml
It was shot on an XM2 in frame mode. Any feedback is appreciated.
regards
Tony Webber
Charles Papert June 22nd, 2004, 07:50 PM Tony,
I think you did a nice job. I liked the performances and it's a fun variation on the "first date" theme.
I feel there are some pacing issues. I think you could apply quite a few nip and tucks to tighten the action and still get the point across, and still keep the feel. I believe you could cut at least a quarter, perhaps even a third of the runing time out of the film and it would play very well.
The title sequence is indeed a bit long for a short film, and seems to function more as a travelogue for Salisbury than anything else (it is pretty!)
Some individual notes that can be easily addressed:
Color correction--Todd's office seems purposely on the green side, which works for the environment. But the first time we see Jody, the scene is overally magenta (made all the more apparent by cross-cutting to Todd's greenish world). By the next scene with her in the bedroom, the color is much more flattering.
Jump cuts on Todd--I will say that this device is a bit overused in short films that I have seen, and rarely do I see it used in a deliberate way that makes sense (as opposed to an editing choice after the fact to save the scene). It just doesn't jibe with the style of the rest of the film, to me. Also, the audio is "popping" on the cut which doesn't help. Try a very short (2 or 3 frame) crossfade at the edits.
Some "too lates, maybe next time" notes:
Overall, I feel like more movement could have livened things up a bit during the endless phone conversations. The dolly shots, when used, seem to always introduce a scene but would have been better put to use during some of the long chatting bits. It's an interesting challenge to have two actors who are mostly on the phone during a short film, but the way to keep things moving is by creating as much variety as possible (overhead shots, profiles, long shots, i.e. different interesting angles, as well as dolly moves here and there). Fortunately the performances are engaging enough to carry much of this through. I'm not suggesting hyper-kinetic filmmaking here, just that it some more movement might give the viewer some more to do.
The one shot from the evening of Todd on the phone in which he is seen in left-facing profile is unfortunately against a black wall with no lighting separation so that his hair blends into the wall. Other than that, I think your DP did a nice, natural job with the lighting.
So my advice would be (if you were to be going back into this film) would be to start chopping out the holes, tightening wherever you can. In a short film, every frame counts. Take Jody dialing Todd back after he leaves a message for instance. We see her start to dial, then an endless closeup of the actual dialing, then her waiting for the connection...it's what we call "shoe leather", the everyday business of stuff that can just be implied rather than shown, in order to keep up the pace. What if we see her reach for the phone, then cut back to Todd as his phone rings and play the beginning of the conversation on him while you hear her say "Hi Todd" etc. Thus you get to register his reaction to her calling back so quickly, which might be a nice choice anyway, and you've cut out maybe 10 seconds of shoe leather.
Outside of all this (hope you don't mind the suggestions), it looks good and you elicited some nice performances (Todd is funny!), so keep it up.
Tony Webber June 23rd, 2004, 11:12 AM Charles,
Thanks very much for taking the time to watch it through and give me your comments. Being so close to the project as i am, its hard to see the bad points which are evident from reading your comments.
I did try and colour correct the scene you mention but unfortunately because the scene didnt really contain much colour anyway, it was hard to get it to look much better, (the original shots were even whiter) The bedroom scene seemed to have a lot more colour to it and that definately showed on the screen.
The jump cuts were used to get us out of a sticky situation. Basically the sound on the other shots was unuseable and it meant that we had to use one shot for that piece of dialogue, so we decided to jump cut it a bit rather than just playing it right through.
As for tightening it up, i did cut out 2 scenes from the script prior to shooting and then dropped a further scene from the edit. I dont think the writer would be too happy if i was to cut any more out. All in all it was my first film since graduating and i realise that i have a lot to learn. I have learnt a great deal from making this film, much more than i learnt in my 3 years at university. I can apply what i have learnt on this project to the next one and so on.
I am unable to go back to the edit because all the project and capture files are no longer on the hard drive. so it would mean starting from scratch to really sort the edit out. To be honest i have been involved in this film for quite a while and just want to put it behind me now and move onto a fresh project.
Thanks again for your comments.
Tony
Miguel Lombana June 23rd, 2004, 05:01 PM I have a quick question, I have a few clips that I'd like to share and wanted to know if anyone had a place that will allow you to post video for free. I know of several servers that will be more than happy to host your video for a small un-necessary fee, but I was hoping to find something really really really cheap... anyone have a suggestion.
Michael Le June 23rd, 2004, 10:11 PM I don't think any of the cuts Charles recommended would be major enough to affect the story and thus the writer. I think he means the lingering type of shots that don't add to the story. By cutting it you're pacing it a little better. The phone dialing was also very noticeable to me as well as the intro sequence. Cutting a little bit of both of those would not affect the story in anyway.
Charles Papert June 24th, 2004, 12:46 AM Agreed.
The relationship between writer and director is a complicated thing. But at the end of the day, the bottom line is the film itself. Is it more important to please the writer or please the audience? If the audience enjoys it more as the result of cutting down the material, wouldn't that be a lesson learned for the writer?
I think that a certain amount of this comes down to personal taste, but a very significant factor is that pacing has sped up in recent years. With a few notable exceptions, everything plays faster than it did in many of my favorite films and TV shows even 10 years ago. I'm not talking about obvious fast cutting and frenetic camera work, actually the overall rhythm and pacing of much of what we see and thus our expectations.
Taking time, lingering on a shot or a scene now has to be done for a reason. It's become a powerful choice, not a casual one. With a lighthearted script like this, it doesn't seem to lend itself to langorous pacing (they are both pretty active people, it's just that Todd is physically stuck at his desk).
This is, of course, just my opinion. As one of the producers of the Instant Films (www.instantfilms.tv) festivals, I screen a LOT of short film submissions, and pacing is a common issue. I also worked on the series "Scrubs" for a couple of years, and I learned a tremendous amount about pacing from that experience.
Cheers!
Rob Lohman June 24th, 2004, 02:31 AM I thought it was nicely done overall. I agree as well that pacing
may be improved upon a bit. The jump-cutting was not something
I liked either, but the thing I disliked the most was the intro
music. Otherwise a nice little short with an interesting story!
Walter McElroy, Jr. June 24th, 2004, 03:34 PM This is the first short I made. Check it out and let me know what you think.
http://www.steakmotionpictures.com/PSteak%20Web1a%2013k.wmv
Tony Webber June 24th, 2004, 04:55 PM Thanks very much everyone for your feedback. Its great to get other peoples views and opinions on a project.
Theres a lot i would do differently on this project if i could turn back time, but thats life.
Here's to bettering myself on the next film
regards
Tony
Alex Melnikov June 24th, 2004, 06:22 PM A an auto show teaser/highlights video. Total there are 45 hours of footage that still has to be reviewed and logged and then cut for a real 1 hour film, but this is just some of the cruise and a few key moments from the show.
3:44 mins long and about 19 MBs in size.
http://www.alasm.com/Dubwars_small.wmv
Cheers,
Alex
Robin Davies-Rollinson June 25th, 2004, 01:43 AM Just viewed Pepper Steak in work and really enjoyed it!
You've got a good sense of pace in your editing and obviously know how to construct sequences. I can forgive some of the not-quite-well framed shots because of the overall sheer verve of the production.
Great!
Regards,
Robin.
Graham Bernard June 25th, 2004, 01:59 AM "This is the first short I made. " . .yeah right ! . . and I'm the Tooth Fairy!
Walter - for a first attempt, that was simply amazing . . Your design and pace and use of FXs was fabulous .. you show all the makings of a great filmaker . . .
I do have crits .. . silly little things ..
There was one illogical "jump" in the timeline - you want I should pick it out?. . Why did you have the "blood", at the end, drip Upwards and not Downwards? .. Of course another way of looking at things .. maybe you meant it .. if so my apologies .. . don't wanna have the Pool Cue remedy ! HAH!
Walter .. MORE please!
Grazie
Robert Kirkpatrick June 25th, 2004, 08:15 AM Hi. I have a short film being hosted on Rewind Video that I would like some feedback on. I know there are problems with it, but I don't want to preface the film with them. I'm not really looking for pat-on-the-backs, but constructive criticism or comments that I can take with me to use on my next short. There just isn't much of a film community where I am, and I could really use as much feedback as I can get.
The film is called "Therapy", and it's on the main page of www.rewindvideo.com. (Sorry, I can't give a direct link.) You may have to scroll down a bit. It was shot on a Canon ZR20 with a wide angle lens. (I hope to upgrade my camera soon.) The cheapo mic I used died halfway through production. It was edited and color corrected on Vegas Video 4 and there were some additional effects done in After Effects.
Thanks.
Rob Lohman June 25th, 2004, 09:01 AM Direct link... (http://media.rewindvideo.com/video/crowfeather/Therapy.mov)
I thought it was an interesting and really good made movie. Good
editing and a good way to tell the story. There are a couple of
things I didn't like too much:
- The use of her name after a lot of setences: "No need to raise your voice... Max". We already know her name.
- Microphone (?) hum. Not annyoing on itself. But definitely when it switches on and off. That took me away from the short a bit
- Opening sentence of the doctor
But other than that I thought it was nicely done with some good
acting. The doctor got a lot better during the movie. Julia was
nice!
I'm not sure how well I like the "twist". I thought the setup was
pretty neat and was interested to see where it went. I was
expecting a bit more in terms of what is going on.
But that shows the setup was pretty well done!
All in all an enjoyable short. Nice!
Roger Moore June 26th, 2004, 05:16 AM I just watched it. I liked it.
I'm trying to do my own projects at the moment so my comments may be tinged by that preoccupation. Please remember that when you read something that sounds like I'm selfishly projecting my own ideas rather than offering helpful comments.
Sound problems? Don't worry, nobody cares whether you make a silent film or you blow out their ear drums - the important thing is to blow their minds!
The demon morph was fine but all the time and effort that was put into it would have been better spent trying other things like experimenting with other versions, rmaking edits that radically depart from the original script, not just making minor tweaks for continuity.
Random comments:
Dump the magazine guy in the waiting room...he needs to be more than just some idle fellow casting a raised eyebrow at her, or else cut him out and put a mirror there instead and have some kind of strange time-out-of joint interplay between her and her reflection.
Maybe make it a see-thru mirror and she sees herself talking to the doctor inside.
The eye and door knob go round and round...one begins it all the other ends it, but does camera movement signify a relationship between eye and door knob? Why not make an overhead shot of the office and spin the room with her sitting in the centre so that the doctor orbits her during the session. Same with the waiting room. Maybe have the camera and Max on a merry-go-round platform so that the spinning is shown from the panoramic angle as well as overhead. Round and round she goes, where it stops nobody knows, not even Max. Maybe she escapes the loop by running out into the street and jumps infront of a car.
Maybe she says: "Max out" and then dies.
From ripples in time-space continuum to post-mortem musings about heaven and hell...to shifting identities. When am I? Where am I? Why am I here (ie what did i do to deserve hell/heaven)? Who am I? The form of the film should be shifting constantly, or rather when Max sits the room spins, but when Max leaves the room, it follows her out the door. Was that what you were getting at with the spinning eye and door knob, that both figure and ground share this time/shape-shifting nature?
Doctor (maybe pulled apart a la double vision): Am I in the past or am I in the future?
Max: I don't know, both?
Doctor #1: Is that a memory -
Doctor #2: or is that a prediction?
Maybe have a scene where Max #1 from the waiting room
and Max #2 from the doctor's office reach for the door knob at the same time and...
But you know that this piece you've put on the web isn't the finished product, I hope. Think of it as an etude or a sonata. Scarlatti wrote hundreds of sonatas for the keyboard and most of them were crap - and he knew it, but he had the wisdom to know that if hadn't struggled with them, and tortured his audiences in the process, he wouldn't have learned anything about music composition, and he wouldn't have sown the seeds for the masterpieces that he would later create.
Walter McElroy, Jr. June 26th, 2004, 10:59 AM Thank you for your post, I appreciate all comments and Im looking forward to bringing more video productions to the web soon. Thanks again!
Matthew de Jongh June 26th, 2004, 06:54 PM in the midst of doing a semi-serious documentary of the circus performers i knocked out a quick short over two days of filming.
its a little weird, it was totally unscripted and i basically gave a lot of famous circus performers who were being interviewed for the real documentary a simple premise and told them to ad-lib the rest. it took a weird direction.
please give me some honest feedback on the general short, the viability of it's interest to the general public at film festivals etc.
www.cluelessandlark.org
matthew
Peter John Ross June 27th, 2004, 09:15 AM http://www.scottspears.net/Gels%20&%20diffusion.wmv
from Emmy Winning Director of Photography SCOTT SPEARS and his site www.scottspears.net comes another 2 minute free video to teach the basic fo cinematography.
Produced with http://www.sonnyboo.com
Aaron Rosen June 27th, 2004, 09:34 PM Not bad.
Did you get any shots from the jetty?
Next time that would be cool to get a downward angle on things.
Aaron Rosen June 27th, 2004, 09:40 PM Hi Ya'll
Been off shooting so Ive been gone a bit.
Anyone care to comment on some of the footage I took of our local Fire Acadmey?
These scenes were taken from the 10 min. grad. video I can post more if you like.
www.pixel-mesh.com/131st/video.html
- AR
Robert Kirkpatrick June 29th, 2004, 09:52 AM Hey, Roger & Rob. Thanks very much for the comments. I do appreciate it. It's an eclectic piece, and I really can't get the feedback in my neck of the woods to find out what works or doesn't. Every time I watch it, I only see the technical stuff, and I'm not sure if I'm doing as well getting the story across.
I just learned that using a cheap mic on a 1-chip may not be the best solution. That sometimes the onboard is better, since the external mic pics up a lot of hum. I'm looking to try to jury-rig a poor man's dat with a minidisc and investing in a really good mic.
Thanks again.
Shane Duff June 30th, 2004, 09:57 PM Episode 2 is up!
Craig Olmstead July 1st, 2004, 10:26 AM Hi guys, I'm new to this posting thing. My production company recently produced a 30sec commercial for the Kentucky Lottery. Our instructions per the lotteries request was to center the production around an urban theme.
So please take a look at our production and give me your thoughts.
www.dubproductions.com/movies/commercialdemo_01.mov
Rob Lohman July 1st, 2004, 11:35 AM I made your link clickable and added 'V' at the end (was missing).
I thought it was okay but like most commercials didn't want me
to do anything or something. Then again, commercials never
really worked for me. I didn't like the sound of the guy's voice
too much though.
Matthew de Jongh July 1st, 2004, 12:52 PM i've got to say i'm kind of disappointed...i haven't gotten a single feedback message to my posting about my first short.
matthew
Dylan Couper July 1st, 2004, 06:39 PM Hey Craig
Yeah, it was good enough. I buy the urban theme, and it's cut and shot well enough.
However....
It just doesn't sell me on needing to play the lottery.
David Chao July 2nd, 2004, 10:33 AM I'll add a comment for ya... some constructive criticism. Don't take this personally.
First of all, who the heck is "Ernie?" This question is probably at the root of why there seems to be a lack of interest. Watching 12 or 13 people talk about some clown I don't even know wasn't very interesting (sorry). Others may know who he is but I don't.
Secondly, when I started to watch your not-so-short short, my first thought was that it's slow. If you're going to talk about someone that your audience may not know, you might want to pick up the pace a little. Actually, try to pick it up A LOT. The narrative style is fine but you definitely could have used more camera movement to give the audience the feeling of being "there." Especially for a documentary-esque piece like this. But if you're gonna keep the camera on a tripod, consider more angles and cuts to keep the viewer's interest. I counted 23 cuts (not including the slideshow) in this 00:19:29 minute short, give or take a few cuts. I'm a one man show too (my tripod is my best grip), but don't let the audience know that :).
Lastly, if you've got old footage of "Ernie," throw some in there and show us who he is while these people are talking about him. If you DON'T have any, create re-enactments from the stories these guys are telling about him and cut them in with the interviews.
I'm no pro but this is just my take. From one amateur to another... keep at it!
David
PS. My tripod piece can be seen at: http://www.studiotigers.com/damn/
Craig Olmstead July 2nd, 2004, 11:05 AM What ideas do you have...or what suggestions could you give that could have made this better. Maybe better script for the jingle? Open to ideas...
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