I haven't had any of those problems, so you may have a unique problem. I would recommend calling JVC tech support ASAP!

But that doesn't mean someone else may not have similar problems like this. Anyone else out there experiencing this situation?

heath

Has anyone noticed that the component outs from these cameras is a little on the dark side?

I've turned my LCD down on the camera itself because I don't think it really representative of the component picture to my HD set.

Anyone else?

Troy

Saw this via Bob Turner's The Cut:

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/4468

What do y'all think?

Is it the same as this camera:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21325

But David Newman said it's probably not an HD camera...

heath

I haven't noticed anything, but I'll double check.

heath

I said it was not HDV camera. It is HD POV camera.

Right, sorry. I did, however, make sure I didn't say it was HDV.

The question is, what is an HD POV camera, in layman's terms.

heath

It is a camera head and lens for studio work or sports coverage -- anywhere that a tape transport is completely unnecessary.

the camera worked fine the next day.
I have been using it less continously and had no more problems.

I also cleaned the heads, so it may have been clogging.

Hi. I have been scanning this forum for awhile now, and it is very informative. I would love to do some tests with this camera. Does anyone know where a good cheap rental place I can rent it for a couple days or possibly even a owner that would be willing to rent it out. I am from Canada. Which would probably make a difference. Anyways, thanks. I hope to here from some of you.

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Double of Nothing Productions
http://www.francisbros.com

I have seen some ads in video magazines offering rentals. Specifically, don't remember which ones, but they were in L.A. and were geared more towards digital filmmaking. They also had DVX100A's and the like for rent, too.

heath

Check out Hollywood Studio Rentals (http://www.hollywoodstudiorentals.com/).

Funny, I just recommended them to somone else in another forum today!

Also check out Studio Gear (http://www.studiogear.net/products.asp). They are in Wisconsin which may be closer (or a shorter trip) depending on which part of Canada you're in.

Good luck.


Troy

Awesome, Troy!

heath

Just a quick note to invite anyone and everyone interested to a Breakfast at the Monte Carlo Hotel on Wednesday, April 21 - during NAB.

We'll chat about all things HDV (and other toys we saw at the show I'm sure) and put some names and faces together.

Please email me to confirm your attendance as I will have to book at Table at the Restaurant.

Email: darren@hdvtraining.com

Hope to see you there.

DBK

Wish I could go, but the Film Fest I work for (Palm Beach International Film Festival, that is) is once again at the same time! D'oh!

heath

Representative of JVC PAL community, please show yourself..I want to buy me GR-HD10 (no U)

Well next week we'll be shooting docudrama and interviews for 6 days straight. I won't have time to post here but I'll try to make notes on how the HD10 performs. ONe thing I noticed in my tests of the camera is that the lens really lets you get close to objects. It makes incredibly detailed close ups of small objects at an inch from the lens. Close ups of my cell phone face and chess pieces look very clean.

The viewfinder seems a bit inadequate for razor sharp focus and the lens has no F-stop marks or focus marks on it. One of my early tests with just the color viewfinder, was slightly soft when I pulled the video into the computer.

However, we bought a 9 inch BW Panasonic field monitor which solves the focus issue very nicely. The BW monitor also gives me a better sense of the relative range of whites, grays and blacks. I think its easier to tell if your white highlights are blown out, or if your blacks and shadows are crushed.

Oh yeah... if JVC asks me how to improve this camera, I'll tell them I need absolute manual control over focus, aperture and shutter speed.

Plus a 9 inch BW viewfinder on top......

Ed Hill

Hi Salim,

You wanted GR or JY?
If I'm not mistaken, JVC only has these 2 categories :

GR-HD1 and
JY-HD10

GR - consumer model
JY - Prosumer model (with XLR adapter)

That was interesting information. Let us know how the camera works out for you.

Just wondering, does anyone here know of the JVCGR/HD10U being used for any broadcast work yet? I would love to see some examples of it (either SD or HD...) shown on TV.

I heard a rumor that the guy that does "American Chopper" had used it occasionaly, but it's really hard to pick out if it's made it into the program or not.

I am seeing more and more commercials for HD Satelite networks. You would think cost-effective cams like this would be what DV cams are to broadcast journalism.

There is a pilot of a CBS summer show that is being shot with 3 HD10's. Have to wait and see what happens with those. With regards to the American Chopper guys, you would be referring to the shoot I did with them for a show called American Beauty Shop. It was only a pilot. Unfortunately the footage they asked for from me was 16x9 and I had to downconvert that 16x9 footage to DV. The producer made a mistake as the material was really 4x3 so in the actual show they had to take the downcoverted 16x9 footage and zoom and crop on it to get full frame 4x3. Not exactly the best results. I'll let you know if I hear anymore about the shows or if beauty shop reairs.

Hey thanks Mark, for the reply :)

Need a replacement Lens Hood for HD10 (HD1 is probably the same?)

Can't find the part number/supplier anywhere.

Help?

I dont know of a PAL HD10 with or without the U the closest PAL model is the PD1, which I have, it's not HD just standard PAL res but it shoots progressive frames in the same MPEG2 ts format as the Hd1/HD10U. JVC are not bringing out a PAL HD10, untill next year by which time the 3 chip US/Japan models will be out - if these turn out to shoot 25p or 24p they can be used in PAL land too! JVC PRO UK sell the US HD10U, but it still is a 30fps HD mode.

The PD1 image is downsampled from 1280 X 659 pixels to 720 x 576 16:9 anamorphic ie 1.422 pixel aspect - If you are shooting SD then this model gives some very nice results, im very happy with it especially when comparing my SD footage with other DV cameras, Theres lots more clarity in fine details than with DV - I can see the rain!

I really dont like the look of any compression at all but I can put up with high bitrate MPEG2 MUCH MUCH more than DV 25!

Regards,

Sam Sharpe

Go to www.jvc.com and click on the Pro site, then find the HD10 and click on that. There should be a list of parts you can order.

Or call the number listed on your warranty card.

Hope this helps!

heath

Thanks Heath, I found the lens hood for GR-HD1, which is supposedly the same as for HD10.

Surprisingly, this accessory is NOT available on JVC's pro site.

Go figure :)

Are there any products that allow a JY-HD10 user to record directly to hard disk?

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

There are no mobile disk units yet as you see in the DV world. However, you can capture to directly to a PC while shoot using the FireWire output. A tad inconvient but it does work.

A hard disk-based field recording solution for the HD recording mode would be especially nice.

If anybody hears of such a development, please e-mail:

jerry@jonesgroup.net

Thanks,

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

I have a JVC 30k DVHS (to play m2t files), and just recently added a Samsung SIR-T165 OTA receiver with firewire. On a whim, I connected the HD10 to the 30k (firewire) and played an OTA tape (Men in Black, CBS Sunday nite). The HD10 VF said it could not decode the signal. Undaunted, I pressed HD10 record anyway. It said it was recording - but no pic or sound. I rewound, and lo and behold I could play the HD10 tape through firewire with the 30K decoding - 1080I to my Samsung HLN5065W!

With footage? Or none? I'm pretty sure you can transfer from the HD10 to the D-VHS.

Are you talking about going from the HD10 through the D-VHS and into a firewire-capable computer?

heath

Heath,

No, I recorded a 1080I program off the air on the DVHS. I then copied a part of that program to the HD10 (even though the HD10 could not decode it). I then played the HD10 - still no decoding - but the DVHS (through firewire) decoded it fine - to HDTV.

My next step will be to see if the HD10 can be firewired to the tuner and record - and play back - broadcast HDTV WITHOUT DVHS machine. The tuner can completely control the DVHS (through firewire) and even initiate timer recording. If it does that, the HD10 could be a substitute for DVHS. The new companion HDV recorder-player might do this as well!

What do you think about the quality of this clip: encoded to about 3Mb/s 1280:720 resolution.
http://ottawa.hn.org/WEBSITES/john20040417_3mbs_divx5mp3.avi
(link will be available at around 3:30 am EST)
I know the camer shakes (like a lot) but the idea is to get your honest opinion on quality vs. bitrate.

Cheers.
Christopher

Looked good, pretty artifact distraction free.
It does show how poor the stabilization of the JVC is. It needs either a tripod or steady cam mount.
The detail coupled with the motion made me queasy, literally.

Well, what happened? Haven't heard a thing.
Ken

I haven't seen any JVC news here: http://www.nab.org, but NAB isn't over yet.

Music to my ears:

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 19, 2004--FOCUS Enhancements, Inc.(NASDAQ SC: FCSE), a worldwide leader in video production and conversion technology, today announced that it has become a supporter of the high-definition video (HDV) format established by the HDV forum, which includes Canon, Sharp, Sony and JVC. Related to this development, FOCUS Enhancements will support JVC's JY-HD10U HD Camera and other future HDV format compatible cameras.

Michael Conway, senior vice president of marketing for FOCUS Enhancements, stated, "We are committed to creating multi-format and multi-resolution video production products and solutions from acquisition through presentation, or 'glass-to-glass.' Our team has achieved broad file-format support for our FireStore line of Direct To Edit™ (DTE) recorders. The HDV format is the next logical direction for the FireStore family, and FOCUS Enhancements is developing Acquisition, Storage, Processing, and Presentation technology and products that comply with the new HDV specifications."

Robert Mueller, executive vice president for JVC Professional Products Company, said, "The successful integration of FOCUS Enhancements' DTE Technology into JVC's professional line of digital video (DV) based camcorders has created for our customers additional time-saving benefits via non-linear editing (NLE) workflow. We welcome FOCUS Enhancements as an HDV supporter, and we are excited about FOCUS Enhancements supporting the JY-HD10U HD Camera and other future HDV format compatible cameras."

In August, 2003, FOCUS Enhancements began shipping the FireStore DR-DV5000 with DTE to JVC. This week at the National Association of Broadcasters Conference (NAB) in Las Vegas, the company will demonstrate HDV format recording and playback with JVC. In addition at the FOCUS Enhancements booth # SL3501, the company will conduct ongoing demos of the complete FireStore family including FS-1 Desktop DTE Recorder, FS-2 Studio DTE Recorder, FS-3 Camera Mount DTE Recorder, and the JVC DR-DV5000 DTE Recorder and the new FS-M Standard Definition MPEG Recorder.

http://www.focusinfo.com/company/pr_new/041904_hdv.htm

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

There's this "revolutionary" mathematician who started up a company and is claiming to have created a program that can convert any frame rate to another frame rate. Here's the press release. The plug in is VERY expensive, though. A guy said he saw the various plug ins for himself, and said they are nothing short of amazing.

http://www.algolith.com/media/news/news.php?id=NABfrcPR.html

$1295-1995 isn't what I would call very expensive if it can do
what it claims. This means we can finally watch TV shows here
in Europe from the US without the stutter (some shows are
better than others). Ofcourse it is very expensive for a low
budget film maker. But he or she can just put it up on the web
for anyone to view. This is meant for serious TV and movie work.

If it is really that good then post/transfer companies will probably
buy the plugin(s) and offer their services to us customers at a
lower price since they can split the cost in that way.

Thanks anyway..

Purchasing a wide angle lens for the HD10. We are considering the Century optics .65 and the Cavision .65 Both allow zoom through. Now here is the problem. I was going to get a lens with a 58mm thread and an adaptor from 52mm just as in this link from B&H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=AvrRnq3G9E!16756119?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=179387&is=REG

I was talking to a support person from Cavision and he told me that I needed to get a lens with a 52mm thread. He said I could not use any of the Cavision 58mm wide angles as the adaptor ring would be visable. Is this true? If so how can Century optics sell their wide angle with a 52mm to 58mm ring adaptor? This system will be working with a Cavision 3X3 matte box which I was told would not be a problem but the adaptor ring for the wide angle would be if I didn't go with the 52mm.

Help.
Ken

SONY sells a 52mm wide adapter for their TRV900 camcorders. The lens is all glass (P/N #VCL-0752H) and it allows zoom through. It might work well with the HD10U as the TRV900 lens has more or less the same angle of coverage as the HD10U lens. Vignetting may still be a problem though. The SONY wide-adapter sells for about $55 on eBay which should be cheaper than something that Century might offer.

Keep in mind that practically all wide-adapters protrude forward and in SONY's case, the front element is about 77mm in diameter. So that may present problems for your matte-box.

I checked with Cavision if there would be any problems with viginetting when I add the Cavision 3x3 matte box with the .65 Cavision wide angle. . Apparently at the max zoomed out it is boarder line. You can see just a slight amount of viginetting, but if you zoom in just slightly there is no problem. Or you can remove a small amount of the inside edge of the matte box to fully fix any viginetting issues. I figure my trusty dremel with a sanding bit will fix it easily as you only have to remove a slight amount.
The cavision wide angle front is 72mm and is totaly compatable with all their matte boxes.
Ken

Is there a working process for creating a shallow depth of field 35mm like adapter for the hd10u, and where is that process located (a link, etc). I have read the links on the matter on this site and have been unable to locate a step by step process. If anyone knows of such a link I would greatly appreciate it. I have the process for the static gg adapter but the high def poses special problems.

Thanks

I have had the camera for about a month now. I love the picture quality on a HD TV. The only problem I have is the audio. I have a XLR mic from Radio Shack plugged into a Samson Mixpad 4. From the mixpad it goes 1/4" adapted to 1/8" to the camera. With the same setup on a GL-1, attenuator off, I was able to get a clear sound from the actors. With the HD1, I get a hiss that doesn't sound good. The mic also came with a cable that goes to 1/4" stereo plug, which is adapted to 1/8" for the external mic. With this, not going through the mixer, the level through the headphones is real low. Is the Beachtek able to fix the problem, if I avoid going through the mixer? I also found SignVideo has a less expensive similar product. I would prefer to go through the mixer, and at this time can not afford a DAT. I tried to search through the forum for a solution.

Thank you.

Patrick

Anyone used JY-HD10U Cleaning Tape? Any hassle with it or was it fine?

Thanks

I think I found a solution. I have a Sony MD that can record, and using the mixer and line in, I can record good sound. Instead of DAT, I will try using the MiniDisc.

I found this via a surfer/friend here on the boards. (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23385)

I have to admit, slapping a hard drive on the back would be a lot easier, esp. since my friend and I are producing HD content together (I shoot, he edits) and he doesn't even have the VH1 deck...

Sorry that the news is slightly old!

heath

Graham

I've used the regular JVC DV cleaning tape - didn't know there was a special one for the HD10. After entering record, the camera told me to use cleaning tape - sure 'nuff, clogged head. Glad I had the tape with me.

thanks

I have a wide angle that's too small for the HD-1 but otherwise is pretty nice. If I take the lens into a camera store what sort of thread adaptor should should I ask for for the HD-1 half?

If that doesn't work what's everybody's new favorite choice for wide adaptors for the HD-1?

Thanks all:)

Betsy,

Ever shoot that movie?

hwm