Dan Crandall
December 16th, 2004, 09:30 PM
You can upgrade from Vegas 5 to Vegas5 + DVD.
http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/shopping/category.asp?id=10&PRCat=30
http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/shopping/category.asp?id=10&PRCat=30
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Dan Crandall December 16th, 2004, 09:30 PM You can upgrade from Vegas 5 to Vegas5 + DVD. http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/shopping/category.asp?id=10&PRCat=30 Mark Paschke December 16th, 2004, 09:34 PM I want to keep the HD aspect ratio, shrink it, move it too lower left and put a 4:3 in top right, can this be done in Vegas 5? I have read the manual and been trying all day but cant seem to do anything but shrink it using distort plugin but it keeps it centered, pan and crop doesnt seem to do it either. Edward Troxel December 16th, 2004, 10:05 PM The Vegas 5 to Vegas 5 + DVD upgrade (http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=912&SPID=273) is really your only choice. It's $300 to upgrade. John Gaspain December 16th, 2004, 10:10 PM yea, ok. take two movie files and put them in separate time lines. Over lap them a bit, so the top one is the one that is going to get shrunk. then use "event pan/crop" icon that is on the video file you want to shrink is on the top timeline. <---very important, or else your small video will be behind the large one. "event pan/crop" is found on the timeline of the actual video file, it looks like a box with some shaggys hanging off two of the corners. in "event pan /crop" resize the picture by clicking on one of the very small blue box in one of thecorners of the picture. click and drag it to make it scale. THE BIG "F" that is overlayed on the picture- make that F bigger. This will resize the image to make it smaller, watch the size grow or shrink in your preview. Then you need to move it to a corner. Click on the CENTER of the big "F" so you see the four arrows cursor. Then drag the "F" into the corner you want. thats it! Dan Euritt December 16th, 2004, 11:02 PM unfortunately you probably can't encode dolby audio right now, correct? if you do have some way of doing that, then what you might want to do is to also look at other dvd authoring software instead of dvd architect. $300 is pretty cheap for a good dvd authoring package, but it never hurts to compare the capabilities of everything out there... for instance, how easy is it to create menus? will the dvd authoring package allow you to use different video frame sizes and bitrates on the same disc? etc. Dave Largent December 16th, 2004, 11:31 PM Same here ... and at the beginning, too. Mark Paschke December 17th, 2004, 01:20 AM thank you so much Im off to try it !!! Edward Troxel December 17th, 2004, 08:07 AM The AC3 encoder in Vegas does come with DVDA - not Vegas - so it is needed in order to encode AC3 audio. Bob Costa December 17th, 2004, 09:14 AM I am likely buying an HD camera next year. I know they will output DV, which makes it an easier decision. But now what I would like ot know is: If I record in HDV, capture it as DV, and edit it with Vegas, Can I recapture the video a year from now, and just run the project file against the new captures to get the same project in HD format? Or will I have to tweak or redo the project timeline later on? David Ennis December 17th, 2004, 12:09 PM Many People perusing ths board prior to buying Vegas are probably interested in what to expect for rendering times. I thought I'd post my own experience thus far and see if anyone else cares to follow suit. Processer: 2.4 Ghz Pentium IV Memory: 750 Mb DDR (2700) RAM Video: 34 MB NVidia Hard drives (2) WD 7200 RPM w/cache OS: XP Pro Material: a 98 minute first act of a stage play. Recorded with two cameras. Edited in Vegas using Excalibur to place 190 clips selected from the two videos onto the master track. Rendering times (ratios): 6.3:1--MPEG II, NTSC DV template, rendering set to "good", video set to best (31), all other defaults 6.3:1--AVI, NTSC DV template, rendering set to good, all other defaults 10.4:1--same as either of above, rendering set to "best" Note: I don't perceive any difference between "good" and "best" rendering for this kind of work. Michael Estepp December 17th, 2004, 12:42 PM Hey Folks, I want to hook up a small TV to my computer so that I can preview the look of things. Are there any recommendations on how to do this? I want to try and avoid two things, confusing the computer and having the TV magnets interferre with my computer monitors. Thanks Folks Michael Estepp Edward Troxel December 17th, 2004, 01:05 PM Computer -> firewire -> Camera/Convertor/Deck -> S-Video or RCA -> TV Van Lam December 17th, 2004, 04:07 PM Here's a good converter (cheap too, esp compared to the canopus advc-100): Link to (http://www.pcmall.com/pcmall/shop/detail.asp?store=pcmall&dpno=763755&source=CNETSHOPPERPC&adcampaign=email,CNETSHOPPERPC) Barry Rivadue December 17th, 2004, 08:38 PM Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but since it indirectly involves Vegas 5, here we are! I've been capturing clips into Vegas, making compilations on DVD. Sometimes the files add up to alot per project (i.e. 50 GB). After I'm done with a compilation I send all the files to the recycle bin. Zap. But each time I check my hard drive contents as to reclaimed space (that is, I capture 50 GB and then delete it after the project is done, expecting to be back where I started), I never seem to entirely recover the space previously used up. It's like I'm getting diminishing returns of reclaimed space on my hard drive after deleting each project. For every recycle bin session there seems to be a residual amount of GBs I never get back. I usually delete files from My Documents, since that's where the files are, but are there hidden, undeleted "shadow files" somewhere else? This is really baffling to me, but I hope it isn't to any of you! Michael Wisniewski December 17th, 2004, 10:21 PM Are you emptying the recycle bin too? The hard disk space is not allocated back until you do that. (Right-click - Empty Recycle Bin) Also are you deleting the DVD files? They might be the culprit. I usually keep those though, just in case I need to re-create the DVD. Barry Rivadue December 17th, 2004, 10:26 PM Yes, as to the Recycle Bin--and it goes "scrunch!" I also delete the DVD files after awhile. Could there be such a thing though as "phantom files?" Glenn Chan December 17th, 2004, 10:28 PM You can try the utility "treesize" to help you out. I prefer the freeware version over the pro one. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml David Ennis December 17th, 2004, 10:33 PM I agree with Glenn-- "Treesize" is a great little utility. You probably have a directory somewhere that is having intermediate media files added to it, and Treesize will point it out. Edward Troxel December 17th, 2004, 10:36 PM Do you have Norton Utilities installed? Is IT'S Recycle Bin empty? Barry Rivadue December 18th, 2004, 12:16 PM Thanks for the tips but I hit upon a solution right under my nose. I found "Disk Cleanup" in the XP software. I opted for eliminating "unnecessary" compressed files (which I never actually saw listed anywhere). Once done I regained 60 GB of free space!! Anyway, I do appreciate all your input. Kevin Kwak December 18th, 2004, 04:29 PM Hello. After you have completed editing your final video, in what format do you save as/render as to archive your work? I always render as .avi format for future use and I started rendering as .mpg2 format to use for dvd authoring. Kevin Kwak December 18th, 2004, 05:06 PM Hello, I like to make the video clip show the title, the artist, and the copyright information when played in Windows Media Player. I go to File -> Properties -> Summary -> and add all the information. After I render the clip, the video only shows "Playlist: Playlist1" and "Clip: Title" How do you add the title, artists, and copyright information on the actual clip? Thank you in advance. Lamar Lamb December 18th, 2004, 05:20 PM Ok, writing over tapes has finally caught up with me. I found myself wanting to re-use some footage from last summer and I have already overwritten the tape containing the scene I need. I have been able to extract the audio and video off a master DVD and convert it to .avi but am worried about the quality loss when re-compressing the already once compressed footage back to mpeg2 & ac3 for DVD. Will there be a noticable degradation in image and/or sound quality??? Dave Livingston December 18th, 2004, 07:19 PM I have been shooting western action videos and editing them with windows movie maker for about 2 years. I have a Sony PDX10 on order and want to upgrade my editing software too. I have a lot of my videos hosted on Neptune. Is Vegas too big of a jump for me to go to for NLE software? I know there will be a learning curve. I have a fairly late model HP Pavillion Pentium 4 and a 150 GB hard drive. I would appreciate any advice. James Millne December 18th, 2004, 08:52 PM Download the trial and have a play about, thats the easy answer and that is what they are there for. I found vegas very easy to pick up and at the same time very intuitive. In contrast I found premiere to be more cumbersome (others will tell of their experiences differently). At the end of the day it is another one of those eye of the beholder answers. If you are serious about editing you will definately not regret moving away from WMM. I don't think it will be hard to transfer the skills you have learnt from WMM to any of the more serious NLE's out there and at the same time you will open up a lot more possibilities in your post production. Edward Troxel December 18th, 2004, 08:53 PM Vegas is the type of software that you can use as little as or as much as you want. If you get it and start doing simple edits - that's fine. But then you still have the power to grow as your abilities and needs increase as well. Edward Troxel December 18th, 2004, 09:14 PM While there is always some loss, how does the new AVI file look? Your final render should look very similar. Edward Troxel December 18th, 2004, 09:36 PM I always to a print to tape to archive the final product. I render to MPEG2 when creating DVDs. As for archiving the project, keep the VEG file, any added media, and the original tapes. You can always recapture the original footage. Dave Livingston December 18th, 2004, 09:37 PM James, I played with Premier some time back and also found it cumbersome, but of course I didn't spend a lot of time to learn to use it. As I recall it locked up on me a lot, which was not fun. This site is amazing for the knowledge that people here have. I will use it a bunch I know. Edward Troxel December 18th, 2004, 09:41 PM File - Render As - WMV format - Custom - Go to the LAST tab. Brian Bechard December 19th, 2004, 02:42 AM I can't get Magic Bullet LTD. to run in vegas for some reason. Everytime I download and install the program it only puts the unintaller on my computer. What am I doing wrong? I have downloaded and installed other plugins and they're working fine. The Magic bullet plugin shows up in vegas, but when I click to use it, it comes up as an error and exits me out of Vegas altogether. I want to use this program to see if I want to purchase MBE. Dennis Adams December 19th, 2004, 08:54 AM I would recommend using Track Motion (button on the video track header) instead of Event Pan/Crop for dual-view output like you want. That's what it's designed for. Like John said, put each clip on a separate track and then use Track Motion to compose their output in the final output frame. ///d@ Sony Media Software Lamar Lamb December 19th, 2004, 11:23 AM The avi looks good on external preview to a 13" TV. I guess it's just knowing it could be a hair better if I had kept that tape. Makes me crazy....... (obsessive-compulsive) Lamar Lamb December 19th, 2004, 11:41 AM I'm running a 1Ghz AMD Athlon and 384 MB SDRAM and my time varies according to the complexity and number of tracks in the timeline. If I render to avi my times are typically much faster than rendering to mpeg2. Throw in some event effects and panning and those then become the bottleneck. Rendering a simple 1.5 hour dance recital with some stock transitions and very few effects to mpeg2 took less than 6 hours while rendering a 1.2 hour wedding with 9 tracks(a couple of them 3D tracks), lots of keyframes, and lots of effects to mpeg2 took over 9 hours. The 3D track movement really seems to bring my system to its knees. All times are at the "Good" setting for render quality. Edward Troxel December 19th, 2004, 12:46 PM It should show up on the effect tab and is added just like adding any other effect. Dan Euritt December 19th, 2004, 11:13 PM you can use any ac3 encoder you want to make ac3 audio, so if you already have one, why buy another? after awhile, you begin to realize that most of these editing packages that include dvd authoring software have too many limitations... vegas5+dvd could be the best of the bunch, but i bet that dvdlab pro runs rings around it when it comes to making serious dvd's. most of us probably won't need that kind of capability, but if it's in your future plans, start looking at your options now. Chris Moore December 20th, 2004, 08:09 AM I have a Asus P4PE with a Geforce 4 64 meg video card. Pentium 4 2.4 Gig CPU. 40 GIG IDE ata100 Hard Drive. 1 stick of Crucial 512Meg. PC2700 DDR ram. I am thinking I should get A SATA Hard Drive as an addition to my other. I am using Vegas 5.0 w DVDA. Should I Upgrade my CPU to Hyperthreading Level, or Get more Ram first. Could someone who is smarter than I (most poeple on this forum) maybe rank these steps in order of importance and possibly add others I'm not thinking of. Chris Moore December 20th, 2004, 08:12 AM Could anyone post links to tweaks I could or should make on an editing computer? I found some good info on the videoguys site. Is there any other good info availible for mining on the net? Edward Troxel December 20th, 2004, 08:24 AM More RAM can definitely help. Consider getting a second 512 Meg stick. More hard drive will be NEEDED. The 40 Gig drive will be too small to do any serious work. Get a second drive for your media. Edward Troxel December 20th, 2004, 08:31 AM I make no vouches for any of these places but simply typing in "XP Tweaks" in Google yields MANY possible places. In addition to Video Guys tips (www.videoguys.com/WinXP.html), you might also check: www.tweakxp.com/ www.blackviper.com/WinXP/supertweaks.htm www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/ downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx www.musicxp.net/ www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20011204S0009 Matthew Lombardo December 20th, 2004, 09:30 AM Hello, I'm a new user and have been using vegas for a few weeks now. I was wondering if someone could help me out and give me some examples of the settings they use in vegas to post video to the internet. Most of my work will be online at my website. Clips may be 5 minutes. Just not sure what setting may work best to get the best video for other viewers. I have been experimenting a bit with different compressions, but not sure which is correct if any? Thank you for your help, Matt John Lee December 20th, 2004, 11:10 AM I agree, you definitely need more storage space. 1 hour of minidv footage = 13GB. I find it very difficult to do any project without at least 60GB minimum free. (Which is why I recently bought a 300GB SATA drive for $206). If cost is a concern, you could even pick up a 200GB ATA drive for about $110. Chris Moore December 20th, 2004, 12:14 PM I have an SATA port to use and its my understanding that they're faster. I will also Upgrade my ram. Any way to configure SATA and Original ATA drive? Example i've heard Only media on bigger drive. Edward as much as you reply on this forum and others you must be injecting coffee! Thanks for the input guys! Fred Finn December 20th, 2004, 12:33 PM Hello, So yeah like the subject. It did this, I reinstalled windows and vegas (clean on a new hardrive). And this is STILL happening!! Anyone have any ideas? Other formats don't have this problem. Edward Troxel December 20th, 2004, 01:12 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Chris Moore : Edward as much as you reply on this forum and others you must be injecting coffee! -->>> I don't even drink coffee!!! Keep all of your OS/programs on your 40 gig drive. Use the new drive strictly for media files. Glenn Chan December 20th, 2004, 11:55 PM I have an SATA port to use and its my understanding that they're faster. I will also Upgrade my ram. Any way to configure SATA and Original ATA drive? Example i've heard Only media on bigger drive. SATA is generally faster because they are the newer model drives. For DV work, you really won't see a practical speed difference between PATA and SATA. A hyperthreading processor won't really help things, although a higher clock speed processor will. 800FSB versus 533FSB (front side bus) also makes a few percent difference in speed, as does hyperthreading. I'd hold off upgrading as you're not going to see a big jump in performance right now (around 30% in render speed with a 3.2ghz Pentium processor... assuming it's compatible). Wait until faster processors come out, when you can upgrade your motherboard + processor + RAM at the same time (you'll likely need to do all three at the same time, as a newer motherboard may need newer DDR2 RAM). 2- Your system is likely good enough to edit video with. Vegas doesn't need a bleeding edge computer. Just get more hard drive space and you're set. Maybe dual monitors if you don't have that already. Ken Plotin December 21st, 2004, 12:32 AM If you rendered to UNCOMPRESSED .avi, most systems would have trouble playing that back in real time to an external monitor without some jittering. Does this happen when you render to standard DV format .avi's from Vegas? Ken Rob Lohman December 21st, 2004, 04:52 AM Please take a look at our pretty extensive thread on Top Gear and how they achieve "the look": http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33117 Rob Lohman December 21st, 2004, 05:12 AM That is correct indeed. The problem was probably not even the MJPEG codec but that you had a wrong one. There are two codec standard on Windows: - Video for Windows (VfW, the old one) - Directshow (the new one) You probably already had a codec if you could play the movies in mediaplayers, but it probably would've been a VfW codec (which is often the case with MJPEG codecs). I'd bet you now got a Directshow MJPEG codec, but ofcourse I could be wrong, hehe. Glad it all worked out! Rob Lohman December 21st, 2004, 05:16 AM Matthew: just so you know: i.Link = IEEE1394 = firewire |