Movies We Didn't Like.

Keith Loh · April 24th, 2004, 02:51 PM

I don't like Braveheart either. I like battle movies. I like historical movies. But Braveheart also fell under the definition of mawkish. And the battle scenes, while under the veneer of authenticity, were uninspiring. Flat, linear direction. It doesn't inspire me to see The Passion of the Christ based upon Gibson's previous directing effort.

Another bad Gibson movie in which he starred was The Patriot which had me aghast at how cliches could be trundled out in such a lazy fashion.

Rob Belics · April 24th, 2004, 05:10 PM

Yep. Hated The Patriot.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · April 24th, 2004, 05:14 PM

"All three did tie together. In fact, The second rolls right into the third without stopping and unless you saw the second you wouldn't understand the start of the third."

The gap isn't between the second and third film (which were written, a la Back to the Future Part 2 and Part 3, as one too-long story and delivered as two separate movies)--it's between the first film and its sequels.

There are so many plot holes, errors of science, misconceptions of philosophy and psychology in those films, and really only mediocre action to boot, since there was little suspense to any of the peripatetic fight sequences (especially in the sequels).

I think I know why the sequels failed to resonate with audiences as the first film did--if anyone wants to hear my theory.

April 24th, 2004, 06:20 PM

Top Recent Awful Movies:

Starship Troopers - To me it didn't satirize society, it satirzed the book from which it was drawn.

Pearl Harbor - Holy moses, what were they thinking?

We Were Soldiers - An incredible book, botched by Sir Mel. The utterly unbelievable, yes, mawkish ending mady me want to puke. And the title! "We were soldiers once, and young" says something about a lost youth, marred by war while
"We were soldiers" says simply, Duh.

Daredevil - Maybe we can pay Ben Affleck to never be in another movie ever again. Ever.

Natural Born Killers - I read somewhere that the original store was written by Quentin Tarentino, but after he saw what Oliver Stone did with it, he asked to not be given a writing credit. I don't blame him a bit.

Rob Belics · April 24th, 2004, 06:24 PM

Robert,

Personally I'm burned out trying to explain it all to the unclean masses.

:)

Alfred Okocha · April 24th, 2004, 07:24 PM

Fun thread, felt I just had to contribute a bit here..
I completely agree with Natural Born Killers.. actually anything Oliver Stone makes put me to sleep fairly fast!

The royal tannenbaums.. is that the name? Well something like it. Never got what it was supposed to be... Lots of people were laughing around me though.

I agree on Chicago.. Loved Moulin Rouge though.

The Barbarian invasion. won the oscar for best foreign movie?? The worst crap I've seen in years!! (I'd rather watch Legally Blond 24 hours than watching that crap again.)

And finally I'll lose all my credibility, if I had one in the first place, that is..
The Godfather series.. What a hype!! AlPacino is boring.. (Before you disagree go and see, "searching for Richard the third" or something along those lines.)

How about the opposite.. a movie everybody thought stinking and you actually liked? (like mission impossible 2 or waterworld..)

Linda Schodowsky · April 24th, 2004, 07:50 PM

Hey...

What about Gigli?

Anyone see it? Actually, scratch that.... I don't think anyone would 'fess up to it!

Federico Dib · April 24th, 2004, 08:02 PM

Someone here rented "Swept Away"... and I actually watched about half an hour of it.

I think Madonna blackmailed or somehow forced Guy Ritchie to make that piece of @#~¬.

While watching it I got the feeling, that no one on the set actually cared about the movie. No body believed in it (maybe Madonna?). It was like, ok we are getting payed, let´s get over with it.

Alfred: I did like Waterworld, and The Postman (a little bit), and while I´m with Costner.. I also liked that one with Kurt Russel where they rob a casino dressed like Elvis...

Dylan Couper · April 24th, 2004, 09:47 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Alfred Okocha : Fun thread, felt I just had to contribute a bit here..

How about the opposite.. a movie everybody thought stinking and you actually liked? (like mission impossible 2 or waterworld..) -->>>

Yeah, Starship Troopers for me. :)

John Hudson · April 25th, 2004, 09:56 PM

Pearl Harbor! Yes! It was horrible. The ATTACK sequence was great stuff in CGI land but the movie was sooooooo bad. M. Bay is just bad for cinema.

Rich Lee · April 27th, 2004, 12:24 AM

We Were Soldiers! oh man, i saw that moviein the theater! so awfull that it became funny....it looked like it was shot in the santa monica moutains right here in good old southern cali. i herd they had to remove the hollywood sign from some shots.

I couldnt make it through the royal tannenbaums, put me right to sleep.

Joe Carney · April 27th, 2004, 09:56 AM

>>Another bad Gibson movie in which he starred was The Patriot which had me aghast at how cliches could be trundled out in such a lazy fashion.<<
Yes, I actually was rooting for the English by the end. Yuch. We were soldiers could never figure out what it was trying to say, and what it did say was sentimental and pathetic.

Scorsese hasn't had a decent film in over 20 years, why do they continue to lionize him?

Pearl Harbor. Well at least he made up for it with Pirates of the Carribean. See Tora Tora Tora for a good Pearl Harbor flick.

Swept Away? Guy Ritchie wouldn't let Madonna do the sex scenes and a lot of other stuff from the original, and yes I blame him for this piece of crap, not Madonna.
The only good thing he's done recently was the BMW short making fun of his new wife Madonna (she was actually pretty good in that one).

Dune part 2 on the scifi channel. The first one was passable for a very low budget movie, but the second series just plane sucked. They totally lost their way.

Just about any movie where English actors are playing Americans and don't get the accent right. Especially when they try to talk 'Southern' and constantly slip back into their native way of speaking. Really annoying, and it takes me out of the movie.
(I was raised in the south and know the dif between an accurate and phony southern accent).

I have to say I do like Kubrick. But he's an acquired taste for most.
Anybody who says he is overrated really doesn't understand his films. take the time to watch them again, and again if needed.

Keith Loh · April 27th, 2004, 12:42 PM

You didn't even like "Goodfellas" (1990), Joe?

Joe Carney · April 27th, 2004, 09:58 PM

Okay I take it back, 14 years then. Forgot about GoodFellas.

Welcome to the USA Keith, hehehe.

btw the latest issue if RES magazine has an interesting opinion piece by Rob Nilsson I think everyone should read.

Alfred Okocha · April 28th, 2004, 12:22 PM

Oh yeah, I just remembered. Could anybody PLEASE explain what exactly was SO fantastic with BASIC INSTINCT??

Okej Sharon Stone and all that, but the movie steamed quit alot IMHO..

April 24th, 2004, 02:51 PM	#46
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	I don't like Braveheart either. I like battle movies. I like historical movies. But Braveheart also fell under the definition of mawkish. And the battle scenes, while under the veneer of authenticity, were uninspiring. Flat, linear direction. It doesn't inspire me to see The Passion of the Christ based upon Gibson's previous directing effort. Another bad Gibson movie in which he starred was The Patriot which had me aghast at how cliches could be trundled out in such a lazy fashion. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

April 24th, 2004, 05:14 PM	#48
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	Matrix "All three did tie together. In fact, The second rolls right into the third without stopping and unless you saw the second you wouldn't understand the start of the third." The gap isn't between the second and third film (which were written, a la Back to the Future Part 2 and Part 3, as one too-long story and delivered as two separate movies)--it's between the first film and its sequels. There are so many plot holes, errors of science, misconceptions of philosophy and psychology in those films, and really only mediocre action to boot, since there was little suspense to any of the peripatetic fight sequences (especially in the sequels). I think I know why the sequels failed to resonate with audiences as the first film did--if anyone wants to hear my theory. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 24th, 2004, 08:02 PM	#53
Federico Dib Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 312	Someone here rented "Swept Away"... and I actually watched about half an hour of it. I think Madonna blackmailed or somehow forced Guy Ritchie to make that piece of @#~¬. While watching it I got the feeling, that no one on the set actually cared about the movie. No body believed in it (maybe Madonna?). It was like, ok we are getting payed, let´s get over with it. Alfred: I did like Waterworld, and The Postman (a little bit), and while I´m with Costner.. I also liked that one with Kurt Russel where they rob a casino dressed like Elvis... __________________ Messenger Boy : The Thessalonian you're fighting, he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him. Achilles : That is why no one will remember your name.

April 24th, 2004, 09:47 PM	#54
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Alfred Okocha : Fun thread, felt I just had to contribute a bit here.. How about the opposite.. a movie everybody thought stinking and you actually liked? (like mission impossible 2 or waterworld..) -->>> Yeah, Starship Troopers for me. :) __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

April 27th, 2004, 12:24 AM	#56
Rich Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Ca Posts: 126	We Were Soldiers! oh man, i saw that moviein the theater! so awfull that it became funny....it looked like it was shot in the santa monica moutains right here in good old southern cali. i herd they had to remove the hollywood sign from some shots. I couldnt make it through the royal tannenbaums, put me right to sleep. __________________ Rich Lee http://www.rich-lee.com

April 24th, 2004, 05:10 PM	#47
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	Yep. Hated The Patriot.

April 24th, 2004, 06:20 PM	#49
Kevin Walsh Posts: n/a	Top Recent Awful Movies: Starship Troopers - To me it didn't satirize society, it satirzed the book from which it was drawn. Pearl Harbor - Holy moses, what were they thinking? We Were Soldiers - An incredible book, botched by Sir Mel. The utterly unbelievable, yes, mawkish ending mady me want to puke. And the title! "We were soldiers once, and young" says something about a lost youth, marred by war while "We were soldiers" says simply, Duh. Daredevil - Maybe we can pay Ben Affleck to never be in another movie ever again. Ever. Natural Born Killers - I read somewhere that the original store was written by Quentin Tarentino, but after he saw what Oliver Stone did with it, he asked to not be given a writing credit. I don't blame him a bit.

April 24th, 2004, 06:24 PM	#50
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	Robert, Personally I'm burned out trying to explain it all to the unclean masses. :)

April 24th, 2004, 07:24 PM	#51
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	Fun thread, felt I just had to contribute a bit here.. I completely agree with Natural Born Killers.. actually anything Oliver Stone makes put me to sleep fairly fast! The royal tannenbaums.. is that the name? Well something like it. Never got what it was supposed to be... Lots of people were laughing around me though. I agree on Chicago.. Loved Moulin Rouge though. The Barbarian invasion. won the oscar for best foreign movie?? The worst crap I've seen in years!! (I'd rather watch Legally Blond 24 hours than watching that crap again.) And finally I'll lose all my credibility, if I had one in the first place, that is.. The Godfather series.. What a hype!! AlPacino is boring.. (Before you disagree go and see, "searching for Richard the third" or something along those lines.) How about the opposite.. a movie everybody thought stinking and you actually liked? (like mission impossible 2 or waterworld..)

April 24th, 2004, 07:50 PM	#52
Linda Schodowsky Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Berea, Ohio Posts: 139	Hey... What about Gigli? Anyone see it? Actually, scratch that.... I don't think anyone would 'fess up to it!

April 25th, 2004, 09:56 PM	#55
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Pearl Harbor! Yes! It was horrible. The ATTACK sequence was great stuff in CGI land but the movie was sooooooo bad. M. Bay is just bad for cinema.

April 27th, 2004, 09:56 AM	#57
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	>>Another bad Gibson movie in which he starred was The Patriot which had me aghast at how cliches could be trundled out in such a lazy fashion.<< Yes, I actually was rooting for the English by the end. Yuch. We were soldiers could never figure out what it was trying to say, and what it did say was sentimental and pathetic. Scorsese hasn't had a decent film in over 20 years, why do they continue to lionize him? Pearl Harbor. Well at least he made up for it with Pirates of the Carribean. See Tora Tora Tora for a good Pearl Harbor flick. Swept Away? Guy Ritchie wouldn't let Madonna do the sex scenes and a lot of other stuff from the original, and yes I blame him for this piece of crap, not Madonna. The only good thing he's done recently was the BMW short making fun of his new wife Madonna (she was actually pretty good in that one). Dune part 2 on the scifi channel. The first one was passable for a very low budget movie, but the second series just plane sucked. They totally lost their way. Just about any movie where English actors are playing Americans and don't get the accent right. Especially when they try to talk 'Southern' and constantly slip back into their native way of speaking. Really annoying, and it takes me out of the movie. (I was raised in the south and know the dif between an accurate and phony southern accent). I have to say I do like Kubrick. But he's an acquired taste for most. Anybody who says he is overrated really doesn't understand his films. take the time to watch them again, and again if needed.

April 27th, 2004, 12:42 PM	#58
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	You didn't even like "Goodfellas" (1990), Joe? __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

April 27th, 2004, 09:58 PM	#59
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Okay I take it back, 14 years then. Forgot about GoodFellas. Welcome to the USA Keith, hehehe. btw the latest issue if RES magazine has an interesting opinion piece by Rob Nilsson I think everyone should read.

April 28th, 2004, 12:22 PM	#60
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	Oh yeah, I just remembered. Could anybody PLEASE explain what exactly was SO fantastic with BASIC INSTINCT?? Okej Sharon Stone and all that, but the movie steamed quit alot IMHO..