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Brent Ethington October 7th, 2007 02:50 PM

David,

I've used the slideshow functionality in Encore CS3 with blu-ray discs, and it has worked for me. Be aware that there's a bug in Encore where the still images in a blu-ray slideshow are actually scaled down to DVD resolution, then scaled up to blu-ray resolution instead of being scaled down from original resolution to blu-ray resolution - this yields slideshows that don't deliver full resolution. So, I've ended up using Premiere Pro to create slideshow timelines and then export to Encore (which then burn fine and look great).

Brent

Steve Mullen October 12th, 2007 03:39 AM

New Blu-ray burner may foreshadow BD for HD7
 
JVC has been beaten about the ears for using .m2ts rather than .m2t. Reviewers have screamed that if they had recorded .m2t files then NLEs would have supported the camcorder.

They made this claim because they didn't know many NLEs DO support .m2ts.

And, the reviewers failed to understand that .m2ts is Transport Stream for disks while .m2t is Transport Stream for tape and broadcast. The HD7 uses a hard disk. What else uses .m2ts? Blu-ray discs do. (As does AVCHD.)

Disks/discs require 188-byte data Packets to be saved in a buffer until they are written to disk/disc. While waiting, time passes. To keep track of time, a 4-byte TC is added to the 188-byte packets. The result is a 192-byte packet. This is .m2ts. (Also called a BDAV MPEG-2 transport stream.) JVC calls it TOD which I think is "Transport-stream On Disk."

(Here's an official definition of the process: To keep the proper timing of each TS packet, a Time stamp is added to every TS packet. The time stamp represents the arrival time of the TS packet. In this way the correct timing of the TS packets during playback can be restored. In a stream, the Source packets with a length of 192 bytes (Transport Stream Packet + Time stamp) are packed in Units and the Units are concatenated into a Clip stream file.)

So if there were a cheap, fast, 50GB BD burner, JVC could pack one into the CU-VD40 case.

SAN JOSE, Calif., Oct. 9, 2007 – Sony Electronics today announced its second generation internal Blu-ray Disc (BD) writer drive which boasts 4X BD-R recording speed. The BWU-200S model cuts BD-R burning time by half compared to the first generation model, allowing for a full 50GB BD-R disc to be recorded in about 45 minutes. It will cost about $600.

So, JVC knew exactly where it was going when they went with TOD. And, it means at CES we may see a CU-VD60 that will be a USB backup device for the HD7; a BD burner for a PC; plus a BD playback unit for the home.

Tony Spring October 18th, 2007 11:43 PM

Im now able to answer my own question after buying a 'cheap' 40g PS3.

Ulead BDMV (with menus & chapters) discs DO play on the PS3, but Ulead BDAV (no menus or chapters) wont play on the PS3.

Paul Leung October 28th, 2007 02:34 AM

Blu-ray + HD DVD multi drive
 
Does anyone know if they will sell this drive in the US? I have never heard of this brand before.

http://72.14.203.104/translate_c?hl=...d-h6/index.htm
It supports dual layer as well!

Noah Hayes November 4th, 2007 03:57 PM

HDV to AVCHD to play in Bluray Player
 
So I'm working on a project that I'll be taking my HDV footage from an FX! and the output needs to be able to be played on a Bluray player (but I don't have a bluray burner). Anyone know how to render AVCHD to put on a standard DVD using Final Cut Studio?

Kevin D Brady November 18th, 2007 05:16 PM

Blu-Ray software player
 
I'm shooting and editing in HDV and presently delivering in SD on DVD but at some time will want to burn to Blu-Ray and I'll buy a burner.

Prior, I'd like to export Blu-Ray projects as disc images or as a folder structure on my hard drive which I can play back in HD from my computer.
When I get my burner I can copy them to the Blu-ray disc.

Are there and Blu-ray software players which will read Blu-ray disc folders created on a hard drive - like WinDVD and others will play a SD DVD folder? Nero 8 is supposed to but the trial version says it doesn't recognize the files a being DVD files - they aren't after all.

To get a SD DVD software player to recognize a DVD stored in a hard disc folder one usually plays one of the *.ifo files in the VIDEO_TS folder. Which file in the more complex Blu-ray directory structure do you have the player open?

Thanks in advance

Kevin

Giroud Francois November 19th, 2007 04:03 AM

powerDVD ?

Noah Hayes November 21st, 2007 11:25 AM

wow, still no one has any ideas?

Jon Omiatek November 29th, 2007 02:45 PM

Bluray Bd-r's
 
I have been burning BD-R's but I am having problems with about 1/2 the set top players, all sony's will not play the BD-R's.

My Sony ps3 will play them and two samsung units have played them.

Is anyone else having this problem?

Gary J. Walker November 29th, 2007 06:18 PM

Same here, been using Roxio Pro-HD, the only player that works for me (which I bought) is the panasonic DMP BD-10A...Tried about six others none worked properly. Gary

Kaku Ito December 11th, 2007 09:36 PM

Blu-ray, DVD, Flash contents production united in Adobe Encore CS3, just updated!
 
I was testing around HD contents and Blu-ray drive installed in my Mac Pro 8 Core with Toast 8 and Adobe Encore CS3 for awhile.
I had reported about making backups with Toast but saving 50GB would takes over 12 hours and dissapointed, also, I was able to burn Blu-ray with the Encore CS3, but it crashed oftenly (under Tiger) and also there was mulfunctioning issue with the timeline and the clips won't be able to playback nor browse. However, not it's time to take advantage of this internal Blu-ray drive for sure.

Last night, I noticed that Adobe had released new Leopard compatible versions of Premiere Pro CS3, Aftter Effects CS3 and Encore CS3.
It is not like Apple's online update that takes minuites to update (I guess Apple has better server scheme), so it took long to download, but it was worth the wait. I installed all of the updates and tried Encore CS3 and gave a try.
Now mostly seems to work well. Great!

So, I thrown in clips from HPX555, HVX200, Canon G1 and PMW-EX1, made some settings for browsing, and burnt the disc with no problems.
I put the disc in the Playstation 3 (Sony wants to make it as full-functioned Blu-ray player, I think, a lot of improvements in features comparing to PS2 being able to playback DVD), then everything playbacks okay!

I encoed with best quality H.264 and I'm satisfied with the quality so far.
Both 60i and 24p played back well. When you playback each different formats, PS3 makes the switch in the resolution.

I will give the report and also upload the flash content made from the same authoring of Blu-ray! That's amazing!

Josh Chesarek December 12th, 2007 05:59 AM

Glad to hear it is working. The export to flash feature is a huge plus for me when I want to show clients a sample DVD but not have to take the time to mail one to them. If they have broadband or can get to it they are set. I am also really happy to see adobing releasing updates fairly quickly for their product line and hope it continues into the future.

Kaku Ito December 12th, 2007 12:24 PM

Here's the sample of the flash content. The clips are at their highest quality setting for the flash movie (which is set in the Encore CS3), but the dotMac speed doesn't seem to be feasible to play back smoothly, so I probably have to lower the quality.

http://homepage.mac.com/musetex/index.html

Paulo Teixeira December 14th, 2007 05:07 PM

FastMac 4x Dual Layer Blu-Ray Burner
 
http://fastmac.com:16080/press/pr_50.php

Dave Christensen December 14th, 2007 05:58 PM

Pretty awesome! Does anyone have any experience with these or some of the other HD-DVD/BR options out there for OSX? I'm curious to see what peoples' workflows look like from FCS.

Paulo Teixeira December 14th, 2007 06:02 PM

It’s for Adobe Premiere.
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=110019

Next month Apple is rumored to update DVD Studio to support HD discs.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...s%2F2007-12-05

David Moody December 28th, 2007 03:55 PM

Best location for information on Blu ray authoring with CS3?
 
Best location for information on Blu ray authoring with CS3?

It seems that there is limited info on the Adobe forums.

The Blu-ray forum mostly deals with movies and players.

There don't seem to be a lot of posts about it on this forum.

I would like more info. on player compatability and settings with BDMV and BD-R.

There are lots of high def camcorders and PS3's out there. Someone has to be doing it.

Tyson Persall December 31st, 2007 04:27 PM

Is there a way to Frame Grab a still from Blu-Ray disk?
 
Is there a way to do a frame grab of a single shot from a Blu-Ray disk?
I tried Print screen but it seems to not work when A blu Ray disk is playing on my Sony VIAO laptop.

I asume there is a way to do this?

Nik Skjoth January 5th, 2008 04:51 PM

Did you try to use Fraps?

Michael Jouravlev January 5th, 2008 05:03 PM

Try turning DirectX off.

Andrew Wilson January 19th, 2008 10:41 AM

Current state of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray on a mac
 
I've looked through old posts but some threads are too old to know what's current.

I'm shooting with a PMW-EX1 and editing on FCP 6.0.2 and use DVDStudioPro4.

What are my options for delivering either blu-ray dvd's and/or HD-DVD's.

and what's compatibility like for playback on set-top players? (including PS3)

What are the limitations? I've read that it's possible to create discs but can't do menus. I've read that you can author HD-DVDs but can't burn them and that you can burn Blu-ray's but there's no good way to author them.

I'm looking at doing mostly one-offs so I wouldn't be replicating them (unless I had to)

Tom Roper January 19th, 2008 12:45 PM

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David Moody January 19th, 2008 06:45 PM

I use Encore CS3 on a PC, but burned discs with Encore CS3 on a Mac should be the same.

With Encore you can burn in BDMV format with standard DVD like menus including motion menus and chapter stops.

Plays fine on PS3, Panasonic DMP-BD30K and Samsung BD-P1400. I have heard that with current software updates the Sony players also work, but I have not tested them. (The newest PS3 software may affect playback for PAL users)

Encore does not offer subtitle support currently for Blu ray projects.

Encore does not support HD-DVD.

FCP currently has no support for Blu-ray authoring.

Aaron Courtney February 3rd, 2008 12:49 PM

Render to Blu Ray back to HG10 for Playback
 
Like a lot of people (most, I presume), I have neither a blu ray burner or player at this point so I spent about six hours yesterday trying to figure out how to render out of Vegas to a file that I could transfer back to the Canon HG10 for hi def playback via the HDMI (or component) jack.

I was able to figure it out and everything looked fine on my 50" Sammy plasma, but I'm not sure of some of the implications. So I'm looking for some feedback here.

Specifically, I shot a bunch of 24p clips, converted .mts files to .avi's via Cineform NEO HDV to remove pulldown. The only option that I could find to create .m2ts files from Vegas was to use the Sony AVC codec and choose the MPEG-2 transport stream format under the system tab in the custom template settings. Unfortunately this limits a couple of key settings that were relevant to my project.

First, it limited the audio sampling rate to 48k which meant that my CD audio track had to be resampled on the fly (would have had SoundForge do that if I had known prior) which could introduce all kinds of aliasing issues if it isn't handled well. Second, the audio bandwidth was limited to 256K, which I guess makes the SRC a moot point since the audio is pretty much guaranteed to sound like crap on a decent playback system - Sony, how about we get lossless audio options here. Third, and most importantly though, it limited the frame rate to 29.97 (or 25 PAL).

This is where I don't exactly know what's going on with the 24p material. So I figured I'd toss out this question for those who might know while I do some more experimenting on my end.

Aaron Courtney February 4th, 2008 01:54 PM

Just want to bump this thread....I assume Vegas is simply telecining during rendering to get the resulting .m2ts file to 29.976 NTSC. Is this correct and does anyone have any idea how well Vegas performs this task? Should be relatively straightforward 3:2 pulldown...

From what I recall, the edited footage looked the same as the raw .mts clips during playback from the cam.

Bill Koehler February 11th, 2008 09:58 PM

Best Buy To Push Blu-Ray Titles, Hardware
 
http://www.dailytech.com/Best+Buy+to...ticle10652.htm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1202...ml?mod=djemTEW
May need subscription to read.

A key paragraph from the WSJ article.

Toshiba has been running an extensive marketing campaign, including price cuts and steady advertising, to keep consumers interested in HD DVD, but didn't make promises about the future of its format after Monday's news about the retailers. "Given these developments, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players," a spokeswoman said. She called the decision by Best Buy "unfortunate."

Boyd Ostroff February 12th, 2008 09:05 AM

See also the following related thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114554

Bill Koehler February 12th, 2008 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff (Post 824947)
See also the following related thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114554

I have. I wasn't sure whether I should just add to that or start a new thread. If you wish to consolidate, please do!

Tim Polster February 13th, 2008 07:32 PM

Blu-Ray Specs and 1080p60
 
Hello,

I have reading a bit on Blu-Ray specs and the white papers from the Blu-Ray site state that Blu-ray does 1080p24 but does not mention 1080p60?

I know a lot of players mention 1080p60 output, but the more I think about it, how are these players outputting 1080p60?

Are they adding to the 1080i signal?

Not many, if any cameras I have heard of shoot at 1080p60 and film is at 24p, so does anybody know what I am missing?

Also, why is 1080p30 or 720p30 left out of the Blu-ray spec?

These are frame rates cameras can shoot in.

Thanks for your help!

Aaron Courtney February 13th, 2008 09:19 PM

Perhaps the players are referring to the HDMI spec since I believe 1920x1080p60 has been written into the spec since its inception. Of course, v1.3 has moved well beyond that to 1440 or 1600?, LOL. However, try to find an HDMI cable capable of passing 10.2 Gb/s today over any respectable distance. And this is one of the reasons why the entire custom A/V install business is going crazy trying to distribute HDMI at this point and why component is still the preferred distributed medium of choice. But the image constraint token is poised to doom component vid and piss off a lot of people who have spents 10's to 100's of thousands of $$$ on whole home distributed A/V systems.

Tim Polster February 14th, 2008 11:56 PM

Anybody else have any ideas?

Robert Lane February 17th, 2008 08:32 PM

Blu Ray wins the war
 
There are dozens of posts springing up all over, but the question of which HD-disc format will be our future is finally over.

From Best Buy, Netflix and even Toshiba (who is expected to announce their discontinuing the format) Blu Ray has emerged as the clear winner.

Here's just one of several posts on the web:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10491964

Pete Bauer February 18th, 2008 07:45 AM

See also this extended thread on the same topic:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114918

Dana Salsbury February 19th, 2008 11:31 AM

When can I burn Blu-Ray?!
 
Once again, us lowly wedding videographers are ignored by the powers that be. I need to burn to Blu-Ray yesterday. HD DVD was/is no problem. Is there any word??

Alastair Brown February 19th, 2008 05:09 PM

What do you edit with? Vegas can burn to Blu-Ray from the timeline (not for me though:-()

Victor Kellar February 19th, 2008 06:10 PM

Still no official Mac Blu Ray burning capability. It looks like Blu Ray has won the battle but I wouldn't expect anything for DVD SP for a while

If you have an Intel Mac you could run Bootcamp and install a product like Encore on the PC side and burn out to Toast. Not at all a cheap option but one available to you. If, like me, you are still humping along on an old G5, you are still in wait and see mode

Mike Barber February 19th, 2008 07:31 PM

HD DVD is dead; Blu-ray wins (it's official)
 
It was a no-brainer many of us saw coming miles away...

http://www.electronista.com/articles....drops.hd.dvd/

Konrad Czystowski February 19th, 2008 07:42 PM

I'm happy
BR will be better option for us to archive.

Boyd Ostroff February 19th, 2008 07:57 PM

We already have a huge thread on this topic, so please direct your comments here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=114918

Thanks!

Miles Martin February 27th, 2008 05:53 PM

Amount of video on Blu-Ray?
 
I did a search here and couldn't find the answer, so if this was answered before, I apologize.

I plan on burning our HDV wedding videos to Blu-Ray and was wondering how much time will a Blu-Ray disc hold?

25 gigs = ? minutes
50 gigs = ? minutes

Thanks.


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