Disney to go with Blu-Ray at DVinfo.net

Heath McKnight · December 9th, 2004, 03:26 PM

http://www.bizjournals.com/losangele...ml?jst=b_ln_hl

heath

Rob Lohman · December 10th, 2004, 04:14 AM

A lot of studios have pledged their support for a camp, see:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=35640

Glenn Gipson · May 20th, 2005, 07:44 AM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05...s_6125979.html

Radek Svoboda · May 21st, 2005, 08:23 AM

If you encode MPEG4 it will not take long and we'll have 1.8 inch high def DVDs, just like UMD or what you call discs in Playstation Portable.

Radek

Gints Klimanis · August 10th, 2005, 06:25 PM

Awww, check this out. The Blue-Ray disc folks want you to have an Internet
connection for media authenticity. In the case of authentification failure,
they'll lock up your player. Yeah, like, I'll buy one of those !

http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews...10_131820.html
Blu-ray makes unexpected, three-way DRM choice for high-def DVD

Scott M Fulton III

August 10, 2005 - 13:18 EST

Hollywood (CA) - In an announcement last night, the Blu-ray Disc Association, led by Sony, representing one of two competing high-definition DVD formats, stated it will simultaneously embrace digital watermarking, programmable cryptography, and a self-destruct code for Blu-ray disc players.

Peter Jefferson · August 10th, 2005, 08:15 PM

like everythign else, some clever guy in asia will reverse engineer it and break through the locking codes by hacking the bios of the unit to accept any disc thats thrown in it.. ...

im not too fussed, hell they did it with PS2, which was "unchippable" ... Not to mention the Xbox and even gamecube... whats to stop them doing it for any other unit?

these copy protection schemes DONT work.. when will they realise that? Instead, lower the prices and people WONT NEED to copy

Gints Klimanis · August 11th, 2005, 03:57 AM

>these copy protection schemes DONT work.. when will they realise that? >Instead, lower the prices and people WONT NEED to copy[/QUOTE]

I can't resist.

Ok. How low should the price be ? DVDs can be had for $10 at Walmart if you're willing to wait a few years. New releases cost $20, or $13 if you're willing to buy a used disk.

The price that people wnat to pay is only the cost of the media, although obviously, they're paying more than that right now. I've been through this process with ORIGINAL video material. There is no other source for this material, yet my friends want a copy.

Most of my computer-savvy friends think that all CD-Rs and DVD-Rs cost $0.20/each. When I tell them that the rest of the materials (plastic box, sheet of glossy photo paper, and ink to print on the disk and photo paper) cost me about $3/disk, they don't believe it. This doesn't even
involve the items used to burn and print the disk. DVD-burners and printers
don't last forever.

Great DVD burners are cheap, but a few years ago, I bought my first DVD burner for $400. No one understood why I paid that much money when CD burners were $60. A good photo printer costs about $400 and $100 for ink replacement.

Consumers do not value intellectual property, largely because it is cheap and easy to steal. Air is free. The radio and TV are "free". And, so should be music and movies, the masses think. The record and movie industries kinda dug themselves in a hole when they decided to reduce their own duplication costs.

The only reason a record
industry existed was that personal duplication was prohibitively expensive.
People are currently "paying" for DVDs. The cost is about $4 for a rental,
excluding the cost to transport the disk but including the selection experience.

Gints Klimanis · August 30th, 2005, 03:08 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews...29_102600.html

Piuoneer shows Blu-ray DVD burner for PC

By Akihabara News Japan

August 29, 2005 - 10:26 EST

Would you believe me if I tell you that there is a Pioneer DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, DVD-+DL and BR (Blu-ray) burner and that it's called BRD-101A? Well, you'd better, and here's the proof! A Korean site (that gets its news from a Chinese site) provides us pictures that this internal PC Blu-ray DVD burner really exists. Noteworthy is that this burner does not support CD's and DVD-RAM's.

Christopher Lefchik · August 30th, 2005, 07:56 PM

Not sure I want to know the price of that DVD recorder. Bleeding edge is never cheap. (That's why it's called bleeding edge. It bleeds your wallet. <g>)

Heath McKnight · December 30th, 2005, 05:35 PM

http://news.com.com/Pioneer+to+sell+...l?tag=nefd.pop

heath

Konrad Haskins · December 30th, 2005, 06:29 PM

No big suprise as there has to be a factory cranking out millions of BluRay drives for the Sony PS3 and I do mean millions. I'm just suprised by the HD-DVD comment as last I heard they did not even have a final HD-DVD spec.

Heath McKnight · January 2nd, 2006, 06:34 PM

http://news.com.com/Fiddling+with+fo...l?tag=nefd.top

heath

Konrad Haskins · January 2nd, 2006, 11:28 PM

Ok The article lost me with the $1,000 players. The Sony PS3 will play Blu-Ray with estimates of launch price ranging from $299 to $399 US.

Heath McKnight · January 2nd, 2006, 11:46 PM

And that's what will help things. I read in OXM (Official Xbox Magazine) the Xbox head in Japan wants the Xbox 360 to play back HD DVDs, but continue to use regular DVDs to put the HD games on...

heath

Boyd Ostroff · January 4th, 2006, 08:40 PM

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060104/law072.html?.v=38

Quote:

The first slate of BD titles encompasses a diverse mix of genres including The Fifth Element, in multichannel uncompressed audio Bram Stoker's Dracula, Desperado, For a Few Dollars More, The Guns of Navarone, Hitch, House of Flying Daggers, A Knight's Tale, Kung Fu Hustle, The Last Waltz, Legends of the Fall, Resident Evil Apocalypse, Robocop, Sense and Sensibility, Stealth, Species, SWAT and XXX. Black Hawk Down and The Bridge on the River Kwai will also be available on 50 GB, dual-layer Blu-ray Discs Summer 2006.

December 9th, 2004, 03:26 PM	#1
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December 10th, 2004, 04:14 AM	#2
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May 20th, 2005, 07:44 AM	#3
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	TDK brings Blu-Ray to 100 gigs http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05...s_6125979.html

August 10th, 2005, 06:25 PM	#5
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Your Blue-ray player may be locked ! Awww, check this out. The Blue-Ray disc folks want you to have an Internet connection for media authenticity. In the case of authentification failure, they'll lock up your player. Yeah, like, I'll buy one of those ! http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews...10_131820.html Blu-ray makes unexpected, three-way DRM choice for high-def DVD Scott M Fulton III August 10, 2005 - 13:18 EST Hollywood (CA) - In an announcement last night, the Blu-ray Disc Association, led by Sony, representing one of two competing high-definition DVD formats, stated it will simultaneously embrace digital watermarking, programmable cryptography, and a self-destruct code for Blu-ray disc players.

August 30th, 2005, 03:08 PM	#8
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Pioneer shows Blu-ray DVD burner for PC http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews...29_102600.html Piuoneer shows Blu-ray DVD burner for PC By Akihabara News Japan August 29, 2005 - 10:26 EST Would you believe me if I tell you that there is a Pioneer DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, DVD-+DL and BR (Blu-ray) burner and that it's called BRD-101A? Well, you'd better, and here's the proof! A Korean site (that gets its news from a Chinese site) provides us pictures that this internal PC Blu-ray DVD burner really exists. Noteworthy is that this burner does not support CD's and DVD-RAM's.

May 21st, 2005, 08:23 AM	#4
Radek Svoboda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 500	If you encode MPEG4 it will not take long and we'll have 1.8 inch high def DVDs, just like UMD or what you call discs in Playstation Portable. Radek

August 10th, 2005, 08:15 PM	#6
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	like everythign else, some clever guy in asia will reverse engineer it and break through the locking codes by hacking the bios of the unit to accept any disc thats thrown in it.. ... im not too fussed, hell they did it with PS2, which was "unchippable" ... Not to mention the Xbox and even gamecube... whats to stop them doing it for any other unit? these copy protection schemes DONT work.. when will they realise that? Instead, lower the prices and people WONT NEED to copy

August 11th, 2005, 03:57 AM	#7
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	>these copy protection schemes DONT work.. when will they realise that? >Instead, lower the prices and people WONT NEED to copy[/QUOTE] I can't resist. Ok. How low should the price be ? DVDs can be had for $10 at Walmart if you're willing to wait a few years. New releases cost $20, or $13 if you're willing to buy a used disk. The price that people wnat to pay is only the cost of the media, although obviously, they're paying more than that right now. I've been through this process with ORIGINAL video material. There is no other source for this material, yet my friends want a copy. Most of my computer-savvy friends think that all CD-Rs and DVD-Rs cost $0.20/each. When I tell them that the rest of the materials (plastic box, sheet of glossy photo paper, and ink to print on the disk and photo paper) cost me about $3/disk, they don't believe it. This doesn't even involve the items used to burn and print the disk. DVD-burners and printers don't last forever. Great DVD burners are cheap, but a few years ago, I bought my first DVD burner for $400. No one understood why I paid that much money when CD burners were $60. A good photo printer costs about $400 and $100 for ink replacement. Consumers do not value intellectual property, largely because it is cheap and easy to steal. Air is free. The radio and TV are "free". And, so should be music and movies, the masses think. The record and movie industries kinda dug themselves in a hole when they decided to reduce their own duplication costs. The only reason a record industry existed was that personal duplication was prohibitively expensive. People are currently "paying" for DVDs. The cost is about $4 for a rental, excluding the cost to transport the disk but including the selection experience.

August 30th, 2005, 07:56 PM	#9
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Not sure I want to know the price of that DVD recorder. Bleeding edge is never cheap. (That's why it's called bleeding edge. It bleeds your wallet. <g>) Last edited by Christopher Lefchik; August 31st, 2005 at 07:47 AM.

December 30th, 2005, 05:35 PM	#10
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Pioneer to sell Blu-Ray burner? http://news.com.com/Pioneer+to+sell+...l?tag=nefd.pop heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

December 30th, 2005, 06:29 PM	#11
Konrad Haskins Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 148	No big suprise as there has to be a factory cranking out millions of BluRay drives for the Sony PS3 and I do mean millions. I'm just suprised by the HD-DVD comment as last I heard they did not even have a final HD-DVD spec.

January 2nd, 2006, 06:34 PM	#12
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Still more on the Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD war http://news.com.com/Fiddling+with+fo...l?tag=nefd.top heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 2nd, 2006, 11:28 PM	#13
Konrad Haskins Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 148	Ok The article lost me with the $1,000 players. The Sony PS3 will play Blu-Ray with estimates of launch price ranging from $299 to $399 US.

January 2nd, 2006, 11:46 PM	#14
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	And that's what will help things. I read in OXM (Official Xbox Magazine) the Xbox head in Japan wants the Xbox 360 to play back HD DVDs, but continue to use regular DVDs to put the HD games on... heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

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