HV20 questions re audio at DVinfo.net

Elmer Lang · April 5th, 2007, 02:10 PM

I'm considering a purchase of the HV20 and I was curious if there is significant noise picked up by the on-board mic from the motor or when zooming? Is it louder than the HV10? Will an external mic pick it up?

Will most mics fit in the mount?

Will a mic with xlr adaptor be unbalanced or have added noise?

best,
elmer

Thomas Emmerich · April 5th, 2007, 09:39 PM

I can hear the noise picked up by the built-in mic. The only thing I can compare to is a Panasonic PV-GS250. The HV20 is louder. However, my experience with the HV20 is limited to about 20 minutes of recording so far.

John Godden · April 5th, 2007, 10:03 PM

"Internal" mikes really suffer on small camcorders. If you want good audio you must use an 'external' mike.

JohnG

Elmer Lang · April 5th, 2007, 10:27 PM

Yes, external mic is the way to go, but I worry even that will pick up motor noise.

Dennis Vogel · April 6th, 2007, 08:54 PM

For the best results get your external mic off the cam and close to your subject. The distance from a person's mouth to a mic for the best audio is measured in inches, not feet. This is true for SD, HD and whatever else comes along.

Good luck.

Dennis

Peter J Alessandria · April 7th, 2007, 08:56 AM

Anyone have any ideas on which Beachtek adapter would work best with the HV20? http://www.beachtek.com/

Roland Gatto · April 7th, 2007, 09:26 AM

Peter,

Harry at Beachtek said the following:

"We are working with Canon in the US find an appropriate adapter for this
model. It looks like our DXA-2s Compact Adapter will fit this camera the
best."

Harry is really helpful and responds to emails instantly! His email address is beachtek@bellnet.ca

Peter J Alessandria · April 7th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland Gatto

Peter,

Harry at Beachtek said the following:

"We are working with Canon in the US find an appropriate adapter for this
model. It looks like our DXA-2s Compact Adapter will fit this camera the
best."

Harry is really helpful and responds to emails instantly! His email address is beachtek@bellnet.ca

Actually got two emails from Harry today (Sat.) He recommends the DXA-2s if you don't need phantom power or

"If you require phantom power, then our DXA-6 adapter would be ideal for the HV20. The DXA-FX adapter is only designed to work with the Sony FX1 or FX7 camcorders." [from Harry's email]

(I asked about an adapter with mic preamps)

Roger Garcia · April 8th, 2007, 05:18 PM

I'm thinking of using my Sennheiser MKE 300 mic on the HV 20. Has anyone tried this combo? Using the MKE 300 on my Sony HVR A1U produced a lot of vibration noise etc and I wonder if it's the same with HV 20?

Thanks.

Elmer Lang · April 8th, 2007, 05:22 PM

I tried the MKE 300 on an HV20 and it was picking up motor noise and fast zooms.

Roger Garcia · April 8th, 2007, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmer Lang

I tried the MKE 300 on an HV20 and it was picking up motor noise and fast zooms.

Thanks- that's a pity. Looks like I'll have to go with a proper mount and my shotgun then : )

Elmer Lang · April 8th, 2007, 08:54 PM

Hey Roger, if I was you I'd still try the MKE 300 since you have one and all, your experience might be different than mine! And if it was, you could post your experience.

Chris Barcellos · April 8th, 2007, 09:26 PM

Though I haven't tried it yet, this is what the Beachtech DXA-4 looks like,mounted to the HV20. See photo attached.

Elmer Lang · April 8th, 2007, 09:36 PM

Hey, Chris, lookin' good!

Will that setup limit you to handheld, maybe it's the angle, but I don't see how you could put it on a tripod? Either way, I look forward to your comments, I've been enjoying your 'Sony User Tries Canon HV20' thread each step of the way!!

best,
elmer

Chris Barcellos · April 8th, 2007, 09:51 PM

Elmer:

The adapters that are made to bolt on to the bottom of a camera, have a have the same thread underneath that is on your camera. See the picture attached. This week sometime I plan to try the rig with my Sennheiser ME66 attached. Biggest issue I see is the potential for mic, due to length, protruding to far into picture frame...

April 5th, 2007, 02:10 PM	#1
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	HV20 questions re audio I'm considering a purchase of the HV20 and I was curious if there is significant noise picked up by the on-board mic from the motor or when zooming? Is it louder than the HV10? Will an external mic pick it up? Will most mics fit in the mount? Will a mic with xlr adaptor be unbalanced or have added noise? best, elmer

April 5th, 2007, 09:39 PM	#2
Thomas Emmerich Tourist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 2	HV20 questions re audio I can hear the noise picked up by the built-in mic. The only thing I can compare to is a Panasonic PV-GS250. The HV20 is louder. However, my experience with the HV20 is limited to about 20 minutes of recording so far.

April 5th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#3
John Godden Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 172	"Internal" mikes really suffer on small camcorders. If you want good audio you must use an 'external' mike. JohnG __________________ Nikon DSLR's finally a small 60P camcorder (Sanyo VPC-FH1)

April 8th, 2007, 05:18 PM	#9
Roger Garcia Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 40	HV Questions re audio I'm thinking of using my Sennheiser MKE 300 mic on the HV 20. Has anyone tried this combo? Using the MKE 300 on my Sony HVR A1U produced a lot of vibration noise etc and I wonder if it's the same with HV 20? Thanks.

April 8th, 2007, 09:26 PM	#13
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Though I haven't tried it yet, this is what the Beachtech DXA-4 looks like,mounted to the HV20. See photo attached. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

April 5th, 2007, 10:27 PM	#4
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	Yes, external mic is the way to go, but I worry even that will pick up motor noise.

April 6th, 2007, 08:54 PM	#5
Dennis Vogel Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 409	For the best results get your external mic off the cam and close to your subject. The distance from a person's mouth to a mic for the best audio is measured in inches, not feet. This is true for SD, HD and whatever else comes along. Good luck. Dennis

April 7th, 2007, 08:56 AM	#6
Peter J Alessandria Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 293	Anyone have any ideas on which Beachtek adapter would work best with the HV20? http://www.beachtek.com/

April 7th, 2007, 09:26 AM	#7
Roland Gatto Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dallas Posts: 41	Peter, Harry at Beachtek said the following: "We are working with Canon in the US find an appropriate adapter for this model. It looks like our DXA-2s Compact Adapter will fit this camera the best." Harry is really helpful and responds to emails instantly! His email address is beachtek@bellnet.ca

April 8th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#10
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	I tried the MKE 300 on an HV20 and it was picking up motor noise and fast zooms.

April 8th, 2007, 08:54 PM	#12
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	Hey Roger, if I was you I'd still try the MKE 300 since you have one and all, your experience might be different than mine! And if it was, you could post your experience.

April 8th, 2007, 09:36 PM	#14
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	Hey, Chris, lookin' good! Will that setup limit you to handheld, maybe it's the angle, but I don't see how you could put it on a tripod? Either way, I look forward to your comments, I've been enjoying your 'Sony User Tries Canon HV20' thread each step of the way!! best, elmer

April 8th, 2007, 09:51 PM	#15
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Elmer: The adapters that are made to bolt on to the bottom of a camera, have a have the same thread underneath that is on your camera. See the picture attached. This week sometime I plan to try the rig with my Sennheiser ME66 attached. Biggest issue I see is the potential for mic, due to length, protruding to far into picture frame... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Chris J. Barcellos