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Larry Secrest · November 17th, 2013, 11:17 AM

I love my XH-A1, the more I use it the more I love it.
I'm thinking about eventually buying a pocket BMCC for narrative but for small docs nothing beats the A1.

I'd like to get rid of the tape, for many reasons.
I was wondering if somebody could tell me what they think of the options below. I'm not trying to capture to higher resolution, just bypassing the tape.

DN-60 Field Recorder

Firestore FS H200

Blackmagic Design HyperDeck Shuttle 2

Can anybody recommend one?
Thanks
Larry

Noa Put · November 17th, 2013, 12:47 PM

I have had a sony hvr-dr60 for a few years with my xh-a1, great piece of hardware and worked without a issue on the canon. When I was recording to it I ran a tape as back up, I could see 2 dots on the viewfinder indicating it was recording to both, I also could record to the dr60 only without having to insert any tape, it almost looked the recorder was made for the canon.

Erick Munari · November 17th, 2013, 02:02 PM

Does it attach it straight to the A1 through Firewire? Does it bypass the internal HDV codec? I'm about to sell the A1, but maybe not?

Larry Secrest · November 17th, 2013, 04:11 PM

The sony hvr-dr60 is no longer available

Peter Adler · November 18th, 2013, 10:33 AM

I am sure a used one will work as well, although I find this price on Amazon a bit steep:

Amazon.com: Sony HVR-DR60 60GB Hard Disk Recorder for Compatible Sony HDV and DVCam Camcorders: Camera & Photo

Good luck and keep us posted!

All the best,

Peter

Peter Adler · November 18th, 2013, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erick Munari

Does it attach it straight to the A1 through Firewire? Does it bypass the internal HDV codec? I'm about to sell the A1, but maybe not?

Erick,

The DN-60 and the Firestore will connect to the Firewire connector and record HDV video from the camera

To use the Blackmagic HyperDeck Shuttle 2, you'll need a converter.

I like the Blackmagic solution but I admit it is a fairly big and heavy box to carry around.

Peter

Noa Put · November 18th, 2013, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erick Munari

Does it attach it straight to the A1 through Firewire? Does it bypass the internal HDV codec? I'm about to sell the A1, but maybe not?

Think the possibilities fo finding a used hvr-dr60 are small, the recorder would store the same footage as you would find back on tape, so nothing uncompressed or other format, it connected through the firewire connection of the camera.

Peter Adler · November 18th, 2013, 11:40 AM

The Amazon link I posted above is exactly that: a used hvr-dr60. If you are willing to pay the price, $800, is another story...

Noa Put · November 18th, 2013, 11:55 AM

That's way overpriced, 400 dollar would be the max I would pay for this.

Roger Van Duyn · November 18th, 2013, 12:54 PM

I've been using a couple of DN-60s with my Canon XH-A1 and XH-A1S. So far, they've worked great with both cameras. In fact, I no longer bother with tape at all.

One caveat, I did have problems with a CF card not on the approved list that I picked up at the local camera shop. I have several SanDisk Extreme 32 GB cards that have all worked flawlessly. Plus, each unit came with an included 16GB SanDisk CF Card.

Chris Medico · November 18th, 2013, 01:05 PM

I have a full functional hvr-dr60 that I would part with.

Mark Watson · November 19th, 2013, 12:21 AM

Larry,

I have the Focus Enhancements FS-CF recorder. It works great with my HV-30 and XL-H1A. I got it to future proof my HDV cameras due to lack of firewire ports on new laptops. It's a quality piece of hardware with lots of extra functions. It can start automatically when you press record on the camera. Whatever you decide on, I'd recommend you get something that has this ability.

Mark Watson

Edit: I have the FS-CF Pro model.

Noa Put · November 19th, 2013, 02:16 AM

The hvr-dr60 could also be started and stopped with the camera record button, it's biggest disadvantage was it's first start-up time which was about 12 seconds before you where able to record but it's biggest advantage was that once it was rolling (starting and stopping to record was without delay then) you could go on for hours on a single big Sony battery, battery life was exceptional.

Larry Secrest · November 19th, 2013, 07:37 AM

Thanks, everybody.
From what I can understand now, the Black Magic device needs several adapter. It's cheaper upfront, but I'm not sure it's the best solution.
I'm leaning in favor of either the DN-60s, or the VITEC FS-H200 Pro Portable Compact Flash DTE Recorder.
I've just discover that Canon does have a solution called: Canon FS-CF Pro Portable Compact Flash DTE Recorder.

Erick Munari · November 26th, 2013, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Medico

I have a full functional hvr-dr60 that I would part with.

Hi Chris, may I ask, how much?

November 17th, 2013, 11:17 AM	#1
Larry Secrest Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 404	Which SSD capture I love my XH-A1, the more I use it the more I love it. I'm thinking about eventually buying a pocket BMCC for narrative but for small docs nothing beats the A1. I'd like to get rid of the tape, for many reasons. I was wondering if somebody could tell me what they think of the options below. I'm not trying to capture to higher resolution, just bypassing the tape. DN-60 Field Recorder Firestore FS H200 Blackmagic Design HyperDeck Shuttle 2 Can anybody recommend one? Thanks Larry

November 17th, 2013, 12:47 PM	#2
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: Which SSD capture I have had a sony hvr-dr60 for a few years with my xh-a1, great piece of hardware and worked without a issue on the canon. When I was recording to it I ran a tape as back up, I could see 2 dots on the viewfinder indicating it was recording to both, I also could record to the dr60 only without having to insert any tape, it almost looked the recorder was made for the canon.

November 17th, 2013, 02:02 PM	#3
Erick Munari Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 161	Re: Which SSD capture Does it attach it straight to the A1 through Firewire? Does it bypass the internal HDV codec? I'm about to sell the A1, but maybe not?

November 17th, 2013, 04:11 PM	#4
Larry Secrest Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 404	Re: Which SSD capture The sony hvr-dr60 is no longer available

November 18th, 2013, 10:33 AM	#5
Peter Adler Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 34	Re: Which SSD capture I am sure a used one will work as well, although I find this price on Amazon a bit steep: Amazon.com: Sony HVR-DR60 60GB Hard Disk Recorder for Compatible Sony HDV and DVCam Camcorders: Camera & Photo Good luck and keep us posted! All the best, Peter

November 18th, 2013, 11:40 AM	#8
Peter Adler Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 34	Re: Which SSD capture The Amazon link I posted above is exactly that: a used hvr-dr60. If you are willing to pay the price, $800, is another story...

November 18th, 2013, 11:55 AM	#9
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: Which SSD capture That's way overpriced, 400 dollar would be the max I would pay for this.

November 18th, 2013, 12:54 PM	#10
Roger Van Duyn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lakeland Florida Posts: 690	Re: Which SSD capture I've been using a couple of DN-60s with my Canon XH-A1 and XH-A1S. So far, they've worked great with both cameras. In fact, I no longer bother with tape at all. One caveat, I did have problems with a CF card not on the approved list that I picked up at the local camera shop. I have several SanDisk Extreme 32 GB cards that have all worked flawlessly. Plus, each unit came with an included 16GB SanDisk CF Card. __________________ Roger My YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAp...2AHr_pHFID5LDA

November 18th, 2013, 01:05 PM	#11
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Which SSD capture I have a full functional hvr-dr60 that I would part with. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

November 19th, 2013, 12:21 AM	#12
Mark Watson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Whidbey Island Posts: 873	Re: Which SSD capture Larry, I have the Focus Enhancements FS-CF recorder. It works great with my HV-30 and XL-H1A. I got it to future proof my HDV cameras due to lack of firewire ports on new laptops. It's a quality piece of hardware with lots of extra functions. It can start automatically when you press record on the camera. Whatever you decide on, I'd recommend you get something that has this ability. Mark Watson Edit: I have the FS-CF Pro model.

November 19th, 2013, 02:16 AM	#13
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: Which SSD capture The hvr-dr60 could also be started and stopped with the camera record button, it's biggest disadvantage was it's first start-up time which was about 12 seconds before you where able to record but it's biggest advantage was that once it was rolling (starting and stopping to record was without delay then) you could go on for hours on a single big Sony battery, battery life was exceptional.

November 19th, 2013, 07:37 AM	#14
Larry Secrest Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 404	Re: Which SSD capture Thanks, everybody. From what I can understand now, the Black Magic device needs several adapter. It's cheaper upfront, but I'm not sure it's the best solution. I'm leaning in favor of either the DN-60s, or the VITEC FS-H200 Pro Portable Compact Flash DTE Recorder. I've just discover that Canon does have a solution called: Canon FS-CF Pro Portable Compact Flash DTE Recorder.