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Josh Chesarek · February 3rd, 2007, 11:30 AM

Shot some local High School soccer with my A1 and thought I would share the footage with you. Filmed in 60i and compressed with Windows media 9 to 720 30FPS and de-interlaced. It was raining out the whole time so what appears to be a little noise in some of the black areas is actually rain which is much clearer in the uncompressed version.

http://www.phenious.com/Soccer-HD-720.wmv (55MB)

Deke Ryland · February 3rd, 2007, 01:00 PM

I actually think that is quite impressive with the amount of fast pans and action in the scenes, considering HDV and compression. Might I ask what editor software you use?

And also, do you think it came out so well because you shot in 60i as opposed to say 30F? Would there have been a big difference in quality between 60i and 30F? Thanks!

Josh Chesarek · February 3rd, 2007, 01:50 PM

I think the 60i is better for sports but I personally haven't tried 30F for them so I cant give you a good answer. Next time I goto an event where I can tool around Ill try 30F and post that as well. I use Adobe Premiere 2.0 for my video needs :)

Deke Ryland · February 3rd, 2007, 03:05 PM

Hey Josh, thanks for the response... I too use Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and really like it? Do you edit the mpeg file natively or do you use Cineform Aspect HD? Right now I do native editing and thus far, it works great, however I am still trying to figure out a good workflow so I can use dynamic link w/ AE quickly.

Your PP2.0 file that is captured is .mpeg, right? Not the .m2t file extension.

Josh Chesarek · February 3rd, 2007, 03:39 PM

I use the native Adobe capture as well and my videos are in .mpeg format.

Deke Ryland · February 3rd, 2007, 03:48 PM

Boy thanks for the info Josh... always nice to talk to someone who has a very similar setup. Have you done any native mpeg work in After Effects 7? From the few tests I have run thus far, AE7 bogs down substantially with my mpeg files, eventhough I am running the new QX6700 quad-core intel with 4GB ram and a dedicated 10k scratch drive. Have you noticed the same?

Josh Chesarek · February 3rd, 2007, 04:02 PM

No I haven't really tried to do a whole lot with After Effects with HDV but I remember it was a beast with DV so I imagine its even worse with HDV. Im rendering out some sample video of the swim meet I was just at (no 30F :() Might post that, If so I might need Chris to do a thread merge into a singular Sports Video Sample Thread or something :-p

Benji Wade · February 5th, 2007, 08:14 PM

Great footage!

Rubbish football...(where's the marking? they don't teach that in high school?)

:)

Bogdan Tyburczy · February 8th, 2007, 10:43 AM

Quality is very good - thanks for posting Josh.

The game? I have no problem with that. The third goal was fantastic and thanks to rain we could see that belly slide. Nice footage, 5 goals including penalty, who can complain? :)

Josh Chesarek · February 8th, 2007, 06:55 PM

If you like soccer you should poke around here: http://phenious.com/videos/rollins/mens :) (all of that was shot on my GL2 though)

Dave Stern · February 8th, 2007, 07:04 PM

what presets were you using? looks nice

Josh Chesarek · February 8th, 2007, 07:11 PM

I used the Premiere 2.0 WM9 HDTV 720 5.1 preset and drop the audio down to 2 chan. nothing fancy.

Dave Stern · February 8th, 2007, 09:13 PM

sorry - should have been more clear.. I was really asking about the camera, e.g. noise reduction, gamma, etc.

Josh Chesarek · February 8th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Ahh, I haven't even really gotten into all the advanced features that this camera offers yet. (I still have to learn what each one actually does to the picture) So everything is @ the factory defaults. While shooting I was using Manual Mode with Gain @ +3db and a low fstop

February 3rd, 2007, 11:30 AM	#1
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Night Soccer Game Video Shot some local High School soccer with my A1 and thought I would share the footage with you. Filmed in 60i and compressed with Windows media 9 to 720 30FPS and de-interlaced. It was raining out the whole time so what appears to be a little noise in some of the black areas is actually rain which is much clearer in the uncompressed version. http://www.phenious.com/Soccer-HD-720.wmv (55MB) __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

February 3rd, 2007, 01:50 PM	#3
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	I think the 60i is better for sports but I personally haven't tried 30F for them so I cant give you a good answer. Next time I goto an event where I can tool around Ill try 30F and post that as well. I use Adobe Premiere 2.0 for my video needs :) __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

February 3rd, 2007, 03:39 PM	#5
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	I use the native Adobe capture as well and my videos are in .mpeg format. __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

February 3rd, 2007, 04:02 PM	#7
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	No I haven't really tried to do a whole lot with After Effects with HDV but I remember it was a beast with DV so I imagine its even worse with HDV. Im rendering out some sample video of the swim meet I was just at (no 30F :() Might post that, If so I might need Chris to do a thread merge into a singular Sports Video Sample Thread or something :-p __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

February 8th, 2007, 06:55 PM	#10
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	If you like soccer you should poke around here: http://phenious.com/videos/rollins/mens :) (all of that was shot on my GL2 though) __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

February 3rd, 2007, 01:00 PM	#2
Deke Ryland Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 213	I actually think that is quite impressive with the amount of fast pans and action in the scenes, considering HDV and compression. Might I ask what editor software you use? And also, do you think it came out so well because you shot in 60i as opposed to say 30F? Would there have been a big difference in quality between 60i and 30F? Thanks!

February 3rd, 2007, 03:05 PM	#4
Deke Ryland Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 213	Hey Josh, thanks for the response... I too use Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and really like it? Do you edit the mpeg file natively or do you use Cineform Aspect HD? Right now I do native editing and thus far, it works great, however I am still trying to figure out a good workflow so I can use dynamic link w/ AE quickly. Your PP2.0 file that is captured is .mpeg, right? Not the .m2t file extension.

February 3rd, 2007, 03:48 PM	#6
Deke Ryland Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 213	Boy thanks for the info Josh... always nice to talk to someone who has a very similar setup. Have you done any native mpeg work in After Effects 7? From the few tests I have run thus far, AE7 bogs down substantially with my mpeg files, eventhough I am running the new QX6700 quad-core intel with 4GB ram and a dedicated 10k scratch drive. Have you noticed the same?

February 5th, 2007, 08:14 PM	#8
Benji Wade Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 36	Great footage! Rubbish football...(where's the marking? they don't teach that in high school?) :)

February 8th, 2007, 10:43 AM	#9
Bogdan Tyburczy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 161	Quality is very good - thanks for posting Josh. The game? I have no problem with that. The third goal was fantastic and thanks to rain we could see that belly slide. Nice footage, 5 goals including penalty, who can complain? :)

February 8th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#11
Dave Stern Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 391	what presets were you using? looks nice

February 8th, 2007, 07:11 PM	#12
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	I used the Premiere 2.0 WM9 HDTV 720 5.1 preset and drop the audio down to 2 chan. nothing fancy. __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

February 8th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#13
Dave Stern Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 391	sorry - should have been more clear.. I was really asking about the camera, e.g. noise reduction, gamma, etc.

February 8th, 2007, 10:52 PM	#14
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Ahh, I haven't even really gotten into all the advanced features that this camera offers yet. (I still have to learn what each one actually does to the picture) So everything is @ the factory defaults. While shooting I was using Manual Mode with Gain @ +3db and a low fstop __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second