XL1 / XL1S various posts

February 9th, 2003, 02:59 PM

I am about to purchase a XL1s. My question is what is the benefit of purchasing it locally, say from a Wolf Camera shop vs purchasing it over the phone from say B&H Photo. Besides the $500 price difference wouldn't they both have to send it back to Canon to get it repaired.

Vic Owen · February 9th, 2003, 04:05 PM

Initially, if the camera didn't work right out of the box, you could easily exchange it. Beyond that, though, there is little (or no) advantage. Warranty & routine maintenance work needs to done by Canon.

B&H is one of the "Gold Standards" for service & dependability. However, ZGC is one of this forum's sponsors, and everyone that deals with them raves. Most are repeat customers. Don't let the bottom line be your only criterion. Read the threads about ZGC in the Community Marketplace section on this board.

Nathan Gifford · February 9th, 2003, 09:09 PM

Also depends on the local outlet too. If your Wolf outlet is like ours, it will not be of much help beyond warranty problems.

ZGC gets its money by being a real videographer outlet.

Scott Moore · February 10th, 2003, 09:17 AM

I've had a GL1 for a couple of years - just added an XL1 to my arsenal, and I'm still learning my way around the 'X'.

On my GL1, when in camera mode, there is a function in the menu called 'C.Sharpness' that allows you to turn the sharpness all the way up or all the way down (that, coupled with Frame Mode makes for a nice cinematic look)

Does any such menu option exist somewhere on the XL1 as well?

Ken Tanaka · February 10th, 2003, 11:00 AM

Scott,
No, the XL1 does not feature a Sharpness adustment. That was a feature added with the XL1s.

Ben Vallack · February 10th, 2003, 12:42 PM

I have two sony micorphones for recording ambient location sound. However they are both mono and I wish to combine to signal to make a stereo signal. This will enable me to place the two mics wide apart so I can obtain a cool ambiant sound. My question is where can I get an adaptor that combines two mono signals and creates a stereo signal, placing one mono signal in each of the stereo channels. Also what would such a device be called. Hope someone can help!

Barry Goyette · February 10th, 2003, 01:08 PM

You might want to try www.equipmentemporium.com. They manufacture and sell a variety of connectors, and can probably make what you want, if they don't have it already...they also have a wealth of info on their site regarding sound for video. Nice guys, quality and service are exceptional, and their prices are reasonable.

Barry

Philip Rebentisch · February 10th, 2003, 02:25 PM

Hey All,

No matter what NLE system I use, I've noticed that when capturing footage via Firewire from my Xl-1, there are always black bars on the left and right frame. They are only seen on RGB monitors, NTSC output is fine.

They are 2 pixels wide and I've always removed them in Cleaner by cropping, but has anyone else noticed this?

Philip

Scott Moore · February 10th, 2003, 02:38 PM

....the logical step to reproduce this look would simply be
to let the focus ring be just slightly out of focus ?
(In your opinion?)

Jeff Donald · February 10th, 2003, 04:17 PM

This issue of black bars has been seen before and noted by many. Depending on what your needs and output medium is, it may or may not, be an issue for you.

Philip Rebentisch · February 10th, 2003, 05:21 PM

Jeff,

I first did a search for black bars and saw most of the threads were for the black bars at the bottom of the frame. I should have checked some of the other pages which refer to the vertical lines I'm experiencing.

Using Cleaner, I crop off the the pixels without fear, because 90 % of my projects are for 320 X 240 for streaming and CD delivery.

Up til now it's never been an issue. But now that I'm moving into the DVD space as well, there could be a JVC 5000u in my future.

Tony Morrison · February 12th, 2003, 05:30 PM

I live in Australia and have a friend who is passing through Hong Kong in a week. I know if I buy a Canon XL1s there I can save a lot of money. BUT!!! I know that there are many "shonky" camera dealers there. Can anyone give me info on where to buy my camera in Hong Kong, I need to find someone I can trust..

Thanking you in advance

Tony Morrison

Jesse Bradley · February 12th, 2003, 07:42 PM

Does anyone know the Canon XL1 Owners Club Hotline Number?
I searched for it everywhere and no luck. Thanks!

Chris Hurd · February 12th, 2003, 08:09 PM

They keep this number guarded so that "only Club members may call," but if you dial 1-800-OK-CANON and cycle through the automated menu, you'll eventually drill down far enough to reach a live human being who will assist you in getting that phone number. Hope this helps,

Matt Betea · February 14th, 2003, 10:15 PM

hello,
for anyone using one of these, how do you like it? i did a search and there was only a couple threads just mentioning it in passing more or less. for a 7" lcd they seem pretty darn cheap (price-wise). thank you for any personal experiences with this display.

matt

February 9th, 2003, 02:59 PM	#691
Rick Combs Posts: n/a	xl1s purchase Local Retail vs Long Distance I am about to purchase a XL1s. My question is what is the benefit of purchasing it locally, say from a Wolf Camera shop vs purchasing it over the phone from say B&H Photo. Besides the $500 price difference wouldn't they both have to send it back to Canon to get it repaired.

February 9th, 2003, 04:05 PM	#692
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	Initially, if the camera didn't work right out of the box, you could easily exchange it. Beyond that, though, there is little (or no) advantage. Warranty & routine maintenance work needs to done by Canon. B&H is one of the "Gold Standards" for service & dependability. However, ZGC is one of this forum's sponsors, and everyone that deals with them raves. Most are repeat customers. Don't let the bottom line be your only criterion. Read the threads about ZGC in the Community Marketplace section on this board. __________________ -- Vic Owen --

February 9th, 2003, 09:09 PM	#693
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	Also depends on the local outlet too. If your Wolf outlet is like ours, it will not be of much help beyond warranty problems. ZGC gets its money by being a real videographer outlet. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

February 10th, 2003, 09:17 AM	#694
Scott Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 48	C.Sharpness on XL1? I've had a GL1 for a couple of years - just added an XL1 to my arsenal, and I'm still learning my way around the 'X'. On my GL1, when in camera mode, there is a function in the menu called 'C.Sharpness' that allows you to turn the sharpness all the way up or all the way down (that, coupled with Frame Mode makes for a nice cinematic look) Does any such menu option exist somewhere on the XL1 as well?

February 10th, 2003, 11:00 AM	#695
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Scott, No, the XL1 does not feature a Sharpness adustment. That was a feature added with the XL1s. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 10th, 2003, 12:42 PM	#696
Ben Vallack New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 18	Two mono 3.5mm jacks to one stereo 3.5mm jack adaptor? I have two sony micorphones for recording ambient location sound. However they are both mono and I wish to combine to signal to make a stereo signal. This will enable me to place the two mics wide apart so I can obtain a cool ambiant sound. My question is where can I get an adaptor that combines two mono signals and creates a stereo signal, placing one mono signal in each of the stereo channels. Also what would such a device be called. Hope someone can help! __________________ Ben Vallack Filmmaking - Web Design

February 10th, 2003, 01:08 PM	#697
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	You might want to try www.equipmentemporium.com. They manufacture and sell a variety of connectors, and can probably make what you want, if they don't have it already...they also have a wealth of info on their site regarding sound for video. Nice guys, quality and service are exceptional, and their prices are reasonable. Barry

February 10th, 2003, 02:25 PM	#698
Philip Rebentisch Tourist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3	capturing footage / cropping Hey All, No matter what NLE system I use, I've noticed that when capturing footage via Firewire from my Xl-1, there are always black bars on the left and right frame. They are only seen on RGB monitors, NTSC output is fine. They are 2 pixels wide and I've always removed them in Cleaner by cropping, but has anyone else noticed this? Philip

February 10th, 2003, 02:38 PM	#699
Scott Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 48	So in light of this..... ....the logical step to reproduce this look would simply be to let the focus ring be just slightly out of focus ? (In your opinion?)

February 10th, 2003, 04:17 PM	#700
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	This issue of black bars has been seen before and noted by many. Depending on what your needs and output medium is, it may or may not, be an issue for you. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 10th, 2003, 05:21 PM	#701
Philip Rebentisch Tourist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3	you're right Jeff, I first did a search for black bars and saw most of the threads were for the black bars at the bottom of the frame. I should have checked some of the other pages which refer to the vertical lines I'm experiencing. Using Cleaner, I crop off the the pixels without fear, because 90 % of my projects are for 320 X 240 for streaming and CD delivery. Up til now it's never been an issue. But now that I'm moving into the DVD space as well, there could be a JVC 5000u in my future.

February 12th, 2003, 05:30 PM	#702
Tony Morrison Tourist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 3	Where to buy a Pal XL1s in Hong Kong I live in Australia and have a friend who is passing through Hong Kong in a week. I know if I buy a Canon XL1s there I can save a lot of money. BUT!!! I know that there are many "shonky" camera dealers there. Can anyone give me info on where to buy my camera in Hong Kong, I need to find someone I can trust.. Thanking you in advance Tony Morrison __________________ Tony

February 12th, 2003, 07:42 PM	#703
Jesse Bradley New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 8	XL1 Owners Club Phone Number Does anyone know the Canon XL1 Owners Club Hotline Number? I searched for it everywhere and no luck. Thanks! __________________ "What Is Understood Need Not Be Discussed"

February 12th, 2003, 08:09 PM	#704
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	They keep this number guarded so that "only Club members may call," but if you dial 1-800-OK-CANON and cycle through the automated menu, you'll eventually drill down far enough to reach a live human being who will assist you in getting that phone number. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 14th, 2003, 10:15 PM	#705
Matt Betea Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: detroit, mi Posts: 187	starvision 7" hello, for anyone using one of these, how do you like it? i did a search and there was only a couple threads just mentioning it in passing more or less. for a 7" lcd they seem pretty darn cheap (price-wise). thank you for any personal experiences with this display. matt