Prospect HD 4.0 (Windows) - ISSUES

Michael Panfeld · May 12th, 2009, 12:55 PM

OK, so late last night I remembered that there was an Adobe update in December (4.01). I updated the CS4 suite this AM and it made a night and day difference. The timeline opened up just fine. The rendered parts were not squished anymore. The preview and program windows scrubbed the clips. Audio playback was just fine.

I attempted to export to Encore and it didn't blow up! I left for work as it was rendering. I noted that the 4 cores were running in the 80-90% range. Hopefully when I get back, it will be done. I say that because the estimated time was over 2 hours and getting larger (In CS3, this only took about 27 minutes using the same settings - 2 pass VBR and the highest quality and bit rates).

One annoying thing was that it still is generating the peak files each time a project is opened.

Gary Brun · May 12th, 2009, 01:56 PM

Yes I have the problems with peak files.
All my adobe software and cineform software are the latest builds.
I'm sure when adobe release their update sometime this month then cineform can fix the realtime engine.

As my previous posts I am finding the latest cineform alot more stable.

Gil Reitsma · May 13th, 2009, 06:22 PM

Went back to PPCS3 with PHD 4, but the clips won't import.

Converted mt2 files in HDlink but will not import.

Removed PHD 4 and reinstalled PHD 3 and the same clips imported ok.

Puzzelling as I was hoping to use First Light in CS3 as David mention previously I think that this was the workflow they are concentrating on. Making PHD 4 and First Light to work with PPCS3

Gil

David Newman · May 13th, 2009, 09:17 PM

Gil,

CS3 is working fine with the new betas. You likely have an install issue with components going in the wrong place. Premiere uses registery setting to inform plug-ins where to install, it is easily messed up. You can manual setup the install path at these registry locaitons (showing there typical defaults for CS3.)

For 64-bit OSes
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Adobe\Premiere Pro\CurrentVersion]
"Plug-InsDir"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Common\\Plug-ins\\CS3\\MediaCore"

For 32-bit OSes
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Adobe\Premiere Pro\CurrentVersion]
"Plug-InsDir"="C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Common\\Plug-ins\\CS3\\MediaCore"

Gil Reitsma · May 14th, 2009, 01:44 AM

Thanks David

I removed PHD3 and installed PHD4 as per your instructions

Converted m2t file to avi with HDlink. But still will not import into timeline in CS3

I will give up until official release

Gil

Bruce Gruber · May 14th, 2009, 02:40 AM

Hi Dave I am having the same exact problem. Not sure what you mean to set them manually? Via the registery?

Can you please explain..

I was trying the same thing Gil was trying.

Bruce Gruber · May 14th, 2009, 03:18 AM

Hi Dave,

If you are saying that this path shoukd be in my regestry for 64/vist it is there?

For 64-bit OSes
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Adobe\Premiere Pro\CurrentVersion]
"Plug-InsDir"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Common\\Plug-ins\\CS3\\MediaCore"

Bruce

Glenn Babcock · May 14th, 2009, 05:21 AM

Guys,

Yes, that's right. You need to check to see if this key is in your registry. If it's not then create it, and reinstall PHD4. You can verify that it installed correctly by opening the C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore folder and looking for the CFHD_*_Importer files.

I had the same issue with the CS4 install and this fixed it.

Regards,
Glenn

David Newman · May 14th, 2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Gruber

Hi Dave,

If you are saying that this path shoukd be in my regestry for 64/vist it is there?

For 64-bit OSes
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Adobe\Premiere Pro\CurrentVersion]
"Plug-InsDir"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Common\\Plug-ins\\CS3\\MediaCore"

Bruce

Check your registry to see if the path matches, and make changes as needed.

Bruce Gruber · May 14th, 2009, 10:21 AM

calle me stupid but the path is in the reg. but the importer files are not there. They are in CS4 but not cs3 and I can not get any files to import into cs3.

Bruce Gruber · May 14th, 2009, 10:24 AM

I tried copying the ones from CS4 mediacore folder but that did not work.

Glenn Babcock · May 14th, 2009, 10:51 AM

OK, as much as I didn't want to I decided to try PHD4 with PPCS3. So far it's been a much better experience, though my multi-camera previews are somewhat choppy.

I already had PPCS4 and PHD4 installed, so I installed PPCS3 then reinstalled PHD4. Import, presets, effects, export all seem to be fine.

I checked my registry and MediaCore folders. I confirmed the registry key is as stated. The contents of MediaCore are different for PPCS3 and PPCS4:

PPCS3 (C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore):
- im-CFHD_File_Import.prm

PPCS4 (C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore):
- CFHD_AVI_Importer.prm
- CFHD_File_Exporter.prm
- CFHD_MOV_Importer.prm
- CFRenderProc.exe

Regards,
Glenn

Bruce Gruber · May 14th, 2009, 11:24 AM

My 2 media core folders are showing the same thing for CS3. And CS4 as you have listed. When I go and start a new project in cs3 and go to import Select Cf. Avi the import box comes up bit just sits there.

It works fine with Cf 3.4? version CF 4.0 build 209 will not import CF files

Marty Hudzik · May 14th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Gruber

My 2 media core folders are showing the same thing for CS3. And CS4 as you have listed. When I go and start a new project in cs3 and go to import Select Cf. Avi the import box comes up bit just sits there.

It works fine with Cf 3.4? version CF 4.0 build 209 will not import CF files

I'm pretty sure that you should not be seeing all of the newer CS4 plugins in the CS3 mediacore folder. Because the API has changed the plugins have been re-written for CS4 and will not work with CS3. I am not a programmer but I can say that I had numerous issues with CS3 until David told me to delete the CFHD importer file since it is for CS4.

CS3 has been as stable as ever since that day, and (knock on wood) i have stopped getting the [src-time...} error messages I was getting with CF 3.4 and CS3.

Bruce Gruber · May 14th, 2009, 11:53 AM

Hi Marty
I am sorry I meant to say my floders have the files in them like Glenn has listed for his folder contents. I would type it all but it would take forever my iPhone. I am at my day job now.
Glenn Is this working for you on old CF files or the ones you just re captured?

May 12th, 2009, 12:55 PM	#31
Michael Panfeld Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 78	Update OK, so late last night I remembered that there was an Adobe update in December (4.01). I updated the CS4 suite this AM and it made a night and day difference. The timeline opened up just fine. The rendered parts were not squished anymore. The preview and program windows scrubbed the clips. Audio playback was just fine. I attempted to export to Encore and it didn't blow up! I left for work as it was rendering. I noted that the 4 cores were running in the 80-90% range. Hopefully when I get back, it will be done. I say that because the estimated time was over 2 hours and getting larger (In CS3, this only took about 27 minutes using the same settings - 2 pass VBR and the highest quality and bit rates). One annoying thing was that it still is generating the peak files each time a project is opened.

May 12th, 2009, 01:56 PM	#32
Gary Brun Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kråkstad Norway. Posts: 229	Yes I have the problems with peak files. All my adobe software and cineform software are the latest builds. I'm sure when adobe release their update sometime this month then cineform can fix the realtime engine. As my previous posts I am finding the latest cineform alot more stable. __________________ http://www.mlotv.com

May 13th, 2009, 06:22 PM	#33
Gil Reitsma Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Caloundra Australia Posts: 29	Went back to PPCS3 with PHD 4, but the clips won't import. Converted mt2 files in HDlink but will not import. Removed PHD 4 and reinstalled PHD 3 and the same clips imported ok. Puzzelling as I was hoping to use First Light in CS3 as David mention previously I think that this was the workflow they are concentrating on. Making PHD 4 and First Light to work with PPCS3 Gil Last edited by Gil Reitsma; May 13th, 2009 at 07:16 PM.

May 13th, 2009, 09:17 PM	#34
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Gil, CS3 is working fine with the new betas. You likely have an install issue with components going in the wrong place. Premiere uses registery setting to inform plug-ins where to install, it is easily messed up. You can manual setup the install path at these registry locaitons (showing there typical defaults for CS3.) For 64-bit OSes [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Adobe\Premiere Pro\CurrentVersion] "Plug-InsDir"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Common\\Plug-ins\\CS3\\MediaCore" For 32-bit OSes [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Adobe\Premiere Pro\CurrentVersion] "Plug-InsDir"="C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Common\\Plug-ins\\CS3\\MediaCore" __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 14th, 2009, 01:44 AM	#35
Gil Reitsma Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Caloundra Australia Posts: 29	Thanks David I removed PHD3 and installed PHD4 as per your instructions Converted m2t file to avi with HDlink. But still will not import into timeline in CS3 I will give up until official release Gil

May 14th, 2009, 02:40 AM	#36
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Hi Dave I am having the same exact problem. Not sure what you mean to set them manually? Via the registery? Can you please explain.. I was trying the same thing Gil was trying.

May 14th, 2009, 03:18 AM	#37
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Hi Dave, If you are saying that this path shoukd be in my regestry for 64/vist it is there? For 64-bit OSes [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Adobe\Premiere Pro\CurrentVersion] "Plug-InsDir"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Common\\Plug-ins\\CS3\\MediaCore" Bruce

May 14th, 2009, 05:21 AM	#38
Glenn Babcock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 64	Guys, Yes, that's right. You need to check to see if this key is in your registry. If it's not then create it, and reinstall PHD4. You can verify that it installed correctly by opening the C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore folder and looking for the CFHD_*_Importer files. I had the same issue with the CS4 install and this fixed it. Regards, Glenn

May 14th, 2009, 10:21 AM	#40
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	calle me stupid but the path is in the reg. but the importer files are not there. They are in CS4 but not cs3 and I can not get any files to import into cs3.

May 14th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#41
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	I tried copying the ones from CS4 mediacore folder but that did not work.

May 14th, 2009, 10:51 AM	#42
Glenn Babcock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 64	OK, as much as I didn't want to I decided to try PHD4 with PPCS3. So far it's been a much better experience, though my multi-camera previews are somewhat choppy. I already had PPCS4 and PHD4 installed, so I installed PPCS3 then reinstalled PHD4. Import, presets, effects, export all seem to be fine. I checked my registry and MediaCore folders. I confirmed the registry key is as stated. The contents of MediaCore are different for PPCS3 and PPCS4: PPCS3 (C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore): - im-CFHD_File_Import.prm PPCS4 (C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore): - CFHD_AVI_Importer.prm - CFHD_File_Exporter.prm - CFHD_MOV_Importer.prm - CFRenderProc.exe Regards, Glenn

May 14th, 2009, 11:24 AM	#43
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	My 2 media core folders are showing the same thing for CS3. And CS4 as you have listed. When I go and start a new project in cs3 and go to import Select Cf. Avi the import box comes up bit just sits there. It works fine with Cf 3.4? version CF 4.0 build 209 will not import CF files

May 14th, 2009, 11:53 AM	#45
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Hi Marty I am sorry I meant to say my floders have the files in them like Glenn has listed for his folder contents. I would type it all but it would take forever my iPhone. I am at my day job now. Glenn Is this working for you on old CF files or the ones you just re captured?