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Darin Clifton · October 5th, 2009, 02:35 PM

Mike,

Although I've been editing for a while on the PC based NLE's - I'm new to the Mac & FCP and could use some help. I've roughed a couple of shows in FCP and have edited files on the PC with the MRC1 files - but not together at this point.

Could you help me with a step by step procedure of tranfering footage from my Z5/MRC1 to my Mac for edit in FCP 5. ? What do I need in addition to Clipwrap to get these files imported / transcoded to QT and ready for FCP ? What should be my best settings for FCP edit ?

If it's already here - just point me in the right direction.

As always guys - thanks for your help !

Darin

Mike Woodworth · October 6th, 2009, 03:31 PM

Darin,

There are a lot of permutations of possible workflows. With FCP5, you'll have spotty HDV support at best - so I'd recommend transcoding the footage to apple's AIC codec for better editing support. You shouldn't need any additional software besides FCP and ClipWrap to get going. Just drag the m2t files into ClipWrap, select AIC from the dropdown list at the bottom and hit the convert button. When all is said and done, you can archive or delete the m2t files and edit form the new .mov files.

Mike
--
Mike Woodworth
mike@divergentmedia.com

Darin Clifton · October 8th, 2009, 11:56 AM

Mike,

I should have the discs on the way to upgrade my FCP to 6. Does this change your recommendations for AIC ?

Also - is the Sony utility plug-in for FCP 6 the only way to get the large divided clips to import as one seamless clip so they can then be re-wrapped ?

Thanks for your help !

Darin

Mike Woodworth · October 8th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Darin,

With FCP 6.0 you can do a rewrap and feel secure any original camera format will be supported. As for the sony clip spanning, check out an earlier thread -

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/divergen...-segments.html

-Mike

Darin Clifton · December 30th, 2009, 04:53 PM

Mike,

I'm using CW to rewrap m2t files from my MRC1. You had recommended changing to the AIC instead of just wrapping to mov. The AIC wrap seems to move much slower. I've tried just wrapping to mov and don't appear to be having issues in my tests so far.

What should I be looking for in the way of problems ? Am I missing something ?

Thanks,
Darin

Darin Clifton · January 13th, 2010, 03:09 PM

I'm using FCP 5 with Clipwrap. I convert M2t files from my mrc1k to .mov without altering original samples.

The resulting .mov files readily edit on FCP5 and play perfectly in the timeline - that's where the problem starts. If I export a self-contained Qt movie using current settings, I get "phantom" frames in the file. Randomly inserted frames that render the file useless.

My solution was to export the QT self-contained file in the Apple Intermediate codec. Worked perfectly !! Flawless QT was the result.

If I had taken Mike's advice and wrapped them in AIC originally - I might not have had that issue - but the extra time to wrap in AIC from each raw file seemed to be a inconvenience at the time.

Just an FYI.

Darin Clifton · March 8th, 2010, 08:40 AM

Mike,

You have any input on my last post ???

Mike Woodworth · March 9th, 2010, 02:54 PM

Darin,

Do I think you should have taken my advice? Yes ;)

Seriously though, I suspect the "phantom" frames you're experiencing are due to FCP5s inability to properly parse the GOP structure of AVCHD. We've only tested with the newer FCS versions, so I can't say much more than that. We haven't seen this problem though with those newer versions of FCP.

mike

Darin Clifton · March 9th, 2010, 03:12 PM

I think our producer actually has the latest FCP in route. When I wrap to QT for newer than 5 , I shouldn't have issues - correct ?

Thanks for the help !

October 5th, 2009, 02:35 PM	#1
Darin Clifton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sulligent, Alabama Posts: 132	Step by step Mike, Although I've been editing for a while on the PC based NLE's - I'm new to the Mac & FCP and could use some help. I've roughed a couple of shows in FCP and have edited files on the PC with the MRC1 files - but not together at this point. Could you help me with a step by step procedure of tranfering footage from my Z5/MRC1 to my Mac for edit in FCP 5. ? What do I need in addition to Clipwrap to get these files imported / transcoded to QT and ready for FCP ? What should be my best settings for FCP edit ? If it's already here - just point me in the right direction. As always guys - thanks for your help ! Darin

October 8th, 2009, 11:56 AM	#3
Darin Clifton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sulligent, Alabama Posts: 132	FCP / m2t Mike, I should have the discs on the way to upgrade my FCP to 6. Does this change your recommendations for AIC ? Also - is the Sony utility plug-in for FCP 6 the only way to get the large divided clips to import as one seamless clip so they can then be re-wrapped ? Thanks for your help ! Darin

December 30th, 2009, 04:53 PM	#5
Darin Clifton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sulligent, Alabama Posts: 132	CW with FCP5 Mike, I'm using CW to rewrap m2t files from my MRC1. You had recommended changing to the AIC instead of just wrapping to mov. The AIC wrap seems to move much slower. I've tried just wrapping to mov and don't appear to be having issues in my tests so far. What should I be looking for in the way of problems ? Am I missing something ? Thanks, Darin

January 13th, 2010, 03:09 PM	#6
Darin Clifton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sulligent, Alabama Posts: 132	Glitch I'm using FCP 5 with Clipwrap. I convert M2t files from my mrc1k to .mov without altering original samples. The resulting .mov files readily edit on FCP5 and play perfectly in the timeline - that's where the problem starts. If I export a self-contained Qt movie using current settings, I get "phantom" frames in the file. Randomly inserted frames that render the file useless. My solution was to export the QT self-contained file in the Apple Intermediate codec. Worked perfectly !! Flawless QT was the result. If I had taken Mike's advice and wrapped them in AIC originally - I might not have had that issue - but the extra time to wrap in AIC from each raw file seemed to be a inconvenience at the time. Just an FYI.

March 8th, 2010, 08:40 AM	#7
Darin Clifton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sulligent, Alabama Posts: 132	Bump for Mike....... Mike, You have any input on my last post ???

October 6th, 2009, 03:31 PM	#2
Mike Woodworth divergent media Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United States Posts: 52	Darin, There are a lot of permutations of possible workflows. With FCP5, you'll have spotty HDV support at best - so I'd recommend transcoding the footage to apple's AIC codec for better editing support. You shouldn't need any additional software besides FCP and ClipWrap to get going. Just drag the m2t files into ClipWrap, select AIC from the dropdown list at the bottom and hit the convert button. When all is said and done, you can archive or delete the m2t files and edit form the new .mov files. Mike -- Mike Woodworth mike@divergentmedia.com

October 8th, 2009, 12:14 PM	#4
Mike Woodworth divergent media Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United States Posts: 52	Darin, With FCP 6.0 you can do a rewrap and feel secure any original camera format will be supported. As for the sony clip spanning, check out an earlier thread - http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/divergen...-segments.html -Mike

March 9th, 2010, 02:54 PM	#8
Mike Woodworth divergent media Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United States Posts: 52	Darin, Do I think you should have taken my advice? Yes ;) Seriously though, I suspect the "phantom" frames you're experiencing are due to FCP5s inability to properly parse the GOP structure of AVCHD. We've only tested with the newer FCS versions, so I can't say much more than that. We haven't seen this problem though with those newer versions of FCP. mike

March 9th, 2010, 03:12 PM	#9
Darin Clifton Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sulligent, Alabama Posts: 132	I think our producer actually has the latest FCP in route. When I wrap to QT for newer than 5 , I shouldn't have issues - correct ? Thanks for the help !