24p - The End All Be All Thread

John Huling · March 6th, 2007, 01:37 PM

I don't see a preset for importing an HDV 1080 24P clip into Motion. All kinds of other settings but not HDV 1080 24P. Anyone know how to do HDV in Motion, is it possible or is there another way for this to be done I am missing?

John Huling · March 12th, 2007, 05:52 AM

I posted this question a week ago but I think it got lost. I am still trying to get an answer.

I don't see a preset for importing an HDV 1080 24P clip into Motion directly. All kinds of other settings but not "HDV 1080 24P". Anyone know if there is a setting? If so, how to do HDV 1080 24P in Motion, is it possible or is there another way for this to be done I am missing? Thanks

Drew Curran · March 12th, 2007, 07:24 AM

John

Have you asked this question one the apple discussions forum?
They might have specific answers.

Andrew

John Huling · March 16th, 2007, 04:40 AM

where is the setting in MOTON: HDV 1080 24P?
I did look but was not able to find any info. This is the only forum I use. I have been on others but frankly can't stand them and for the most part never go there. They remind me of Ham Radio/CB chat in the mid 70's. I don't want to sign up for any others. I have found there are enough well informed people right here. Thanks:)

Pasquale Benedetto · March 16th, 2007, 07:48 PM

John, the Apple discussion sites have application specific forums. They are easily searchable -meaning you need only go there to find your info... many smart folks over there. I have always found the answers to Apple specific apps there in a few seconds. I searched your topic and found answers

http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=656

John Huling · March 17th, 2007, 05:26 AM

Thanks Pasquale, Sedona is an old stomping ground for me. In 1968 before slide rock was open to the public it was an abandoned homestead. Lot's of apples we used to film there on old 16mm. Anyway...

I still was not able to find the specific answer to a simple question. Does Motion have a setting for HDV 1080 24P in it's drop down box for settings? If so...where?

Liam Hall · March 17th, 2007, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Huling

I posted this question a week ago but I think it got lost. I am still trying to get an answer.

I don't see a preset for importing an HDV 1080 24P clip into Motion directly. All kinds of other settings but not "HDV 1080 24P". Anyone know if there is a setting? If so, how to do HDV 1080 24P in Motion, is it possible or is there another way for this to be done I am missing? Thanks

John,
Just chose 'custom setting' from the drop-down menu after selecting 'Start with new project'. You can select your frame rate and resolution there. You can also save the custom setting so next time it'll appear in the drop-down menu.

Hope that helps,

Liam.

John Huling · March 18th, 2007, 05:20 AM

Thanks Liam
I will go and check that out this morning. Waiting to see some more on your website too.
John

Ryan Flesher · March 28th, 2007, 01:29 PM

Anyone know if you can get reversed telecined 24p footage (Cinema Tools used to remove 3:2 pulldown from Canon HV20 24p footage) to work in a FCP 1080/24p timeline without rendering.
I am mixing footage from a Canon Xh-A1 and the new HV20 and on of the two must be rendered to work together.
I capture the Xh-A1 24f footage using the 1080/24p easy setup (HDV capture preset) and it captures well as 23.98 fps HDV footage.
I capture the HV20 footage using the HDV Apple Int. Codec which makes it 29.97 fps HDV 1080/60i. I then reverse telecine with Cinema Tools that footage to 23.98fps and it looks and runs great.
But if I put it in my 1080/24p timeline I still have to render it. If try and capture the Xh-A1 footage with HDV AIC it captures only at 29.97fps.
Is this maybe a fix that will come along with the next FCP version?
Help please.
Ryan

Thomas Barthle Jr. · April 4th, 2007, 04:17 PM

It seems they are talking about this here on the second page:

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.ph...20+footage+24p

Matt Crane · May 30th, 2007, 05:39 AM

Has anyone tried yet?
For some time, I've wanted an easy way to take some 1080i60 HDV footage, and slow it down to 24p to use in my 24p timeline, and it produce smooth slow motion effects, as if it was shot 60p and slowed to 24p.

Previously, this was a time and space consuming method that involved After Effects (which I don't have).

If anyone has any feedback, or would be willing to give this a shot, I would greatly appreciate it.

FYI, I use a Canon XH A1.

Kelly Harmsworth · May 30th, 2007, 05:07 PM

I'm not positive but would you not use motion 3 to do this?

Riley Harmon · June 6th, 2007, 12:34 AM

use the nattress plugin

Tony Tibbetts · June 6th, 2007, 08:52 PM

Okay, I was messing around with footage I shot on both the XH-A1 and the HV20 both in 24p mode.

I set up a sequence in FCP that was 1440x1080 HD 24fps using ProRes 422

I brought in footage from the A1 and it immediately recognized the 24 fps giving me only the green band render above the timeline. 24 progressive frames. Next I dragged some footage from the HV20 as a fluke to see what it would look like. To my surprise I didn't notice any interlace lines, nor did I notice any strange cadence stutter. It looked just like the A1 footage. Straight 24fps video.

Are my eyes deceiving me? Has anyone else attempted this?

Gene Brockhoff · June 6th, 2007, 10:25 PM

I'll give it a shot. The green render line is dependant on your processor power. Did you frame by frame step through the clip? No iipppiippp?

March 6th, 2007, 01:37 PM	#46
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	Does Motion do import HDV 1080 24P? I don't see a preset for importing an HDV 1080 24P clip into Motion. All kinds of other settings but not HDV 1080 24P. Anyone know how to do HDV in Motion, is it possible or is there another way for this to be done I am missing?

March 12th, 2007, 05:52 AM	#47
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	Does Motion do import HDV 1080 24P? I posted this question a week ago but I think it got lost. I am still trying to get an answer. I don't see a preset for importing an HDV 1080 24P clip into Motion directly. All kinds of other settings but not "HDV 1080 24P". Anyone know if there is a setting? If so, how to do HDV 1080 24P in Motion, is it possible or is there another way for this to be done I am missing? Thanks

March 12th, 2007, 07:24 AM	#48
Drew Curran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: N. Ireland Posts: 370	John Have you asked this question one the apple discussions forum? They might have specific answers. Andrew __________________ Pixol www.pixol.co www.facebook.com/pixolmedia www.twitter.com/pixolmedia

March 28th, 2007, 01:29 PM	#54
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	Using reversed 24p footage in 1080/24p timeline Anyone know if you can get reversed telecined 24p footage (Cinema Tools used to remove 3:2 pulldown from Canon HV20 24p footage) to work in a FCP 1080/24p timeline without rendering. I am mixing footage from a Canon Xh-A1 and the new HV20 and on of the two must be rendered to work together. I capture the Xh-A1 24f footage using the 1080/24p easy setup (HDV capture preset) and it captures well as 23.98 fps HDV footage. I capture the HV20 footage using the HDV Apple Int. Codec which makes it 29.97 fps HDV 1080/60i. I then reverse telecine with Cinema Tools that footage to 23.98fps and it looks and runs great. But if I put it in my 1080/24p timeline I still have to render it. If try and capture the Xh-A1 footage with HDV AIC it captures only at 29.97fps. Is this maybe a fix that will come along with the next FCP version? Help please. Ryan

May 30th, 2007, 05:39 AM	#56
Matt Crane Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk, VA Posts: 58	How does FCP 6 handle slow-mo 60i to 24p? Has anyone tried yet? For some time, I've wanted an easy way to take some 1080i60 HDV footage, and slow it down to 24p to use in my 24p timeline, and it produce smooth slow motion effects, as if it was shot 60p and slowed to 24p. Previously, this was a time and space consuming method that involved After Effects (which I don't have). If anyone has any feedback, or would be willing to give this a shot, I would greatly appreciate it. FYI, I use a Canon XH A1. Last edited by Matt Crane; May 30th, 2007 at 07:21 AM.

March 16th, 2007, 04:40 AM	#49
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	where is the setting in MOTON: HDV 1080 24P? I did look but was not able to find any info. This is the only forum I use. I have been on others but frankly can't stand them and for the most part never go there. They remind me of Ham Radio/CB chat in the mid 70's. I don't want to sign up for any others. I have found there are enough well informed people right here. Thanks:)

March 16th, 2007, 07:48 PM	#50
Pasquale Benedetto Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sedona, AZ Posts: 81	John, the Apple discussion sites have application specific forums. They are easily searchable -meaning you need only go there to find your info... many smart folks over there. I have always found the answers to Apple specific apps there in a few seconds. I searched your topic and found answers http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=656

March 17th, 2007, 05:26 AM	#51
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	Thanks Pasquale, Sedona is an old stomping ground for me. In 1968 before slide rock was open to the public it was an abandoned homestead. Lot's of apples we used to film there on old 16mm. Anyway... I still was not able to find the specific answer to a simple question. Does Motion have a setting for HDV 1080 24P in it's drop down box for settings? If so...where?

March 18th, 2007, 05:20 AM	#53
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	Thanks Liam I will go and check that out this morning. Waiting to see some more on your website too. John

April 4th, 2007, 04:17 PM	#55
Thomas Barthle Jr. Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 86	It seems they are talking about this here on the second page: http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.ph...20+footage+24p

May 30th, 2007, 05:07 PM	#57
Kelly Harmsworth Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 60	I'm not positive but would you not use motion 3 to do this?

June 6th, 2007, 12:34 AM	#58
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	use the nattress plugin

June 6th, 2007, 08:52 PM	#59
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	Does FCS2 Auto Detect 24p from the HV20? Okay, I was messing around with footage I shot on both the XH-A1 and the HV20 both in 24p mode. I set up a sequence in FCP that was 1440x1080 HD 24fps using ProRes 422 I brought in footage from the A1 and it immediately recognized the 24 fps giving me only the green band render above the timeline. 24 progressive frames. Next I dragged some footage from the HV20 as a fluke to see what it would look like. To my surprise I didn't notice any interlace lines, nor did I notice any strange cadence stutter. It looked just like the A1 footage. Straight 24fps video. Are my eyes deceiving me? Has anyone else attempted this?

June 6th, 2007, 10:25 PM	#60
Gene Brockhoff Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oakland CA Posts: 46	I'll give it a shot. The green render line is dependant on your processor power. Did you frame by frame step through the clip? No iipppiippp? __________________ "We are basically free, but who we think we are is not" Ram Dass