Various questions FCP3

Jeff Chandler · November 16th, 2002, 12:07 AM

Can these two apps peacefully coexist on the same system? I want to have the ability to use Premiere on my Mac while I learn FCP. I know that XDV3 has problems with Premiere being on the same system.

Perry Mack · November 16th, 2002, 12:07 AM

While taping with the PD 150,I have a Mac G3(blue and white monitor) that I am looking to put Final Cut Pro 3 on,and to edit my programs.The G3 is maxed out on RAM,and has 40gigs
internal hard drive.Now,I will be getting external hard drives from Lacie to daisy chain from the Mac in order to store footage-
yes,I'm planning to have several hard drives altogether.Folks,I'm
too poor to afford a G4(great system,but too costly),and I have concerns whether the G3 can handle the load.Any comforting and
calm reassurances would be welcome.Thanks.

Paul Sedillo · November 16th, 2002, 09:13 AM

Here are the specs from Apple:

Link: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs.html

Requirements

Macintosh computer with a 300-MHz or faster PowerPC G3 or G4 processor and built-in FireWire
— 500-MHz or faster single or 450-MHz dual processor Power Mac G4 or PowerBook G4 required for G4 realtime effects

— 667-MHz PowerBook G4 required for mobile G4 realtime effects in DV format

Mac OS 9.2.2 or Mac OS X v10.1.1

QuickTime (included)

256MB of RAM (384MB recommended for G4 realtime effects)

40MB of available disk space required for installation

Jeff Donald · November 16th, 2002, 10:24 AM

I have Premiere 6.5 and FCP 3.0.2 on OS 10.2.2 with no problems what so ever. All I can really say is try it and if Premiere doesn't work rethink your strategy.

Jeff

Vic Owen · November 16th, 2002, 10:54 AM

I used a 300Meg B&W with FCP3 with good success. I had around 384M ram, and used OS-9.2. If possible, an internal IDE hard drive would be a better and less-expensive addition. It was easier to do this on some models than others, though. I believe that the IDE required the 1-piece drive sled. I had a real early G3, so I went the internal SCSI card/drive route from Macgurus, but that a few years ago, and more expensive.

Some have used external FW drives, but daisy-chaining them is asking for drop-outs.

Bottom line, though, is that the G3 will perform quite well.

Jeff Chandler · November 16th, 2002, 01:26 PM

Thanks, Jeff. I just wanted to see if anyone was doing it successfullybefore I gave it a try!

Simon Davies · November 19th, 2002, 01:48 PM

Hi

Please help!

I am using a G4 with FCP3 and whilst filming this year took some images of still photographs to use in a doc i'm making. Unfortunately I recorded the images upside down, but didn't think that was a problem as i could use the 'flop' filter in FCP to rectify the problem.

Flopped image looks great in FCP but on my Television monitor any images that have had this filter applied wobble up and down and render the sequence unwatchable.

I've tried another monitor, same thing. I even tried flopping, recording the correctly oriented image back to DV and then re-importing into FCP. The problem didn't resolve.

Has any of you guys ever had this or got any suggestions?

BTW I can't easily refilm the images, they were taken in the U.S. and I live in the UK!

Cheers!

Simon

Jeff Donald · November 19th, 2002, 05:29 PM

I can't post the whole procedure,(sorry I have my Cub Scout meeting to go to) but the fields are reversed. I'll post details later this evening.

Jeff

Simon Davies · November 19th, 2002, 06:22 PM

Thanks Jeff

I can't get back on the 'net until 6:30 gmt tomorrow, but very much look forward to your reply

Cheers

Simon

John Locke · November 19th, 2002, 07:25 PM

er..um...Jeff. Just HOW OLD are you?

Marc Betz · November 19th, 2002, 07:35 PM

Jeff is 14 1/2 so he is allowed to go to cub scout meetings..... but by now he should be a weablo (sic) or an eagle.

Just kidding,

I couldn't resist

Jeff Donald · November 19th, 2002, 10:34 PM

I'll be 14 my next birthday.

Actually, it's my son's Cub Scout meeting (he got his Bobcat pin). He's 9, I'm 45. I think by rotating the scene you got the field dominance out of order. Normally mini DV is lower dominate. But by rotating the image 180¼ the dominance is out of order, causing the image to hop. The quickest way is to use the de-interlace filer on the clip. But it may soften the image too much after being rendered.

The correct way to do it is to nest the sequence, rotate the clip and under sequence settings, change the field dominance. Render the nested sequence and edit it into your sequence. FCP help will explain nesting and how to, just search nest.

Jeff

Simon Davies · November 20th, 2002, 04:25 PM

Jeff

Brilliant, thanks it worked!!

Simon

Mike Butler · November 22nd, 2002, 06:06 PM

Of course, once you start using FCP, you won't want to use Premiere, and you'll be wondering why you even keep it on your system at all!
:-)

November 24th, 2002, 12:11 PM

Hey all,

I recorded a scene on a beach, and got a lot of wind pop in the mic I was using (I used a windscreen, but apparently it wasn't enough!), but I'm using FCP3, and it came with a copy of Peak-DV from bias. How do you open the dialogue of the clip in Peak, so that I can try to eliminate the wind pop, because it's distorting the actor's lines?? Do you have to unlink audio/video, and then export the clip to a file, or is it just a plug-in for FCP?

Also, and suggestions as to what filters to try?

Thanks a million!! :)

November 16th, 2002, 12:07 AM	#61
Jeff Chandler Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mesa, Az. Posts: 167	FCP3 and Premiere6 Can these two apps peacefully coexist on the same system? I want to have the ability to use Premiere on my Mac while I learn FCP. I know that XDV3 has problems with Premiere being on the same system. __________________ Jeff Chandler

November 16th, 2002, 12:07 AM	#62
Perry Mack New Boot Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 14	FCP 3 on G3? While taping with the PD 150,I have a Mac G3(blue and white monitor) that I am looking to put Final Cut Pro 3 on,and to edit my programs.The G3 is maxed out on RAM,and has 40gigs internal hard drive.Now,I will be getting external hard drives from Lacie to daisy chain from the Mac in order to store footage- yes,I'm planning to have several hard drives altogether.Folks,I'm too poor to afford a G4(great system,but too costly),and I have concerns whether the G3 can handle the load.Any comforting and calm reassurances would be welcome.Thanks.

November 16th, 2002, 09:13 AM	#63
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	Here are the specs from Apple: Link: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs.html Requirements Macintosh computer with a 300-MHz or faster PowerPC G3 or G4 processor and built-in FireWire — 500-MHz or faster single or 450-MHz dual processor Power Mac G4 or PowerBook G4 required for G4 realtime effects — 667-MHz PowerBook G4 required for mobile G4 realtime effects in DV format Mac OS 9.2.2 or Mac OS X v10.1.1 QuickTime (included) 256MB of RAM (384MB recommended for G4 realtime effects) 40MB of available disk space required for installation __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

November 16th, 2002, 10:54 AM	#65
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	I used a 300Meg B&W with FCP3 with good success. I had around 384M ram, and used OS-9.2. If possible, an internal IDE hard drive would be a better and less-expensive addition. It was easier to do this on some models than others, though. I believe that the IDE required the 1-piece drive sled. I had a real early G3, so I went the internal SCSI card/drive route from Macgurus, but that a few years ago, and more expensive. Some have used external FW drives, but daisy-chaining them is asking for drop-outs. Bottom line, though, is that the G3 will perform quite well. __________________ -- Vic Owen --

November 16th, 2002, 01:26 PM	#66
Jeff Chandler Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mesa, Az. Posts: 167	Thanks, Jeff. I just wanted to see if anyone was doing it successfullybefore I gave it a try! __________________ Jeff Chandler

November 16th, 2002, 10:24 AM	#64
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I have Premiere 6.5 and FCP 3.0.2 on OS 10.2.2 with no problems what so ever. All I can really say is try it and if Premiere doesn't work rethink your strategy. Jeff

November 19th, 2002, 01:48 PM	#67
Simon Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London Posts: 37	Flipping Flopping!!! FCP3 ... Hi Please help! I am using a G4 with FCP3 and whilst filming this year took some images of still photographs to use in a doc i'm making. Unfortunately I recorded the images upside down, but didn't think that was a problem as i could use the 'flop' filter in FCP to rectify the problem. Flopped image looks great in FCP but on my Television monitor any images that have had this filter applied wobble up and down and render the sequence unwatchable. I've tried another monitor, same thing. I even tried flopping, recording the correctly oriented image back to DV and then re-importing into FCP. The problem didn't resolve. Has any of you guys ever had this or got any suggestions? BTW I can't easily refilm the images, they were taken in the U.S. and I live in the UK! Cheers! Simon

November 19th, 2002, 05:29 PM	#68
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I can't post the whole procedure,(sorry I have my Cub Scout meeting to go to) but the fields are reversed. I'll post details later this evening. Jeff

November 19th, 2002, 06:22 PM	#69
Simon Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London Posts: 37	Thanks Jeff I can't get back on the 'net until 6:30 gmt tomorrow, but very much look forward to your reply Cheers Simon

November 19th, 2002, 07:25 PM	#70
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	er..um...Jeff. Just HOW OLD are you? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

November 19th, 2002, 07:35 PM	#71
Marc Betz Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NH Posts: 95	Jeff is 14 1/2 so he is allowed to go to cub scout meetings..... but by now he should be a weablo (sic) or an eagle. Just kidding, I couldn't resist __________________ Marc Betz

November 19th, 2002, 10:34 PM	#72
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I'll be 14 my next birthday. Actually, it's my son's Cub Scout meeting (he got his Bobcat pin). He's 9, I'm 45. I think by rotating the scene you got the field dominance out of order. Normally mini DV is lower dominate. But by rotating the image 180¼ the dominance is out of order, causing the image to hop. The quickest way is to use the de-interlace filer on the clip. But it may soften the image too much after being rendered. The correct way to do it is to nest the sequence, rotate the clip and under sequence settings, change the field dominance. Render the nested sequence and edit it into your sequence. FCP help will explain nesting and how to, just search nest. Jeff

November 20th, 2002, 04:25 PM	#73
Simon Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London Posts: 37	Jeff Brilliant, thanks it worked!! Simon

November 22nd, 2002, 06:06 PM	#74
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Of course, once you start using FCP, you won't want to use Premiere, and you'll be wondering why you even keep it on your system at all! :-) __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

November 24th, 2002, 12:11 PM	#75
Matt H123 Posts: n/a	total newbie question! help! Hey all, I recorded a scene on a beach, and got a lot of wind pop in the mic I was using (I used a windscreen, but apparently it wasn't enough!), but I'm using FCP3, and it came with a copy of Peak-DV from bias. How do you open the dialogue of the clip in Peak, so that I can try to eliminate the wind pop, because it's distorting the actor's lines?? Do you have to unlink audio/video, and then export the clip to a file, or is it just a plug-in for FCP? Also, and suggestions as to what filters to try? Thanks a million!! :)