3 models of hd 100? at DVinfo.net

John M Burkhart · April 6th, 2005, 10:23 PM

From this press release:

http://www.if.com.au/tech/2005/04/04.html

"JVC's first ProHD models, to be demonstrated at NAB 2005 and delivered in the months afterward include the revolutionary GY-HD100U, GY-HD100E and GY-HD101ED 3-CCD camcorders and the BR-HD50U and BR-HD50E ProHD recorder players."

So the if U and E models are NTSC/PAL, what's the 101ED?

Chris Hurd · April 7th, 2005, 12:12 AM

Possibly for the Chinese market? Either way I wouldn't give it too much thought. Buy the one that's sold in your country.

John M Burkhart · April 7th, 2005, 01:25 AM

I was kind of hoping it might be a dual format NTSC/PAL version. Living in Asia, you've got Japan and Philippines on NTSC, Most of the rest of Asia on PAL.

I've done productions that needed both. That's kind of why I'm jazzed about 24p. You can easily make an SD versions for NTSC or PAL as needed.

Thomas Smet · April 7th, 2005, 10:29 AM

It might be the camera with the add on hard disk recorder included as a package.

Chris Hurd · April 7th, 2005, 10:43 AM

Could be that, too. I'm sure we'll get clarification soon enough.

Joe Carney · April 7th, 2005, 10:53 AM

A UK article implied the E version was dual format. Could be wrong, or all models are dual format. the main dif being the PAL version supported 25p and output 108050i. Be nice to have, but you are right, 24p can easily be converted to anything.

Steve Mullen · April 7th, 2005, 11:31 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Joe Carney : A UK article implied the E version was dual format. Could be wrong, or all models are dual format. the main dif being the PAL version supported 25p and output 108050i. Be nice to have, but you are right, 24p can easily be converted to anything. -->>>

The Dual model fits with what I know from JVC.

Michael Maier · April 7th, 2005, 05:06 PM

If all HD100 were dual, that would make it really cheap for us Europeans to import them from the U.S. with the dollar as low as it is now. I hope JVC make it that way.

Joe Carney · April 8th, 2005, 02:16 PM

Steve, if you are right and all models are dual format, that is going to weigh very heavy on my decision.

I'm about to be at a rare time when I can actually afford to buy the camera and equipment I've been wanting. And upgrade to Vegas 6 and maybe a new powerful computer.

I'm just waiting and watching.

Another thing... I have absolutely no problem using tape. If you prep your tapes (PreBlack, then rewind) one should have little problem with them. Tape is proven technology that the manufacturers know how to deal with. I'm totally for going to HDD or P2, but the current cost of those options (firestore, P2 what ever) could go toward a good lighting kit and maybe even a field audio recording kit. Or a VTR...or what ever.

Josh Dahlberg · April 12th, 2005, 12:21 AM

Hi Joe (or anyone else who can fill me in)

You mention preping your tapes (preblack, then rewind)... can you explain how much of the tape to "preblack", how to do this, and what it achieves?

Thanks in advance

Josh

Chris Hurd · April 12th, 2005, 01:09 AM

Hi Josh,

You might want to check our forum called "The Long Black Line," which is devoted to all things relating to tape. This question has been answered there a few times before. Hope this helps,

Josh Dahlberg · April 12th, 2005, 01:50 AM

Thanks, will do

April 6th, 2005, 10:23 PM	#1
John M Burkhart Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 97	3 models of hd 100? From this press release: http://www.if.com.au/tech/2005/04/04.html "JVC's first ProHD models, to be demonstrated at NAB 2005 and delivered in the months afterward include the revolutionary GY-HD100U, GY-HD100E and GY-HD101ED 3-CCD camcorders and the BR-HD50U and BR-HD50E ProHD recorder players." So the if U and E models are NTSC/PAL, what's the 101ED?

April 7th, 2005, 12:12 AM	#2
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April 7th, 2005, 10:43 AM	#5
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April 7th, 2005, 11:31 AM	#7
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	<<<-- Originally posted by Joe Carney : A UK article implied the E version was dual format. Could be wrong, or all models are dual format. the main dif being the PAL version supported 25p and output 108050i. Be nice to have, but you are right, 24p can easily be converted to anything. -->>> The Dual model fits with what I know from JVC. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

April 12th, 2005, 01:09 AM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hi Josh, You might want to check our forum called "The Long Black Line," which is devoted to all things relating to tape. This question has been answered there a few times before. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 7th, 2005, 01:25 AM	#3
John M Burkhart Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 97	I was kind of hoping it might be a dual format NTSC/PAL version. Living in Asia, you've got Japan and Philippines on NTSC, Most of the rest of Asia on PAL. I've done productions that needed both. That's kind of why I'm jazzed about 24p. You can easily make an SD versions for NTSC or PAL as needed.

April 7th, 2005, 10:29 AM	#4
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	It might be the camera with the add on hard disk recorder included as a package.

April 7th, 2005, 10:53 AM	#6
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	A UK article implied the E version was dual format. Could be wrong, or all models are dual format. the main dif being the PAL version supported 25p and output 108050i. Be nice to have, but you are right, 24p can easily be converted to anything.

April 7th, 2005, 05:06 PM	#8
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	If all HD100 were dual, that would make it really cheap for us Europeans to import them from the U.S. with the dollar as low as it is now. I hope JVC make it that way.

April 8th, 2005, 02:16 PM	#9
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Steve, if you are right and all models are dual format, that is going to weigh very heavy on my decision. I'm about to be at a rare time when I can actually afford to buy the camera and equipment I've been wanting. And upgrade to Vegas 6 and maybe a new powerful computer. I'm just waiting and watching. Another thing... I have absolutely no problem using tape. If you prep your tapes (PreBlack, then rewind) one should have little problem with them. Tape is proven technology that the manufacturers know how to deal with. I'm totally for going to HDD or P2, but the current cost of those options (firestore, P2 what ever) could go toward a good lighting kit and maybe even a field audio recording kit. Or a VTR...or what ever.

April 12th, 2005, 12:21 AM	#10
Josh Dahlberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 513	Hi Joe (or anyone else who can fill me in) You mention preping your tapes (preblack, then rewind)... can you explain how much of the tape to "preblack", how to do this, and what it achieves? Thanks in advance Josh

April 12th, 2005, 01:50 AM	#12
Josh Dahlberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 513	Thanks, will do