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Phil Gadd March 8th, 2013 11:34 AM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
Hi Andrew

No extra lighting used, I amended some colour and 'colour match' in post edit but otherwise its exactly how it was shot.

Its my first try of a pro type camera so its difficult to judge as yet, but so far I really like the stabilisation feature (very good indeed). I am really happy with this model though

Only had the camera a few days so I will post a few more videos as I do them

Andrew Maclaurin March 11th, 2013 06:50 AM

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Great. I'm looking forward to seeing them.

Mike Beckett March 11th, 2013 08:53 AM

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It looks to have gone well Phil, it's good quality footage. The small size of the AC90 looks like it is a winner on the slider (do I remember a vertical slider shot in there?) Try doing that with my massive AC130!

Phil Gadd March 11th, 2013 09:14 AM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
Yes mike, to do a vertical and 45o shot I had to buy a manfrotto bracket like this


It allowed me to angle the camera etc.. Forget to check the max holding weight but it worked great

PS do you use a slider with the 130?

Mike Beckett March 12th, 2013 04:23 AM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
Phil,

I bought an original Glidecam a few years back, used it on a test video... then never used it again! It's just too much hassle for me. It would be different if I did weddings/corporate I suppose.

Peter Riding April 2nd, 2013 03:25 PM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
The AC90 is showing as back in stock at long last at Creative Video (UK). Lets hope thats accurate as I've just ordered one :- ) Kinda hope nothing gets announced at NAB which may spoil my fun!

Pete

Ethan Arnold April 3rd, 2013 12:47 AM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
I was contacted a few days ago, that my AC90 was now available. Meanwhile though I had taken a refund and bought a secondhand AC160 instead. After playing with it for a couple weeks, I'm very happy with it, but (after testing a Steadicam Pilot over the weekend) I've also come to the conclusion that I probably won't get into professional filming after all, so I'm considering selling it again and getting the AC90 after all.

Some interesting features the AC160 has, which I hadn't read about in any of the datasheets or manuals:
- Screw mount on top of the handle for easy low-mode mounting
- The zoom ring is not a servo driver but actually mechanical, so snap-zooms are possible (the zoom servo/manual switch mechanically disengages the servo motor from the lens)
- Unfortunately not all of the status data is displayed on the external monitor of the steadicam, it seems only the "partial" selection is displayed but not "full" (for the builtin LCD you can choose between the two) so things like iris setting, Focal length and audio level meter are not visible on the external monitor, which makes operating with a steadicam or crane less desirable

I wonder if it's the same with the AC90?

Mike Beckett April 3rd, 2013 02:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Beckett (Post 1783878)
Phil,

I bought an original Glidecam a few years back, used it on a test video... then never used it again! It's just too much hassle for me. It would be different if I did weddings/corporate I suppose.

Just to correct this.... I meant Glidetrack, not Glidecam!

Phil Gadd April 3rd, 2013 09:14 AM

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Thanks Mike, I knew what you meant really.

Ethan, I love the ac90 for its portability and ease of use. After just finishing a colour grand and correction tutorial I realise any post editor would hate me for not setting up scenes better i.e. WB etc

To be fair, I am a beginner to the professional side but would like to have the knowledge to operate the 160 one day (probably by then it will be a different model)

Andrew Maclaurin April 3rd, 2013 02:20 PM

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phil, how did your shoot in the bar go? do you have any images to show us how the camera handle low light run and gun? it'd be great to see some!

Phil Gadd April 4th, 2013 03:20 PM

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Hi Andrew

It went well but I ended up with a mix of shots with the led light I bought and others that I should have graded/corrected in post edit.

The client wanted a video close to the 'American pie' type of thing and it got much worse hence the hesitancy to show it on here.

However if you inbox me i will send you the link :-)

Ethan Arnold April 9th, 2013 12:50 AM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethan Arnold (Post 1788237)
The zoom ring is not a servo driver but actually mechanical, so snap-zooms are possible (the zoom servo/manual switch mechanically disengages the servo motor from the lens)

Can anyone please tell me if the AC90 works like this too?
Or is the manual zoom ring an electronic one like focus+iris?
Looking at this detail picture: http://business.panasonic.de/profess...e_original.jpg it looks to me like it's an electronic one, not mechanically coupled, since I don't see any labeling in the ring like the AC160 has.

Mike Beckett April 9th, 2013 03:46 AM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
From what I've seen and read, all three rings are electronic/servo.

I love the manual zoom in my AC130, but I think it's the cheapest camcorder with that feature!

Andrew Maclaurin April 14th, 2013 02:45 PM

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Thanks Phil. A crazy night! Were you using manual? How do feel the camera handled? Were you happy with the images?

Phil Gadd April 15th, 2013 12:36 PM

Re: Panasonic ag ac90 - Uk customer delays
 
Hi Andrew

a very crazy night indeed ha. I tried some shots on manual but I panicked and went back to auto. I felt it handled well although my post editing skills have improved since (using davinci resolve lite etc)

For the money and for my knowledge base it worked well. Im using it at a wedding in spain in 8 weeks so would be interested how it captures the beautiful spanish evening :-)


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