Panasonic DVX / DVC Battery topics

Barry Green · July 21st, 2003, 02:47 PM

B&H is now carrying the CGR-D54, they list it as "in stock". I think their price is $169.00. It's functionally the same battery as "shimwass" is offering.

Also, the Power2000 3600mah batteries seem to be serving quite well. They're $69.95 at B&H and they seem to last a good long time. I haven't timed them but I'd guess they last at least three hours each.

Neil Slade · July 21st, 2003, 04:48 PM

Okay, so here's the deal

Eagle import's ad says 2800 mAh battery, 191 grams.

They are not telling the truth.
Looks like they are listing the specs for the actual OEM Panasonic battery, which is about 195 grams. It records with the LCD open for 2.8 hours.

(You can safely figure on the DVX100 that you get 1 hour LCD open/Record per 1000 mAh)

The battery Eagle Imports on Ebay send you says 2800 mAh for $30 (add $6 for shipping) and actually weighs 155 grams- (what they are advertising as a 2500 mAh battery, although mine is labeled 2800mAh on the battery.)

False advertising by either or both the Chinese manufacturers or the dealer.

The life of this battery is respective of its weight, so figure about 2.5 hours with LCD open in record.

You get what you pay for generally. Cheaper than the OEM battery, more cost effective, but certainly not a 5 hour battery as claimed.

This is a good battery deal compared with the OEM
HOWEVER

I just wish these dealers wouldn't LIE.

Neil Slade.

Neil Slade · July 21st, 2003, 05:20 PM

Eagle Import Batteries

Okay, so here's the deal

Eagle import's ad says 2800 mAh battery, 191 grams.

They are not telling the truth.
Looks like they are listing the specs for the actual OEM Panasonic battery, which is about 195 grams. It records with the LCD open for 2.8
hours.

(You can safely figure on the DVX100 that you get 1 hour LCD open/Record per 1000 mAh)

The battery Eagle Imports on Ebay send you says 2800 mAh for $30 (add $6 for shipping) and actually weighs 155 grams- (what they are
advertising as a 2500 mAh battery, although mine is labeled 2800mAh on the battery.)

False advertising by either or both the Chinese manufacturers or the dealer.

The life of this battery is respective of its weight, so figure about 2.5 hours with LCD open in record.

You get what you pay for generally. Cheaper than the OEM battery, more cost effective, but certainly not a 3 hour battery as claimed. (And even Panasonic says 2800mAh is 5 hours-- that's without LCD, likely play only)

This is a good battery deal compared with the OEM
HOWEVER

I just wish these dealers wouldn't LIE.

Neil Slade.

Alturo Nguyen · July 21st, 2003, 06:00 PM

before you get super technical on me....this is basically true, and better to use this basic formula than trusting any ads or reviews...it's basic electricity

also...i'm sure many know already, but the CGR-D54 is in stock at bh/other places

According to the manual, the dvx100 uses:
(this is how many watts the dvx100 drinks up per hour)

6.8w (when viewfinder is used)
7.8w (when lcd is used)
9.2w (max consumption)

Here's the simple formula you gotta remember
volts*amps=watts

The input the dvx100 likes on it's batteries is 7.2v, though it's rated at 7.9v

Let's take a couple batteries:

stock
cgr-d16
and
CGR-D54

**************
cgr-d16 is 1600mAH = 1.6amps
1.6*7.2volts= 11.52watts(fully charged)

now you just divide watts by the table up top, lets use the worst case scenario, the dvx100 is using 9.2w
so...
11.52/9.2= 1.25 HOURS

so the stock battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of 1.25 HOURS (this could also be the maximum)
**************
**************

same forumla for the
CGR-54
5.4amps*7.2volts=38.88 watts(fully charged)
38.88/9.2= 4.23 HOURS

so the CGR-54 battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of
4.23 HOURS (this could also be the maximum)

anyway........ thinking of how i want to power it, and was in battery-mode, thought it might be of interest any ?s just post

Alturo Nguyen · July 23rd, 2003, 01:46 PM

NOTHING is wrong with the battery, so it sounds.
false advertising, maybe, but the battery doens't sound bad at all

also...i'm sure many know already, but the CGR-D54 is in stock at bh/other places

2800 is better than 2500

if you are using ANY BRAND of 2500mah, the MOST you should ever expect is 2.65hrs, using the viewfinder only.

2.31hrs lcd being used
1.96hrs max consumption

you can't really expect or depend on a 2500mah(2.5amps) battery lasting even 2 hours.

If it does, great, but no matter who makes the battery, that's how it goes. It sounds like hard core false advertising, but i didn't check it out, just trying to help with electrical, because that seller, if making false statements, is definitely NOT the only place or seller doing so.

Not trying to bash anyone, just cheap batteries are fine, and unless they are known to explode or leak, then they are all the same.
Don't depend on any place out there, use the forumla, its simple.

**********************************************
According to the manual, the dvx100 uses:
(this is how many watts the dvx100 drinks up per hour)

6.8w (when viewfinder is used)
7.8w (when lcd is used)
9.2w (max consumption)

Here's the simple formula you gotta remember
volts*amps=watts

The input the dvx100 likes on it's batteries is 7.2v, though it's rated at 7.9v

Let's take a couple batteries:

stock
cgr-d16
and
CGR-D54

**************
cgr-d16 is 1600mAH = 1.6amps
1.6*7.2volts= 11.52watts(fully charged)

now you just divide watts by the table up top, lets use the worst case scenario, the dvx100 is using 9.2w
so...
11.52/9.2= 1.25 HOURS

so the stock battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of 1.25 HOURS (this could also be the maximum)
**************
**************

same forumla for the
CGR-54
5.4amps*7.2volts=38.88 watts(fully charged)
38.88/9.2= 4.23 HOURS

so the CGR-54 battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of
4.23 HOURS (this could also be the maximum)

anyway........ thinking of how i want to power it, and was in battery-mode, thought it might be of interest any ?s just post

Yang Wen · July 23rd, 2003, 03:14 PM

Even the retail panasonic 2800mah will not get 5 hours with the DVX100 !!! it's onyl 5 hours with those small 1CCD camcorders.

Alturo Nguyen · July 23rd, 2003, 03:46 PM

besides the one's panasonic makes, i mean for nrg style beltpacks anyone know of a setup?

Robert Mann Z. · July 24th, 2003, 07:40 AM

cigarette adapter...BH told me there not out yet...was this not true?

Alturo Nguyen · July 24th, 2003, 07:47 AM

that's what they say, and nrg says as well, and nrg doesn't plan on making anythign for it anytime soon

William Wallick · July 27th, 2003, 12:16 AM

5400mAh batteries aren't available in the US yet, but there is a guy selling them on Ebay. I got one and am quite satisfied.
WW

Barry Green · July 27th, 2003, 01:37 AM

Actually, they are now available in the US. B&H lists the CGR-D54 as "in stock" at $169.00.

William Wallick · July 27th, 2003, 09:51 AM

OK.

Yikes! I got mine for $79
WW

Stefan Susini · July 27th, 2003, 11:18 AM

Hello,

there is a switch on the back of the battery 1600 mAh that came with the AG-DVX100, it shows a red dot position when on the left, or nothing when on the right. Nothing about it on the manual. Somebody knows what it means?

Stefan

Winston Cheong · July 27th, 2003, 12:31 PM

Most battery maker have that for the user to identify if a battery is charged. There is no electrical connection on the switch and its up to you to denote if the red dot is for a fully charged battery.

Barry Green · July 27th, 2003, 02:07 PM

Yeah, I know, mine too -- that $79 deal just rules! I don't know if he has any more though, there aren't any more listed for sale...

July 21st, 2003, 04:48 PM	#77
Neil Slade Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denver Posts: 131	Eagle Import Batteries Okay, so here's the deal Eagle import's ad says 2800 mAh battery, 191 grams. They are not telling the truth. Looks like they are listing the specs for the actual OEM Panasonic battery, which is about 195 grams. It records with the LCD open for 2.8 hours. (You can safely figure on the DVX100 that you get 1 hour LCD open/Record per 1000 mAh) The battery Eagle Imports on Ebay send you says 2800 mAh for $30 (add $6 for shipping) and actually weighs 155 grams- (what they are advertising as a 2500 mAh battery, although mine is labeled 2800mAh on the battery.) False advertising by either or both the Chinese manufacturers or the dealer. The life of this battery is respective of its weight, so figure about 2.5 hours with LCD open in record. You get what you pay for generally. Cheaper than the OEM battery, more cost effective, but certainly not a 5 hour battery as claimed. This is a good battery deal compared with the OEM HOWEVER I just wish these dealers wouldn't LIE. Neil Slade.

July 21st, 2003, 05:20 PM	#78
Neil Slade Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denver Posts: 131	Eagle Import Batteries on Ebay Eagle Import Batteries Okay, so here's the deal Eagle import's ad says 2800 mAh battery, 191 grams. They are not telling the truth. Looks like they are listing the specs for the actual OEM Panasonic battery, which is about 195 grams. It records with the LCD open for 2.8 hours. (You can safely figure on the DVX100 that you get 1 hour LCD open/Record per 1000 mAh) The battery Eagle Imports on Ebay send you says 2800 mAh for $30 (add $6 for shipping) and actually weighs 155 grams- (what they are advertising as a 2500 mAh battery, although mine is labeled 2800mAh on the battery.) False advertising by either or both the Chinese manufacturers or the dealer. The life of this battery is respective of its weight, so figure about 2.5 hours with LCD open in record. You get what you pay for generally. Cheaper than the OEM battery, more cost effective, but certainly not a 3 hour battery as claimed. (And even Panasonic says 2800mAh is 5 hours-- that's without LCD, likely play only) This is a good battery deal compared with the OEM HOWEVER I just wish these dealers wouldn't LIE. Neil Slade.

July 21st, 2003, 06:00 PM	#79
Alturo Nguyen Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 52	understanding your battery requirements/power needs in any application... before you get super technical on me....this is basically true, and better to use this basic formula than trusting any ads or reviews...it's basic electricity also...i'm sure many know already, but the CGR-D54 is in stock at bh/other places According to the manual, the dvx100 uses: (this is how many watts the dvx100 drinks up per hour) 6.8w (when viewfinder is used) 7.8w (when lcd is used) 9.2w (max consumption) Here's the simple formula you gotta remember voltsamps=watts The input the dvx100 likes on it's batteries is 7.2v, though it's rated at 7.9v Let's take a couple batteries: stock cgr-d16 and CGR-D54 ************* cgr-d16 is 1600mAH = 1.6amps 1.67.2volts= 11.52watts(fully charged) now you just divide watts by the table up top, lets use the worst case scenario, the dvx100 is using 9.2w so... 11.52/9.2= 1.25 HOURS so the stock battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of 1.25 HOURS (this could also be the maximum) *********** ************ same forumla for the CGR-54 5.4amps*7.2volts=38.88 watts(fully charged) 38.88/9.2= 4.23 HOURS so the CGR-54 battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of 4.23 HOURS (this could also be the maximum) anyway........ thinking of how i want to power it, and was in battery-mode, thought it might be of interest any ?s just post

July 23rd, 2003, 03:46 PM	#82
Alturo Nguyen Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 52	portable battery for dvx100? or cigarette adapter? besides the one's panasonic makes, i mean for nrg style beltpacks anyone know of a setup?

July 27th, 2003, 11:18 AM	#88
Stefan Susini New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: EDENA Company, GENEVA, SWITZERLAND Posts: 13	Switch on battery ? Hello, there is a switch on the back of the battery 1600 mAh that came with the AG-DVX100, it shows a red dot position when on the left, or nothing when on the right. Nothing about it on the manual. Somebody knows what it means? Stefan

July 21st, 2003, 02:47 PM	#76
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	B&H is now carrying the CGR-D54, they list it as "in stock". I think their price is $169.00. It's functionally the same battery as "shimwass" is offering. Also, the Power2000 3600mah batteries seem to be serving quite well. They're $69.95 at B&H and they seem to last a good long time. I haven't timed them but I'd guess they last at least three hours each.

July 23rd, 2003, 01:46 PM	#80
Alturo Nguyen Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 52	NOTHING is wrong with the battery, so it sounds. false advertising, maybe, but the battery doens't sound bad at all also...i'm sure many know already, but the CGR-D54 is in stock at bh/other places 2800 is better than 2500 if you are using ANY BRAND of 2500mah, the MOST you should ever expect is 2.65hrs, using the viewfinder only. 2.31hrs lcd being used 1.96hrs max consumption you can't really expect or depend on a 2500mah(2.5amps) battery lasting even 2 hours. If it does, great, but no matter who makes the battery, that's how it goes. It sounds like hard core false advertising, but i didn't check it out, just trying to help with electrical, because that seller, if making false statements, is definitely NOT the only place or seller doing so. Not trying to bash anyone, just cheap batteries are fine, and unless they are known to explode or leak, then they are all the same. Don't depend on any place out there, use the forumla, its simple. ********************************************** According to the manual, the dvx100 uses: (this is how many watts the dvx100 drinks up per hour) 6.8w (when viewfinder is used) 7.8w (when lcd is used) 9.2w (max consumption) Here's the simple formula you gotta remember voltsamps=watts The input the dvx100 likes on it's batteries is 7.2v, though it's rated at 7.9v Let's take a couple batteries: stock cgr-d16 and CGR-D54 ************* cgr-d16 is 1600mAH = 1.6amps 1.67.2volts= 11.52watts(fully charged) now you just divide watts by the table up top, lets use the worst case scenario, the dvx100 is using 9.2w so... 11.52/9.2= 1.25 HOURS so the stock battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of 1.25 HOURS (this could also be the maximum) *********** ************ same forumla for the CGR-54 5.4amps*7.2volts=38.88 watts(fully charged) 38.88/9.2= 4.23 HOURS so the CGR-54 battery theoretically should last a MINIMUM of 4.23 HOURS (this could also be the maximum) anyway........ thinking of how i want to power it, and was in battery-mode, thought it might be of interest any ?s just post

July 23rd, 2003, 03:14 PM	#81
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Even the retail panasonic 2800mah will not get 5 hours with the DVX100 !!! it's onyl 5 hours with those small 1CCD camcorders.

July 24th, 2003, 07:40 AM	#83
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	cigarette adapter...BH told me there not out yet...was this not true?

July 24th, 2003, 07:47 AM	#84
Alturo Nguyen Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 52	that's what they say, and nrg says as well, and nrg doesn't plan on making anythign for it anytime soon

July 27th, 2003, 12:16 AM	#85
William Wallick Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 27	5400mAh batteries aren't available in the US yet, but there is a guy selling them on Ebay. I got one and am quite satisfied. WW

July 27th, 2003, 01:37 AM	#86
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Actually, they are now available in the US. B&H lists the CGR-D54 as "in stock" at $169.00.

July 27th, 2003, 09:51 AM	#87
William Wallick Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 27	OK. Yikes! I got mine for $79 WW

July 27th, 2003, 12:31 PM	#89
Winston Cheong New Boot Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremont,CA,USA Posts: 6	Most battery maker have that for the user to identify if a battery is charged. There is no electrical connection on the switch and its up to you to denote if the red dot is for a fully charged battery.

July 27th, 2003, 02:07 PM	#90
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Yeah, I know, mine too -- that $79 deal just rules! I don't know if he has any more though, there aren't any more listed for sale...