Missing 1 file to be uploaded at :
http://hvx200.moctel.com/production/....xtream.ne.jp/

Please let me know if download speed aint that good.. Thanks Marc O.

Apparently the Avid codec will work with Quicktime. I found a link to it on this DVfilm Maker page:

http://www.dvfilm.com/hvx200/

Haven't had a chance to try it myself.

-Dan

Great Dan!

I tried the Avid codecs but they haven't worked so far with the clips downloaded from DVXUser (by Jarred & Barry G). QuickTime just showed a blank white window.

I do have HP workstation so if there's something I can get to make the files directly, I would do that too.

Hmmm... too bad. I got similar results from some Qt files that someone gave me recently from a Mac. There was nothing special about those files and the person who gave them to me could not tell me what codec was used. White screen and sound was all I got even though Qt didn't complain about the file. I'm running Qt 7 Pro.

-Dan

H.264 for HD-DVD seems to take only matte of 20 minutes to transcode.
I'm transcoding one before I go to bed and post it.

Thanks Kaku for your effort.

Would you make some comments on the footage you've shot so far ? Maybe some comparison with the Canon XL H1 ...

Cheers,

it's there now. Hope this works. Probalby with VLC?

AVID's freely available DV100 codec only supports DVCPROHD via MXF files - not thru QT. And it also works with the freely available demo version of DVFilm Maker. The QT files only play audio with a white screen, so that doesn't work. Any chance we could get an MXF file straight off the P2 card uploaded? Pleeeeeeeeease????

So far, it seems the few who have had access the HVX only want to post the MOV files they get after importing to FCP. A raw MXF should be usable/viewable by us PC guys once we download the two necessary components and I'm ready.

Yes, after shooting some more. I'm going to sleep for now, it is 3:26am.

Fair enough.

Thanks Kaku.

Cheers,

Rod

This file is not downloading.. ( HVX200carspassing1080_24p.zip.txt ) The same for you too?

It did for me...

Here's what was in it:

"
Name Static shot of vihcles passing by 24p version
Description It's the static footage with cars passing by horizantally, while the cam is placed on a tripod. I have similar footage with other cams at my site and some here at HDVinfo.net.

This is shot with 1080/24p with defualt preset
QuickTime DVCPRO HD codec
File size:97.8MB ziped

Video by Kaku Ito/CreativeSuite
Special Thanks to Provideo-Station Shinjuku
Filename HVX200carspassing1080_24p.zip
Filesize 97.8 MB

"

I have a hunch people will need the DVCProHD codec to play the clips. In my case it comes with Final Cut Pro. I'd much prefer to see the actual clips before they go through any compression.

Kaku,
I'm wondering what happens with the MetaData on import. I'm wondering if using Flip4Mac's MXF import component would help in any way. Any thoughts on that?

Is that the one that is 608mb. Still will not work anymore

I kept asking how I can bring in the MXF data on windows but not getting any specific answers.

Anyone?

Worked for Me
 

Kaku,

Thanks for doing this for everyone. I just downloaded the HVX200carspassing1080_24p.mov to a Mac DP 2.0. After the download was complete, "Stuff It" unzipped the file and opened FCP 5.0.4 while opening the new file in it. GREAT!!! This was the smoothest HD/HDV file downloading experience I've had to date.

The footage looks nice. IMO, the colors are more rich than the H1. I'm looking forward to editing this in various ways in FCP 5.0.4 and experimenting around with exporting it using sorenson to see how it will do on the web.

I'm hoping that my ease of downloading, and so far editing this footage is a good indication of Panasonics ability to make the entire workflow process for 24p come together using a Mac.

{side note - Kaku, since it's your footage, I will not be posting my exporting experiments anywhere public, but if you are interested, PM me and I'll send you the links. Thanks again. }

Some stills, please? (i'm sad PC user)

Just tried the car passing 1080 24P in AVID Xpress Pro HD v5.2 (PC).
I hear sound but video is just a white screen?

Any ideas ?


thxs, Steve

Same with Liquid 6.1 or DVFilmMaker 2.21. Seems that MOVs are not going to work on PC.

Sorry I can't help. Thanks Kaku for all your work!

Try import into AVID Xpress Pro HD

the 720 60P stuff worked with AVID on PC...

Looks good on first viewing, I'm stuck on a G5 iMac with no external monitor, but considering it's all on auto it's very encouraging.

I'm using my laptop right now with AVID. I need to load these files onto my main video editing PC. The skidking file (720 60P) blacks out when I press play, but the still image returns when stopped. Something weird must be up with the overlay on my junk laptop.

Steve

Download and install the AVID codec pack:
http://www.avid.com/content/7952/AvidCodecsLE101.zip

Download the demo version of DV Film Maker, unzip and run:
http://www.dvfilm.com/hvx200/maker221demo.zip


Drag the MXF file to the DV Film Maker window. Should be able to view and/or convert.

Is your overlay set to play out on a secondary monitor or TV output?

That exactly what i'm seeing here.
At first look, colors seem richer than what i've seen from the H1.

Two great camcorders i guess.

My quick feedback is that it looks great with no visible noise. The motion of 60p is stunning for sure. I tried blowing the image out with color correction in FCP and, sure, I can make it look ugly, but anything reasonable that I'd do to an image looks awesome. This is in contrast to the noise seen in the pre-production Michael Pappas footage. Now I'd like to see how lower light looks with the HVX.

So far, it's hard to see the difference in quality between HVX200 and XL-H1, except the lattitude seems to be greater in the footage shot by Kaku and Barry. On the blown out parts of Kaku's footage, I was surprised to see there is actually more detail in there once you bring down levels. :)

One more observation, on high motion, at least with 1080i capture, it looks like the HVX200 is the winner.

Here's a single frame interpolated from a single field from the HVX200:

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/hvx20...Interlaced.jpg

Here's a single frame interpolated from a single field from the XL-H1:

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/hvx20...Interlaced.jpg

However, I would argue that 24F or 30F mode would probably yield superior results than the interlaced mode on the XL-H1.

Moving MXF files for download
 

Hi Kaku,

Try this. On the mac, go to your finder and navigate to the P2 card, be it in your computer or in the camera that is mounted to look like a hard drive. Take the folder CONTENTS and move the entire thing over to a download area. If that is just too much data, navigate and delete some of clips. The video clips are the biggest, and then be sure to remove the ICONs and audio for those same clips.

Then folks that have systems that can support the MXF should be able to import just as if it were a P2 card once the folder is downloaded.

Best,

Jan

In my comparisons, the XLH is pushing way more pixels.

BUT, the XLH is WAY more compressed, and it shows easily, especially on a proper HD monitor. This sounds like a cop-out, but I think they BOTH look very good in their own ways.

In fact, of the 4 cameras currently available, there's only one that I think comes up a bit short.

and that would be?

Which one is that Nate? Just curious!

hey, jeff... you need avid xpress to use your method, right?

Actually I don't think it's a cop-out. I think it's very reasonable and accurate to say. The most positive spin is that we have amazing tools available now. The negative spin is that for many, the decision on which *one* to purchase or workflow to buy into generates the argument of which is *better*.

I have tremendous respect and lust for the XL-H1. But now it's really time to welcome the HVX200!

All of Kaku's footage looks amazing downres'd to SD on a broadcast monitor. Anyone out there viewing this material out of a Kona/Blackmagic card into an HDTV?

Note Added: Also worth mentioning, FCP is downconverting DVCPRO HD in a DV25 timeline and streaming out via Firewire in real time with a few filters on it, effortlessly on a Quad G5.

Not entirely true; you can use the Avid codec within Vegas or Premiere Pro and use it to make quicktime files.

But it won't work with a quicktime file that's been created on a Mac. Don't know why, but that's the problem. If I render a QT from the PC/Vegas using the Avid codec it shows up fine. If I download Mac-originated DV100 quicktime files, all I get is the white screen.

I've heard it works within Avid though -- apparently Avid Express Pro HD users can view the Mac-originated DV100 Quicktime files.

Jeff's posted method (DVFilm Maker & the Avid codec pack) will let PC users get access to the raw .MXF files and convert them to Quicktime .MOVs. Or, alternatively, DVFilm Maker can output other types of files; if you had CineForm on your system you could output a CineForm .AVI, etc.

Jan being that the camera is shipping already, how about a pdf file with the user manual. It will help us get more familiar with the camera until we receive shipment. Thanks.

Starts with S, ends in Y.

I am, to a Sony broadcast HD monitor. It looks a hair sharper than my HD100, but is very close in 720. In 1080 it's not as sharp as XLH, but still very nice. This is ignoring lots of other factors, like latitude and lens behavior.

I think the great victory of the HVX will be how EASY it will be to get great looking HD...unlike the JVC which takes a lot of knowledge and practice. The ease getting good looking stuff, plus the simplicity of post will make it the choice, I think.